Speculations God Valley IS the Ancient Weapon Uranus

[Monkey D Theories]

I think one issue with this theory is that if GV is basically a dead ancient weapon that didn’t actually have it’s power source until VP created it, doesn’t that kinda undermine the GV incident?

Why would Rocks risks it all on a dead ancient weapon? Why would Garp ally with his hated rival if Uranus couldn’t actually be used?

The work around to that is this:

i almost wonder if its related to the sun god mythology and wanting certain devil fruits. im still very convinced that the main reason Hajrudin was in the tournament was because he could make a claim to be sun god with the flame flame fruit. Like, could Sabo power the ancient weapon the same way Mother Flame could? Is the legendary elbaf devil fruit some kind of nuclear fusion sun fruit or like, a different sun god zoan?

If Rocks gained access to a DF that could power Uranus, then all of a sudden, GV is no longer a dead ancient weapon. Now Rocks has the full force of an ancient weapon in the palm of his hands.

A weapon he’s aiming to fire onto Mariejois, something that would destroy fish man Island.

And that is why Garp could ally with Roger against Xebec.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I always assumed Uranus is something Imu always had since void century.

 

[soupongo]

I always assumed Uranus is something Imu always had since void century.

Agreed, it would be kind of weird if the WG existed with no ancient weapon for 700 years

I think one issue with this theory is that if GV is basically a dead ancient weapon that didn’t actually have it’s power source until VP created it, doesn’t that kinda undermine the GV incident?

Why would Rocks risks it all on a dead ancient weapon? Why would Garp ally with his hated rival if Uranus couldn’t actually be used?

The work around to that is this:


If Rocks gained access to a DF that could power Uranus, then all of a sudden, GV is no longer a dead ancient weapon. Now Rocks has the full force of an ancient weapon in the palm of his hands.

A weapon he’s aiming to fire onto Mariejois, something that would destroy fish man Island.

And that is why Garp could ally with Roger against Xebec.

Bruh, the other answer is they fought over a girl. At the end of the day, it probably won't be anything crazy.

 

[Paperchampion23]

I think one issue with this theory is that if GV is basically a dead ancient weapon that didn’t actually have it’s power source until VP created it, doesn’t that kinda undermine the GV incident?

Why would Rocks risks it all on a dead ancient weapon? Why would Garp ally with his hated rival if Uranus couldn’t actually be used?

The work around to that is this:


If Rocks gained access to a DF that could power Uranus, then all of a sudden, GV is no longer a dead ancient weapon. Now Rocks has the full force of an ancient weapon in the palm of his hands.

A weapon he’s aiming to fire onto Mariejois, something that would destroy fish man Island.

And that is why Garp could ally with Roger against Xebec.

A literal island flying away after its inhabitants massacred is a big deal lol. We have no idea if the flying aspect even requires mother flame. Its not like the thing came crashing down after it fired on Lulusia.

How would Rocks or anyone for that matter even know it needs a fuel source before finding it?

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I always assumed Uranus is something Imu always had since void century.

But he never uses it until Vegapunk, at least thats whats implied by his dialogue in 1086. The world sunk 800 years ago, but we have no idea how or by whom.

 

[nik87]

How would Rocks or anyone for that matter even know it needs a fuel source before finding it?

This can be explained in several ways.
For example, voice of all things or reading poneglyphs or finding out such information through Elbaf's library considering that Jarul ages back 400 years so it isnt so hard that info from twice that age got somehow passed down in Elbaf.
The discovery that Garling talks about does leave a feeling that GV is indeed the Ancient Weapon, probably Uranus.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

I would say Good job its neatly tying up about how Imu got hold of Uranus .

The Question why didnt Imu use it before ? Answer is here it was hidden in God Valley .

Xebec definately didnt know it but he was after grand prize of Yami fruit that was displayed for native hunting winner other than nyku nyku .

Imu used this to disappear God Valley and the fuel rsn out and thats how Vegapunk was bought in and used it to experiment on Lunarians to extract flame .

Punk hazard was created for reviving ancient weapons and possibly an army of giants thats why they imprisoned Kaido .

Time for coffee here for me but it fits like glove to me .

 

[Paperchampion23]

This can be explained in several ways.
For example, voice of all things or reading poneglyphs or finding out such information through Elbaf's library considering that Jarul ages back 400 years so it isnt so hard that info from twice that age got somehow passed down in Elbaf.
The discovery that Garling talks about does leave a feeling that GV is indeed the Ancient Weapon, probably Uranus.

Yeah touche, that could explain it. Next chapter should answer it considering we don't know why Rocks decides to go to GV. Maybe partially it was Shakky (like Roger), but Whitebeard's dialogue in Kuma's FB definitely implies they were there for something specific, as if they had advanced knowledge of whatever Garling knew so we'll see

 

[Monkey D Theories]

A literal island flying away after its inhabitants massacred is a big deal lol. We have no idea if the flying aspect even requires mother flame. Its not like the thing came crashing down after it fired on Lulusia.

How would Rocks or anyone for that matter even know it needs a fuel source before finding it?

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But he never uses it until Vegapunk, at least thats whats implied by his dialogue in 1086. The world sunk 800 years ago, but we have no idea how or by whom.

I mean Shiki can create flying islands. That, in of itself, just isn’t that big of a deal.

Rocks fighting to the end and Garp allying with Roger suggests to me that Rocks was on the cusp of doing Something insane.

 

[D. Plant]

We have no idea if the flying aspect even requires mother flame. Its not like the thing came crashing down after it fired on Lulusia.

Some devil fruit power of God's Knights, solar power from that mega leak, or there are some generators to make enough power to fly it.

Comparing God Valley to Wano, both of them look very similar. They have a huge mountain in the middle. The differences are that God Valley's wall was broken, the rubble fell on the island, and the mountain was split into two and is now called a valley. Were they failed to build the wall in time, or did Zunisha break it 800 years ago and end up killing everyone on the island?



Shanks' mother might be a descendant who survived without the wall protecting them and was in incharge of guarding the place, but the World Government got ahead and found out and held hunting games there. If the wall was built, the WG could have known it sooner, but they cannot do anything with it. Imagine Wano could have ended up like God Valley if they failed to build the wall during the Void Century.

 

[Blax Blah]

@SassySquatch like Choomah Island is a choomah

 

[MonsterKaido]

A literal island flying away after its inhabitants massacred is a big deal lol. We have no idea if the flying aspect even requires mother flame. Its not like the thing came crashing down after it fired on Lulusia.

How would Rocks or anyone for that matter even know it needs a fuel source before finding it?

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But he never uses it until Vegapunk, at least thats whats implied by his dialogue in 1086. The world sunk 800 years ago, but we have no idea how or by whom.

Because he lacked mother flame to use it iirc.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Bravo, you figured out what was troubling me.
I will write a follow up on this. :cheers:

any update on this nik-san?

did your infinite wisdom somehow miscalculate something and you ended up thinking god valley was an ancient weapon?

Can that really be possible? Can an exalted one such as yourself really make such a mistake?

 

[nik87]

any update on this nik-san?

did your infinite wisdom somehow miscalculate something and you ended up thinking god valley was an ancient weapon?

Can that really be possible? Can an exalted one such as yourself really make such a mistake?

I still think God Valley is Uranus.

 

[moreha9685]

I still think God Valley is Uranus.

Oh, so that's why people kept saying that Thriller Bark was ass.

Kudos, Oda, that's some master foreshadowing.

 

[Senfret]

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