Controversial General Religion Thread

[BoaHancocksHusband]

I don't understand your point.
Also the tags didn't work

Mahomets Gesang" (Mahomet's Song) is a poem written by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe in 1772–1773, published in 1774, which serves as a hymn of praise to the Prophet Muhammad, depicting him as a powerful, life-giving river. It was originally intended for a drama about the Prophet that was never completed.
P.S. same guy that wrote Tragedy of Dr. Faust aka the OG sell your soul to the devil story.
by Goethe aka peak European literature:

 

[Blax Blah]

" Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, and good will toward men.” No glory to God, no peace. Got it? Does higher education give the glory to God? Does the news media? Do the doctors and lawyers? Do you? God gave America up to sex perverts (literally: see Rom. 1:26–27) because Americans did not give Him glory (literally: see Rom. 1:21). No glory to God, no peace. "

 

[Blax Blah]

What we have here are two words that pop up which, when applied to what the Koran teaches and Moslems believe, don’t really mean anything. The first of these words is “Islam,” which doesn’t mean anything because it can only be applied to a single nation. There is no such thing as “THE Islamic Nation.” There are more than two dozen. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”) is applied to a dead sinner who never got out of the grave. You are to obey him.



Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80).

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Peter S. Ruckman (Why I Am Not A Moslem)

 

[Blax Blah]

What modern Christians don’t seem to get is that God’s love is found in one person: Jesus Christ (Rom. 8:39); it is found in one place: at Calvary (Rom. 5:8). Just because God is good, merciful, and longsuffering to a sinner doesn’t mean He loves him enough to keep him out of Hell if that sinner rejects the payment God requires for that sinner’s sins.




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For example, the Book accurately predicts forty-eight details of a man’s life before He is born, and some of the predictions are given 1,000 years before He is born. All come to pass literally as prophesied. The chances (mathematically) of this happening—according to Heisenberg’s “uncertainty principle” and Einstein’s mathematics—is one out of ten to the 157th power. There are not that many electrons in the known Universe.

 

[AL sama]

I don't understand your point.
Also the tags didn't work

it's good that the tags didn't work

I have told him multiple times not to tag me for preaching

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

What we have here are two words that pop up which, when applied to what the Koran teaches and Moslems believe, don’t really mean anything. The first of these words is “Islam,” which doesn’t mean anything because it can only be applied to a single nation. There is no such thing as “THE Islamic Nation.” There are more than two dozen. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”) is applied to a dead sinner who never got out of the grave. You are to obey him.



Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80).

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Peter S. Ruckman (Why I Am Not A Moslem)

Zombies aren’t real.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

What we have here are two words that pop up which, when applied to what the Koran teaches and Moslems believe, don’t really mean anything. The first of these words is “Islam,” which doesn’t mean anything because it can only be applied to a single nation. There is no such thing as “THE Islamic Nation.” There are more than two dozen. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”) is applied to a dead sinner who never got out of the grave. You are to obey him.



Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80).

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Peter S. Ruckman (Why I Am Not A Moslem)

So according to random polemical work Islam ☪️ means nothing. What does this prove? What’s the meaning of Christianity in this case? There are over 100 Christian nations.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

What we have here are two words that pop up which, when applied to what the Koran teaches and Moslems believe, don’t really mean anything. The first of these words is “Islam,” which doesn’t mean anything because it can only be applied to a single nation. There is no such thing as “THE Islamic Nation.” There are more than two dozen. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”) is applied to a dead sinner who never got out of the grave. You are to obey him.



Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80).

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Peter S. Ruckman (Why I Am Not A Moslem)

Modern day Christian thought stems from Roman paganism as it is against a natural theology or self realized truth innate within humanity or the fitrah of humanity to believe 1=3.

 

[AL sama]

So according to random polemical work Islam ☪️ means nothing. What does this prove? What’s the meaning of Christianity in this case? There are over 100 Christian nations.

Modern day Christian thought stems from Roman paganism as it is against a natural theology or self realized truth innate within humanity or the fitrah of humanity to believe 1=3.

be respectful

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

be respectful

“ Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80”

 

[AL sama]

“ Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80”

I couldn't care any less

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Biased

 

[Monkey D Theories]

. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”)

you’re contradicting yourself here

Islam advocates submitting yourself to the will of God. A lot of Islamic practices are based on Jewish practices that Jesus himself probably would have followed.

Like in the gospels, I don’t believe Jesus ever denied the authority of the Torah or the mitzvah. He would have probably kept kosher and halal is quite similar to that.

Orthodox Jewish women cover their hair in a similar manner to Muslims with the hijab. This practice is thousands of years old and Mary and other women in the Christian Bible would have likely done it.

 

[Midnight Delight]

. A lot of Islamic practices are based on Jewish practices that Jesus himself probably would have followed.

*Eastern Christian

 

[Midnight Delight]

Also @Monkey D Theories

This Sheikh is the guy who made that Krishna Poetry

 

[AL sama]

What we have here are two words that pop up which, when applied to what the Koran teaches and Moslems believe, don’t really mean anything. The first of these words is “Islam,” which doesn’t mean anything because it can only be applied to a single nation. There is no such thing as “THE Islamic Nation.” There are more than two dozen. “Islam,” in itself, means nothing, because the word itself (meaning “submission” or “obedience”) is applied to a dead sinner who never got out of the grave. You are to obey him.



Then up pops a dead man, a fornicating killer who practiced polygamy and slavery, and he tells you that if you obey him you are obeying Allah! “Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah. And whoever turns away, We have not sent thee as a keeper over them” (Sura 4:80).

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Peter S. Ruckman (Why I Am Not A Moslem)

I told you to keep your beliefs to yourself and not to undermine others

 

[Monkey D Theories]

*Eastern Christian

was eastern Christianity closer to Judaism during the time of Muhammad?

 

[Midnight Delight]

was eastern Christianity closer to Judaism during the time of Muhammad?

I am talking about the fasting during Ramadan and Prayer Prostration

Early Muslims also used Jacobite Arguements when arguing against Orthodox and Catholic Christians

 

[Apollo]

It's an idea that existed in Neo Platonism and many Early Islamic Philosophy, and Theologically we believe every soul was created during creation

The population of the earth rising doesn't really affect this belief because of weird Beliefs about

Spoiler

Jinns and Aliens

that only Sheikhs know the full details about




Someone else

Interesting, I thought the explanation would be that a soul doesn't immediately reincarnate and might have a time where its out.

Since you asked @Apollo

Spoiler

do Twelvers still symbolise Ali with Saturn?

I'm not Shia but some Sunni made a video once to argue that Shia believe in astrology and mentioned a hadith that associated Ali with Saturn. I don't think its mainstream.

Btw Jesus resurrecting is the only valid explanation for the events that happened

And there were 48 prophecies about Jesus' life, made hundreds of years before he was born, that all came true

Okay, but what does that have to do with my post?

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

was eastern Christianity closer to Judaism during the time of Muhammad?

I saw Orthodoz Christian’s praying for the first time. It’s almost like Muslims I was shook. They prostrate to the ground multiple times.