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No. I refuse his argument precisely because it's not based on logic, historical knowledge or factual evidence, but things and concept out of his ass and a complete invisibilization of the actual reason why the subject is important in the first place.
In other words, this holds no more value than people rewriting history trying to explain how alien helped the human specie develop in the first place. It's scientific nonsense.
And if you think this holds value, there is a problem.
Sigh.
Yes I want to know if you consider this theory correct. Yes or no. And in any case, why?
There is more to his rethoric to explain why the guy is a white supremacist. DEI is one of them.
Racism is a domination system. It's much more complex than just "someone who hates other races"
Kindly. Read a bit of social and human sciences about domination system (or go check some vulgarization videos about it idc) and come back to me when you understand the subject. This guy was racist, it's factual. Just as it is factual that denying systemic racism is a white supremacist behavior that many (even the most progressive) people on the right share.
Yes he did.
And being friend with marginalized doesn magically stop you being an oppressor toward them.
Actually Trump would be Hitler here, Vance is too dumb to be goabbels and the Antifa are not the avangers, they would rather be James Gunn's Superman.
The Avengers would be the governements that do not involve themselve in political struggle such as fighting oppression.
You have a lot to learn about sociology.
Treating everyone equally means that people are being leaving as equal in the first place. But since you do not know about social sciences, you do not know that people are actually not Leaving as equal in the first place
SO treating equally everyone in your world just ends up treating advantaged people with more advantages than others.
This is why rich people get richer and poor people get poorer. Learn and educate yourself Captain America
Not directly no.
But it becomes a racist belief system in a system where white supremacy and whiteness are the norm. And those things are the norm in western countries.
The reason is simple : when black people are already systematically oppressed, meritocracy becomes a tool to justify their place and status in society.
"My friend was gay therefore I can't be homophobic" BS rethoric
THere is a lot of work around that question in sociology, you should check it. But briefly, it's a self-justification behavior. "I'm friend with them therefore I can't be oppressing them' not realizing that the friend they have have been silented and completely whitewashed to the point of advocating against their own interest.
That's what I was talking about when I quoted Frantz Fanon to Monster the other day.
It's called whiteness. It's a system of domination that pushes racialized people to adopt white supremacy rethorics to be assimilated in the white supremacist society.
THe guy was a fascist white supremacist and a genocide apologist. Keep defending him and I will see you the same way my guy.
In other words, this holds no more value than people rewriting history trying to explain how alien helped the human specie develop in the first place. It's scientific nonsense.
And if you think this holds value, there is a problem.
Sigh.
Yes I want to know if you consider this theory correct. Yes or no. And in any case, why?
There is more to his rethoric to explain why the guy is a white supremacist. DEI is one of them.
Racism is a domination system. It's much more complex than just "someone who hates other races"
Kindly. Read a bit of social and human sciences about domination system (or go check some vulgarization videos about it idc) and come back to me when you understand the subject. This guy was racist, it's factual. Just as it is factual that denying systemic racism is a white supremacist behavior that many (even the most progressive) people on the right share.
Yes he did.
And being friend with marginalized doesn magically stop you being an oppressor toward them.
Trump is Darth Vader, Vance is Hitler, Kirk is Goebbels, and the ANTIFA is The Avengers
The Avengers would be the governements that do not involve themselve in political struggle such as fighting oppression.
You have a lot to learn about sociology.
Treating everyone equally means that people are being leaving as equal in the first place. But since you do not know about social sciences, you do not know that people are actually not Leaving as equal in the first place
SO treating equally everyone in your world just ends up treating advantaged people with more advantages than others.
This is why rich people get richer and poor people get poorer. Learn and educate yourself Captain America
Not directly no.
But it becomes a racist belief system in a system where white supremacy and whiteness are the norm. And those things are the norm in western countries.
The reason is simple : when black people are already systematically oppressed, meritocracy becomes a tool to justify their place and status in society.
"My friend was gay therefore I can't be homophobic" BS rethoric
It's funny Libshits use this argument but it is logically sound, why would you befriend black people if you hate them?
That's what I was talking about when I quoted Frantz Fanon to Monster the other day.
It's called whiteness. It's a system of domination that pushes racialized people to adopt white supremacy rethorics to be assimilated in the white supremacist society.
THe guy was a fascist white supremacist and a genocide apologist. Keep defending him and I will see you the same way my guy.
Define white supremacy and why being against DEI entails it.
I can see why you're interested in calling racism is a system, because this allows you to in a top-down fashion condemn millions of ordinary people inside this system (whether they have a choice or not)
Me defining racism is a specific way limits your ability to weaponized this term against those you disagree with
Prove it
Except he didn't merely say gays are his friends, he said Conservative should embrace gays into the movement
Pretty much yeah
Friendship requires good will and altruism, if you are trying to oppress someone are they actually your friend?
Kinda why this leftist canard when you show so called racists and homophobes engaging in contradictory behavior doesn't work.
He did run apologetics for genocide. He was not a fascist (you cannot be race blind meritocratic and fascist) or white supremecist (he promoted non whites moving to America)
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Friendship is something in the will, if you outwardly are friends but deep down hate them then they aren't actually your friend
I love how your second point in this reply is also just "Or you could be lying" AKA "I'm not racist, I don't have any black friends". Lol
I can see why you're interested in calling racism is a system, because this allows you to in a top-down fashion condemn millions of ordinary people inside this system (whether they have a choice or not)
Me defining racism is a specific way limits your ability to weaponized this term against those you disagree with
Prove it
Except he didn't merely say gays are his friends, he said Conservative should embrace gays into the movement
Pretty much yeah
Friendship requires good will and altruism, if you are trying to oppress someone are they actually your friend?
Kinda why this leftist canard when you show so called racists and homophobes engaging in contradictory behavior doesn't work.
He did run apologetics for genocide. He was not a fascist (you cannot be race blind meritocratic and fascist) or white supremecist (he promoted non whites moving to America)
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Friendship is something in the will, if you outwardly are friends but deep down hate them then they aren't actually your friend
I love how your second point in this reply is also just "Or you could be lying" AKA "I'm not racist, I don't have any black friends". Lol
US should have made universities free like funded by state instead of making race quotas. Maybe then people wouldn’t think it’s unfair to the white dudes. But I don’t know.
You’re over simplifying it and ignoring the characteristics and complexities of these races in specific fields and how they are treated by the race that holds power.
It’s not racism indeed but it’s pseudoscience
You’re over simplifying it and ignoring the characteristics and complexities of these races in specific fields and how they are treated by the race that holds power.
It’s not racism indeed but it’s pseudoscience
It's not racism.
Now that is different from saying meritocracy is not racial, it is racial because it will highlight differences in performance between races because equality is a myth.
However there are systems that are racist fundamentally, meritocracy is race-blind.
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Your point seems to be that Kirk disliked or hated black people including Rob Smith
I'm going to need statements that he was anti-black and hated them, not just your fucking feelings lol
Now that is different from saying meritocracy is not racial, it is racial because it will highlight differences in performance between races because equality is a myth.
However there are systems that are racist fundamentally, meritocracy is race-blind.
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Your point seems to be that Kirk disliked or hated black people including Rob Smith
I'm going to need statements that he was anti-black and hated them, not just your fucking feelings lol
Let's be honest. The only reason why I fight against people is VERY simple:
- Most people here are idealistic (as in opposition to historical materialists)
> Which prevents them from understanding or accepting the 90% of what I'm actually saying (except for Blax who, for some reasons, shortcircuited radical leftism with religion without even being materialist)
- Most people here consider social sciences as legit sciences
> Which prevents people from accepting what I say as basic factual rethoric.
White supremacy is a domination system that derives from systemic racism and capitalism that considers that white people are in everyway superior to racialized groups of population.
White supremacy creates a system called "whiteness", which is a non verbal social contract that will basically say that no matter the social class under capitalism, a non racialized person will have a superior social status than a racialized one. Which in return pushes racialized people to seek the acceptations on society (for ex, Fanon explains how subjegated people under colonization where systematically pushed to adopt the colonist mindset to be assimilated by the metropole and extract themselves from the oppression of colonist and imperialism as a whole.
BEing against DEI means refusing the factual observation that white supremacy and therefore systemic racism are the social backbone of western society. It's an invisibilization of a domination system and by consequences a perpetuation of oppression as... if we treat oppressed and non oppressed people the same way, people who don't live oppression will ALWAYS be favorized by the system.
DEI is meant to return equity. Badly in the case of america, but it's still a necessity.
It's no "me". It's a scientific affirmation based on two centuries of observation and researches.
Your vision of racism is idealist. This means that Racism is just a result of bad behavior. But that's not how social structure work in reality. My approach in materialist. It takes systems of domination into account.
I don't have to. His words are public, you have to search for them. It's you who has to prove that he was a good guy, not the other way around.
His rethoric is racist, sexist, homophobic, and he cheered for a genocide. So the guy was a fascist.
Yeah. WHile explaining that the bible says that gay should be stoned to death. Fuck him.
Friendship requieres the knowledge of the oppression that your friends are facing. In the case of gay people it's heteronormativity and patriarchy, in the case of brown people it's systemic racism.
This guy (and you) have no knowledge about this and are defending racist point of view, therefore no matter how many black or gay friends you have or him, you are still participating in their oppression.
HE was not race blind, he was a white supremacist. And fascism is a spectrum it's not 1 or 0, and this guy was a fascist. Stop defending this piece of turd.
Yes it is. Indirectly and sometimes directly.
But to understand - AGAIN - you need to look at how social sciences picture meritocracy and domination systems such as racism
- Most people here are idealistic (as in opposition to historical materialists)
> Which prevents them from understanding or accepting the 90% of what I'm actually saying (except for Blax who, for some reasons, shortcircuited radical leftism with religion without even being materialist)
- Most people here consider social sciences as legit sciences
> Which prevents people from accepting what I say as basic factual rethoric.
White supremacy is a domination system that derives from systemic racism and capitalism that considers that white people are in everyway superior to racialized groups of population.
White supremacy creates a system called "whiteness", which is a non verbal social contract that will basically say that no matter the social class under capitalism, a non racialized person will have a superior social status than a racialized one. Which in return pushes racialized people to seek the acceptations on society (for ex, Fanon explains how subjegated people under colonization where systematically pushed to adopt the colonist mindset to be assimilated by the metropole and extract themselves from the oppression of colonist and imperialism as a whole.
BEing against DEI means refusing the factual observation that white supremacy and therefore systemic racism are the social backbone of western society. It's an invisibilization of a domination system and by consequences a perpetuation of oppression as... if we treat oppressed and non oppressed people the same way, people who don't live oppression will ALWAYS be favorized by the system.
DEI is meant to return equity. Badly in the case of america, but it's still a necessity.
It's no "me". It's a scientific affirmation based on two centuries of observation and researches.
Your vision of racism is idealist. This means that Racism is just a result of bad behavior. But that's not how social structure work in reality. My approach in materialist. It takes systems of domination into account.
I don't have to. His words are public, you have to search for them. It's you who has to prove that he was a good guy, not the other way around.
His rethoric is racist, sexist, homophobic, and he cheered for a genocide. So the guy was a fascist.
Yeah. WHile explaining that the bible says that gay should be stoned to death. Fuck him.
Friendship requieres the knowledge of the oppression that your friends are facing. In the case of gay people it's heteronormativity and patriarchy, in the case of brown people it's systemic racism.
This guy (and you) have no knowledge about this and are defending racist point of view, therefore no matter how many black or gay friends you have or him, you are still participating in their oppression.
HE was not race blind, he was a white supremacist. And fascism is a spectrum it's not 1 or 0, and this guy was a fascist. Stop defending this piece of turd.
Yes it is. Indirectly and sometimes directly.
But to understand - AGAIN - you need to look at how social sciences picture meritocracy and domination systems such as racism
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RyoQ erasing all memories of Charlie Kirk being a horrible bigot from his mind (he has to push an agenda that all right wingers who say horrible things are just taken out of context):
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Also, legal slavery was long since abolished in the 40s you clown, how the fuck is saying they had it better in the 40s meant Kirk said they should be slaves again you idiots LOL
