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Mashiro Blue

𝓦𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝓾𝓹𝓸𝓷 𝓪 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓻 ✰
Whoever has Krul Tepes or Shalltear Bloodfallen come forward.

It would leave a bad taste in my mouth to acidentally kill those goated Vampires girls

 
He was acting biased and wasn’t willing to consider my PoV.
This is not true. In fact I asked you to explain your thoughts to see your POV and you belligerently wouldn’t give it to me. That was the crux of the problem and when I put my vote on you more than what you even said about Pero to begin with.

However I don’t appreciate Ekko voting for me based on literally no reasons which is probably why I ignored him. :/
Why would that make you ignore reading him lol?

You just showed up and left a vote on someone I town read.
You were suggesting to lynch me earlier lol. You put me as a lynch candidate but are still using Mitch voting me as a reason to scum read him even though your read on me doesn’t seem to be Town anymore. It’s weird that would still be a reason to sus him:
we lynching MitchMatch or doc today.
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I will keep my eye on you.
doc didn't seem to think it was a joke.
Funny enough he at first went along with the joke


But later when people started pushing him he acted like I was trying to save Tac
I did take it as just a joke to start, and a welcome one too bc I like the playful banter with Mitch. I still think it was a joke (the voting me end) but once TAC started to ping me wrong and I looked at it again the part about moving it away from TAC ping’d me. I saw it as possibly using a seemingly harmless joke to maybe get us off of TAC in hindsight.
Since this is Multiball, too, him being scum makes even less sense.
Acc to that Tucker post, yeah.
^ this ping’d me since it didn’t actually say anything to do with mutli ball. It probably is mutli ball bc Fuji made several comments about Gram’s 8 man GoT team being too big but still you didn’t defend it with something like that.
You are honestly thinking that’s my read on you? It started as a joke.
You didn’t defend it like it was a joke when asked about it lol. And you even doubled down on him rolling scum in past games being a good reason.
I wasnt even aware of profs interaction with her and I dont follow other players logic or reasoning when it comes to placing my vote

@Doddsy will attest

Btw, your white knighting is weak
If you didn’t base thins on my/Kagura’s interaction initially, can you point to the posts of Kagura’s that caused your initial read?

I feel like Prof didn’t wait for Pero to even come and talk to me and thought I was diverting attention from Mitch.
So I take it that you agree with Prof’s allegations towards me that I was trying to misdirect attention from Mitch to Pero?
If you go back and look at our interaction I listed 3 different scenarios for what you could have been doing. I find it odd that you keep honing in on the one angle that it was to misdirect attention from Mitch at the exclusion of the others.

Even more so when I made it clear it could be Pero distancing, then Pero comes in here, scum reads you, and then pulls back quite quickly and defends you saying to let you prove yourself.

After your interaction with Pero/some others I was beginning to pull back on you, and I still am some, but I see some equity with you and Pero here based on things you’re both doing that I wanted documented lol. (But some of your posts toward Pero look a lot less like teammates than his posts geared toward/about you).
I was scum two games ago.
I rekt town too hard and made melkor look silly.
the next game I got killed by melkor as soon as kills became available.
I was low efforting it cuz it was an Ariess game and everyone has a kill.
I was scum there and so was melkor. ( scum vs scum )
This didn’t really explain why you’d be more self conscious about how you’re perceived this game.
On the topic of the indies I'm gonna go with the tried and true way
If they help us we can keep em, if not we can cook them, maybe they self resolve on the way
Blue and Ratchet don't seem the type to lie about being an indie anyway so I'm fine with them for now
You seem to have forgot GoT pretty quickly lol, where he effectively fake claimed indie. I’d expect you of all people to have a little PTSD over that whole thing so it kind of surprises me it didn’t seem to cross your mind.
Ah yea town gonna blindly trust u and scums will let u go that easy 🤣 this is really why I have an issue

Anyway I am not gonna continue in this subject bc it is time wasting, I trust ppl with certain abilities to do sth about it
Your whole thing with Ratchet is conflicting and inconsistent from calling him a possible jester (who would want to get lynched) to thinking trusting him will be Town’s downfall lol.
 

Alright now that I am caught up, time to throw my few cents around.

I am quite frankly not happy with the amount of indies claims going around, personally don't see the point of it and feels like players are going out of their own way to try and prove a point here. Being an indie in my world means you stay hidden, play solo, and try to win. But to come out and out yourself and expect townie cooperation is mind boggling. You are going against what being indie means in those games. If you wanted to cooperate that badly with townie, then do that when you are townie lol.

Either way, I don't mind cooperating with ratchet chan right now. He is the only one out of the 3 indie claims I am willing to work with here for the time being. (Totally not because he hinted at a vergil role)

Now moving forward with the reads in this game. Let's start with the hot topic of every game, DrProf.

He is by far my strongest town read and I will be shocked if he flips anything other than townie here, his game early on reminds me of a game I played with him before. Dude was tunneling himself into oblivion and he tends to have the knack to do that.

Kag, I honestly was getting some suss vibes from her. I felt that she was very self conscious. But some of her posts, especially later on felt truly genuine. Not enough to put her in my town lean just yet, but enough to move her to my null list for now.

Nana, the fact that me and her were in similar wavelength regarding flower earns few townie points her way. But didn't really see anything else from her per say. Interested in her opinion regarding other players. Null to slight town lean.

Reborn, I been keeping a close eye on the guy. He did not post a single fluff post if memory serves me right, all the posts he made were direct and attempting to game solve. Now how genuine that game solving is, is yet to be seen, since I am not sure what to make of it yet, can't get a vibe check on him either. Have him as null for now.

Adam, me and him seem to be in similar wavelength regarding some stuff which is a good think, his posts come out as genuine, I wouldn't worry about him until later on in the game. As of right now, town lean.

Ultra, null I generally like to think I can read Ultra pretty well and while his early phase he was pinging me weird, he def improved but still not enough to hit that town lean just yet. I am usually very confident when I town read Ultra and hopefully he is indeed town.

Ekko, did not like him entertaining the thought of ratchet killing people early on during the day, and his vibe is slightly off this game, can't put my fingers on it yet. But I don't mind him getting lynched actually this DP. Scum lean.

T-Pein, dude is sus, trying to bait players into joining the town core, sussing players for discussing what is going on in the game regarding, and feels self aware at times which gives me sus vibes. Scum lean and don't mind seeing him lynched this DP either.

Flowa, i really disliked how dismissive about the entire discussing going on regarding indies, the game barely started and she wanted to shut down discussions from the get go. Did not post any reads or any scum hunting mentality, and brushed off alot of things, and apparently she visited Ultra too, and seem to be focused only on the people who voted her. Until I see something from her that gives me some townie feel, I don't think my vote is moving off of her unless someone pings me more sus than her. If she really is town, I really hope she proves it instead of just playing around.

JoyGirl, I seen some posts of her, she discussed the indie thing, then made some few more posts. Nothing really stood out to me cause I barely remember any of them. Null

Lord Melkor, I think he might actually be townie this game tbh. I liked that T-pein push, felt like he is independent in his push and making his own thoughts and judgement.

Pero, my boy pero has to be townie, his heart is green like mine afterall.

Don't mind pressuring any of the players below:

TAC, giving me his scum meta vibe

Ripped, giving me weird vibes, null.

Yo Tan, his game is very different than when I was townie with him. Like completely different and it's giving me an unsettling feeling. I like working with him so I hope he is townie but this so far does not look good on him, null to scum lean.

Pot, he is being inactive and not his usual active townie style I seen from him before, null to scum lean.

Mango, i expected to see more craziness and outgoing from him, did not deliver in that aspect yet which leaves me abit confused.

Rest are null or don't have any reads on them yet.
 

Alright now that I am caught up, time to throw my few cents around.

I am quite frankly not happy with the amount of indies claims going around, personally don't see the point of it and feels like players are going out of their own way to try and prove a point here. Being an indie in my world means you stay hidden, play solo, and try to win. But to come out and out yourself and expect townie cooperation is mind boggling. You are going against what being indie means in those games. If you wanted to cooperate that badly with townie, then do that when you are townie lol.

Either way, I don't mind cooperating with ratchet chan right now. He is the only one out of the 3 indie claims I am willing to work with here for the time being. (Totally not because he hinted at a vergil role)

Now moving forward with the reads in this game. Let's start with the hot topic of every game, DrProf.

He is by far my strongest town read and I will be shocked if he flips anything other than townie here, his game early on reminds me of a game I played with him before. Dude was tunneling himself into oblivion and he tends to have the knack to do that.

Kag, I honestly was getting some suss vibes from her. I felt that she was very self conscious. But some of her posts, especially later on felt truly genuine. Not enough to put her in my town lean just yet, but enough to move her to my null list for now.

Nana, the fact that me and her were in similar wavelength regarding flower earns few townie points her way. But didn't really see anything else from her per say. Interested in her opinion regarding other players. Null to slight town lean.

Reborn, I been keeping a close eye on the guy. He did not post a single fluff post if memory serves me right, all the posts he made were direct and attempting to game solve. Now how genuine that game solving is, is yet to be seen, since I am not sure what to make of it yet, can't get a vibe check on him either. Have him as null for now.

Adam, me and him seem to be in similar wavelength regarding some stuff which is a good think, his posts come out as genuine, I wouldn't worry about him until later on in the game. As of right now, town lean.

Ultra, null I generally like to think I can read Ultra pretty well and while his early phase he was pinging me weird, he def improved but still not enough to hit that town lean just yet. I am usually very confident when I town read Ultra and hopefully he is indeed town.

Ekko, did not like him entertaining the thought of ratchet killing people early on during the day, and his vibe is slightly off this game, can't put my fingers on it yet. But I don't mind him getting lynched actually this DP. Scum lean.

T-Pein, dude is sus, trying to bait players into joining the town core, sussing players for discussing what is going on in the game regarding, and feels self aware at times which gives me sus vibes. Scum lean and don't mind seeing him lynched this DP either.

Flowa, i really disliked how dismissive about the entire discussing going on regarding indies, the game barely started and she wanted to shut down discussions from the get go. Did not post any reads or any scum hunting mentality, and brushed off alot of things, and apparently she visited Ultra too, and seem to be focused only on the people who voted her. Until I see something from her that gives me some townie feel, I don't think my vote is moving off of her unless someone pings me more sus than her. If she really is town, I really hope she proves it instead of just playing around.

JoyGirl, I seen some posts of her, she discussed the indie thing, then made some few more posts. Nothing really stood out to me cause I barely remember any of them. Null

Lord Melkor, I think he might actually be townie this game tbh. I liked that T-pein push, felt like he is independent in his push and making his own thoughts and judgement.

Pero, my boy pero has to be townie, his heart is green like mine afterall.

Don't mind pressuring any of the players below:

TAC, giving me his scum meta vibe

Ripped, giving me weird vibes, null.

Yo Tan, his game is very different than when I was townie with him. Like completely different and it's giving me an unsettling feeling. I like working with him so I hope he is townie but this so far does not look good on him, null to scum lean.

Pot, he is being inactive and not his usual active townie style I seen from him before, null to scum lean.

Mango, i expected to see more craziness and outgoing from him, did not deliver in that aspect yet which leaves me abit confused.

Rest are null or don't have any reads on them yet.
Mate I've spent about 5 mins in thread what vibes u on about
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Well, I hope you stay true to those words and don't complain about it after the game then.


"I can complain about what I like. If town decide to lynch me, provided the reasons aren't clearly mechanical or insightful, then yeah I'll take issue with it. Me claiming Indie does no give you all an excuse to stop thinking."​
Let‘s start with Ultra.
Ultra, Kagura, Charlie, Ekko, T-Pein.
"Ultra - Town(ish). Carefree enough like his town game, though he becomes easy to read when he starts pushing. Need to see him actually case someone. Kagura - Town. Indignant in her position, which isn't something I see her faking very easily. Charlie - some wild posts earlier that made me think he was on the glue, maybe town? Could go either way, not much to read him from. GTH - Town. Ekko, Scum. Weak arguments, easily-distracted, process behind his reasning is largely missing (he hass never been able to fake this well). He gets some benefit of the doubt for working on some silly setup of his. If this hasn't improved by Day 3, I'll blast him myself. Maybe. T-Pein, lean town only because his position seems reasonable to me."​
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Your whole thing with Ratchet is conflicting and inconsistent from calling him a possible jester (who would want to get lynched) to thinking trusting him will be Town’s downfall lol.


"I agree that Nana's postion on me seems to be mostly rambling and inconsistent. If I were to describe it in a certain way, it would be that she's fitting her reasoning to what she *wants* to be perceived. What I mean by that is, she wants my slot to be the subject of discussion and distrusted, and thus is trying to find any sort of reason to make that happen. I can attribute some of this to paranoia, but I can only go so far on that.

<Good!>. This is the first post this game I've liked from you."​
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
If you wanted to cooperate that badly with townie, then do that when you are townie lol.
He is by far my strongest town read and I will be shocked if he flips anything other than townie here, his game early on reminds me of a game I played with him before. Dude was tunneling himself into oblivion and he tends to have the knack to do that.
"I always co-operate with Indies when I'm Town, unless I don't believe their claim. Even then, I tend to side with caution, and will only expunge them when I'm reasonably certain they need to go. As for Prof, I feel like I've picked up on you two having your alignments confirmed to one another, I felt that when you got antsy with me earlier in regards to a comment I made towards him. Not certain on this, and obviously you don't need to and should not confirm here, but your reasoning behind town reading him is a tad too weak to justify the strength upon which you're reading him for me."​
 


"I can complain about what I like. If town decide to lynch me, provided the reasons aren't clearly mechanical or insightful, then yeah I'll take issue with it. Me claiming Indie does no give you all an excuse to stop thinking."​


"Ultra - Town(ish). Carefree enough like his town game, though he becomes easy to read when he starts pushing. Need to see him actually case someone. Kagura - Town. Indignant in her position, which isn't something I see her faking very easily. Charlie - some wild posts earlier that made me think he was on the glue, maybe town? Could go either way, not much to read him from. GTH - Town. Ekko, Scum. Weak arguments, easily-distracted, process behind his reasning is largely missing (he hass never been able to fake this well). He gets some benefit of the doubt for working on some silly setup of his. If this hasn't improved by Day 3, I'll blast him myself. Maybe. T-Pein, lean town only because his position seems reasonable to me."​
I actually liked first posts from Utra, but not a fan how he pushed Flower based on Reborn's comment that she can be a witch character. Which may not even be scum indicative.
 

Mashiro Blue

𝓦𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝓾𝓹𝓸𝓷 𝓪 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓻 ✰
You seem to have forgot GoT pretty quickly lol, where he effectively fake claimed indie. I’d expect you of all people to have a little PTSD over that whole thing so it kind of surprises me it didn’t seem to cross your mind.


I didn't claim indie in GOT.

I was Red and claimed Purple.

From Lannister Alliance faction to Daenarys Restoration faction.
 
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