Powers & Abilities God's Knights and Gorosei make no sense

[Dragon777]

maybe from the water but not from being unconscious.

Yeah, but doesn't change the fact Garp effortely disposed of him.

it's going to take more than a single hit to take out the Titanic captains permanently especially in Garp's case because has no devil fruit like aoikiji where he can just immobilize opponents effortlessly. Garp only has his raw physical strength and haki.

Which is world level anyway.

No one outside the top 3/4 is even resisting more than one hit.

I can't imagine it knocking them out especially when he was fresh.

I hope so for Shiliew, but It would have fucked him bad.

Luffy of Wano was one-shotted by a non-hybrid Kaido; Kidd we know, and so on.

 

[Uncle Van]

It is agenda.
Admiralfans are surely not the only ones that act this way.
The moment you feel like an argument is in any way shape or form less than irrationaly favorable towards those you stan you get defensive.

If you read and understood the first post you would have found that there is no need to get defensive.

Lol sure Trav. You've always had a grudge against admiral guys, but lashing out at anyone who dares disagrees with you ain't healthy.

 

[JackThaConflagration]

Pirates, revos are like gangs and Mafia in real life.

Even though the central government is way more powerful, they can't really stamp out petty crime organizations, because they will also exist unless you eliminate the underlying cause e.g. drug addiction, poverty

 

[PrimordialGod95]

Yeah, but doesn't change the fact Garp effortlessly disposed of him.

actually now that I think about it was it ever stated that san Juan wolf was knockout in the first place?

No one outside the top 3/4 is even resisting more than one hit.

actually it all depends on the which of the Titanic captains garp is fighting.

I hope so for Shiliew, but It would have fucked him bad.

well he's human you expect him to not take damage?

Luffy of Wano was one-shotted by a non-hybrid Kaido;

he was hit in the head with a club swing of course he would be knock unconsciously. Also kaido being in hybrid or not is kinda a pointless argument.

 

[trav]

You've always had a grudge against admiral guys

I dislike any unreasonable arguments or agendadriven nonsense. It does not matter which characters it is about. You only feels like its Admirals in particular because that is the group you associate yourself with.

An Admiral can casually buster call Enies Lobby

They are far up the military hierarchy. This is not personal power, but the power of the Marines.
Admirals could not summon a Buster Call on the Gorosei.

The problems of not planning the story and introducing new factions at the tail end of it.

Or the power structure as most readers seem to perceive it is heavily skewed.

Yeah, the pirates, especially the Four Emperors system is good for the WG.
They keep each other in check of getting to Laftel, while preventing any other pirate from growing too strong.
When WB started to plan to make Ace the new PK and break the system the WG chose to go to war with him to prevent it

Its sort of beneficial, but not realiable. As we see right now. It also did not help that a stalemate meant that Yonkos had an arms race to get ahead of each other.
Now that Yonkos fell you have several top tier riddled crews with a lot of experience ready to shake the world up.
WG also never went against WB. Ace got captured by Teach and the WG just did what was expected of them. Kill Rogers son and try to make a public show out of it as a DETERRENT for future pirates.
Which backfired since WB spilled the beans about One Piece.

I’ve always believed for the celestials to be able to do whatever vile thing they wanted and we’re just completely above the law there’d have to be power behind that especially when you consider the marines work for them and aren’t like built from within. In terms of power balance yes I believe the elders individually could defeat an admiral considering they’re all powerful conquerors, they have regen, and have top tier displays of power/fighting ability. I also believe the Holy Knight leader would be above them considering the portrayal of the Figarland family, but I do not believe normal Holy Knights come close to any admiral they’re probably akin to Yc and Yc+ characters. Now whats the point of the admirals/marines? Well it’s like Warcury said they only exist to be the outward face of the World Govt, they enforce the will of the celestials without the actual celestials needing to lift a finger which is very in line with how the CDs are characterized. They are pompous and arrogant people that believe themselves to be gods, they sit on the backs of slaves so their feet don’t touch the ground these are the types of people we are talking about. For them to actually deal with physically deal with threats themselves their actual status and livelihood would have to be in jeopardy to the extent they can’t rely on admirals. They rule the world through propaganda and they get away with it but if they have to get involved it makes perfect sense they would have the strength behind the scenes ready to act at any given notice. If the marines themselves wanted to rebel as a whole they could have wiped the celestials out if there were no Holy Knights and if the elders were fodder, and they’d have good reason to do it. It’s because of the existence of these powers that I fully expect the marines to branch off and become an independent force, I can’t imagine Sakazuki taking much more disrespectful from these people.

Not an uncommon notion. Even though I disagree at the moment. Gorosei seem strong. I still do not believe that they are more powerful than the Admirals.
The CDs may be as you described, the Gorosei are not. They work hard and do not even wear the signature CD suits to breath other air than commoners. They do not do whatever they want. They are busy governing the WG and they interact with normal people on a daily basis.
Sakazui is fully onboard with the WG as of now. He is one of the least likely high ranking Marines to act against the WG.

Even the reason Garp gives for continuing to support the WG is really thin. Helping the people and keeping peace. When you think about it there is no peace right now. We were first made to believe that there was. Reality is that once you can not pony up enough tribute anymore the WG will drop you, making your already poverty riddled country a prime target for criminals. The deliberately hold countries in constant financial struggle under the pretext of protection when we got first hand evidence that countries not affiliated with the WG exists just fine.
Could be reasoned that same thing Garp pretends to get from being in the Marines he could have also achieved by being a pirate.

 

[zenox]

The manga went from 4 yonkos to this fuckery