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There is something that really BOTHERS me : People talk about right/left debate in function of the people composing the sides.
It creates the idea that the right and the left are just interchangeable ideas. Relative thinking on the marketplace of ideas. The idea that we can pick and choose what is good or bad as "there is good on both side" (Someone told me that IRL just a few days ago).
This fake relativity between both sides is always a major trap. because it promotes the idea that we exist outside of the political spectrum and that we have the mental fortuitude to choose the best side without any forms of biases.
> This is the reason why every centrist who don't care to question their political spectrum are doomed to end up reactionnaries.
The reality is that the concept of "left" and "right" is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The political spectrum has never been a horseshoe with two relative sides and a form of moderate center.
This is what the political spectrum has always been and will ALWAYS look like:
You need to see "Indiana Jones and the last cruisade" to understand this.
In reality : there is only ONE side that can help us > Materialism. Idealism will inevitably send you toward our common end. Historically, only the left has been Materialist enough to create positive change and the right is characterized by this constant seeking of more idealist thinking. (note: Being a materialist is not an absolute necessity, you can be an idealist ally of materialist, Blax is a good exemple, but this must be taken with care as idealism will create reactionnary biases, inevitably)
"Rich people deserve more" > Idealism
"I can't surpass my condition on my own" > Idealism
"We can't allow people in our border because they represent a danger" > Idealism
"Freedom means freemarket" > Idealism
"Freedom means propriety" > Idealism
At every idealist end, you will find a materialist. Someone that will explain that the mind? > Not a magical box > We are part of a social and complex itnerconnected architecture of systems > Our condition create who we are, who we become > Change your conditions, change yourself.
I will continu to talk about rightism and leftism, but I consider this as a complete nonsense.
There is not a right side and a left side.
There is a side that has the tool to change society for the better and a side that has the potential to sink it.
It creates the idea that the right and the left are just interchangeable ideas. Relative thinking on the marketplace of ideas. The idea that we can pick and choose what is good or bad as "there is good on both side" (Someone told me that IRL just a few days ago).
This fake relativity between both sides is always a major trap. because it promotes the idea that we exist outside of the political spectrum and that we have the mental fortuitude to choose the best side without any forms of biases.
> This is the reason why every centrist who don't care to question their political spectrum are doomed to end up reactionnaries.
The reality is that the concept of "left" and "right" is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The political spectrum has never been a horseshoe with two relative sides and a form of moderate center.
This is what the political spectrum has always been and will ALWAYS look like:
You need to see "Indiana Jones and the last cruisade" to understand this.
In reality : there is only ONE side that can help us > Materialism. Idealism will inevitably send you toward our common end. Historically, only the left has been Materialist enough to create positive change and the right is characterized by this constant seeking of more idealist thinking. (note: Being a materialist is not an absolute necessity, you can be an idealist ally of materialist, Blax is a good exemple, but this must be taken with care as idealism will create reactionnary biases, inevitably)
"Rich people deserve more" > Idealism
"I can't surpass my condition on my own" > Idealism
"We can't allow people in our border because they represent a danger" > Idealism
"Freedom means freemarket" > Idealism
"Freedom means propriety" > Idealism
At every idealist end, you will find a materialist. Someone that will explain that the mind? > Not a magical box > We are part of a social and complex itnerconnected architecture of systems > Our condition create who we are, who we become > Change your conditions, change yourself.
I will continu to talk about rightism and leftism, but I consider this as a complete nonsense.
There is not a right side and a left side.
There is a side that has the tool to change society for the better and a side that has the potential to sink it.
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Just whisper "Nietzsche" in his ear and you'll see 
What norwood even are you ?
What norwood even are you ?
Great opportunity to share a quote I just heard:
"What's reality? I don't know. When my bird was looking at my computer monitor, I thought, "that bird has no idea what he's looking at." And yet, what does the bird do? Does he panic? No, he can't really panic, he just does the best he can.
Is he able to live in a world where he's so ignorant? Well, he doesn't have a choice. The bird is okay even if he doesn't understand the world.
You're that bird looking at a monitor, and you're thinking to yourself, I can figure this out. Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that's the best you can do."
What did Nietzsche even know about anything, plenty of people here probably achieved a lot more than he did, I think the more I learn, the stupider philosophy looks.
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And I did try to read philosophy from different people, for example The Christian System, made by an important philosopher whose name I don't remember, he was a pessimist I think, was garbage tier and I kept correcting it in the claims it made.
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The Marx comic I shared about him going to an island is from a website named Existential Comics
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Oh yeah Arthur Scopenhauer wrote The Christian System, in 1851.
This guy was sitting there making stuff up, meanwhile John Brown was liberating slaves.
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Maybe this quote also fits:
"An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity, a physicist tries to make it simple,
for an idiot anything the more complicated it is the more he will admire it, if you make something so messy he can't understand it he's gonna think you're a god cause you made it so complicated nobody can understand it.
That's how they write journals in Academics, they try to make it so complicated people think you're a genius."
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You can judge whether I am arrogant or not, but if I made up some lies about Nietzsche, and you debunked them, is that you being arrogant?
If you want to we can go through it and see it just makes things up and lies.
I don't think the quote was anti-intelectualist though since it gives the example of a physicist as doing that correctly.
If you want to we can go through it and see it just makes things up and lies.
I don't think the quote was anti-intelectualist though since it gives the example of a physicist as doing that correctly.
Well the Bible is anti-slavery and I made a post proving that:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...f-that-the-bible-is-anti-slavery.72245/unread
There was one question that I don't know yet how to answer, but I think the evidence given is good
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And I mean I don't know why you mentioned polygamy, Solomon was polygamous for some time and the Bible showed how it messed him up badly and it was bad
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https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...f-that-the-bible-is-anti-slavery.72245/unread
There was one question that I don't know yet how to answer, but I think the evidence given is good
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And I mean I don't know why you mentioned polygamy, Solomon was polygamous for some time and the Bible showed how it messed him up badly and it was bad
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Cry about it. 0 arguments
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Claim everything you disagree with is not supported by science and scientists. See the scientists explaining why the science is against your believes. Proceeds to keep disagreeing with it anyway.
Fantastic Logiko.
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Claim everything you disagree with is not supported by science and scientists. See the scientists explaining why the science is against your believes. Proceeds to keep disagreeing with it anyway.
Fantastic Logiko.
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Acts 20:26-32
"26Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. 27For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. "
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I don't know why you mention specifically jewish christians though, I don't think that would be popular there, and there are cults that call themselves christian and do that garbage
"26Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. 27For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. 32And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. "
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I don't know why you mention specifically jewish christians though, I don't think that would be popular there, and there are cults that call themselves christian and do that garbage
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Another day, another person claiming Hitler was leftist because he led the Nazi Socialist Party.
1- Their actions wasn't socialism
2- Their goals didnt align with socialism
3- A few of Hitler's most prevalent rhetorics was that capitalism was under attack by Jews and communist
4- Hitler himself said he turned socialism into a devotion to your country in order to manipulate the masses
1- Their actions wasn't socialism
2- Their goals didnt align with socialism
3- A few of Hitler's most prevalent rhetorics was that capitalism was under attack by Jews and communist
4- Hitler himself said he turned socialism into a devotion to your country in order to manipulate the masses
They also had anti-marxist and anti-antifa rants
Like @RyoQ @NAMELESS if you may not know this, I didn't know it either, antifa just means anti-fascist, and you can look into the history of the fights between antifa and Hitler's supporters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
"Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn], lit. 'Anti-fascist Action') was a communist militant organisation in the Weimar Republic, founded and controlled by the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).[1][2] Antifaschistische Aktion opposed anti-Nazi resistance efforts by moderate parties, such as the Eiserne Front, which included the Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold and others,[3] and pro-Nazi paramilitary forces, like the Sturmabteilung (SA).[4] The group strongly opposed the Social Democratic Party of Germany and sought to establish a council republic in Germany. "
Like @RyoQ @NAMELESS if you may not know this, I didn't know it either, antifa just means anti-fascist, and you can look into the history of the fights between antifa and Hitler's supporters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
"Antifaschistische Aktion (German: [ˌantifaˈʃɪstɪʃə ʔakˈtsi̯oːn], lit. 'Anti-fascist Action') was a communist militant organisation in the Weimar Republic, founded and controlled by the Communist Party of Germany (KPD).[1][2] Antifaschistische Aktion opposed anti-Nazi resistance efforts by moderate parties, such as the Eiserne Front, which included the Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold and others,[3] and pro-Nazi paramilitary forces, like the Sturmabteilung (SA).[4] The group strongly opposed the Social Democratic Party of Germany and sought to establish a council republic in Germany. "
Yes, I know what antifa stands for. I also know they are violent, mostly went away after 2020 (they were not even present during J6) and will be pretty much a phenomenon of the 2010s once Trump labels them a terrorist organization and closes their casket
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There's nothing to outlaw either since they're not an organization