Character Discussion Greenbull did not run away from Shanks

#24
I know some do and it makes sense if you look at akainu or kuzan
Again I excluded Akainu since he's the FA and what not
He seems special especially since Oda had him specifically scar Luffy, included him in that spread where Vegapunk talks about who will claim the OP, etc.
He'll likely be above the other Admirals and a god tier
As for Kuzan, he probably isn't above Kizaru Aramaki or Issho. Hasn't shown anything that the others can't do so far
 
#25
I was joking but let me ask you 2 questions

do you think current luffy is stronger than shanks??

is amaraki stronger than kizaru??
Greenbull being stronger than Kizaru, maybe, maybe not, maybe they are equals, if GreenBull has a black blade and his logia fruit is awakened then I would say that he is stronger than Kizaru and due to his vines he would be harder to handle,

When it comes to Luffy vs Shanks, I think Luffy's haki is definetly way weaker, since he got to emperor strength using both a fruit and his haki, I'm not sure if thee is anybody right now that equals Shanks in haki, maybe Imu or a holy knight, Mihawk is around that level too but black blade users may rely more on armament haki and that's where Mihawk's haki may be stronger than Shanks', with Shanks' conquerors haki being stronger than Mihawk's, but the thing is that both Luffy and Shanks are at a very big disadvantage against each other, Luffy can't take many sword cuts, and since swordsmen usually don't take a lot of hits either, Shanks also can't take a lot of punches from Luffy, I think if Shanks lands one or two swordsmoves he should win, but if Luffy lands 4 or 5 named attacks then he wins,
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Either way, as things are going, pirate king Luffy should be able to handle admirals like an emperor would handle commanders
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Except Coby, Helmeppo and Smoker,
 
#26
Are there people who genuinely believe any admiral is decisively above the others? Sakazuki excluded for obvious reasons.
There is currently no narrative confirmation of which admiral is stronger nor the implication of it in the story. If you look at marineford for example Kuzan moves out first but Sakazuki the last, but Kuzan and Sakazuki were the fleet candidates so.
And Greenbull and Fujitora are in-universe wildcards
The only thing that can be certain till further info is Akainu is the strongest
 
#29
There is currently no narrative confirmation of which admiral is stronger nor the implication of it in the story. If you look at marine ford for example Kuzan moves out first but Sakazuki the last, but Kuzan and Sakazuki were the fleet candidates so.
And Greenbull and Fujitora are inuniverse wildcards
The only thing that can be certain till further info is Akainu is the strongest
I'm thinking they're relative but excel in certain things
Like Kuzan probably has better AP than Kizaru but Kizaru has better speed
Aramaki possibly slightly better Armament than Issho but Issho has better Observation
 
#30
ok cool but then why would you assume shanks used his strongest COC for someone who is equal to or weaker than kizaru??
Because I think a very high if not max CoC output is needed to do to a Top Tier what Shanks has done to GB.

Dory and Brogy aren't sure if Joyboy's max CoC is above that of Shanks and I'm not sure if they have experienced Shanks flex his max CoC while being angry like he did against Ryokugyu.

But since I don't wanna entertain Shanks having higher CoC than Soyboy I assume Shanks used his CoC on max volume against Aramaki which about equals the CoC that Robot unleashed.
 

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#31
Again I excluded Akainu since he's the FA and what not
He seems special especially since Oda had him specifically scar Luffy, included him in that spread where Vegapunk talks about who will claim the OP, etc.
He'll likely be above the other Admirals and a god tier
As for Kuzan, he probably isn't above Kizaru Aramaki or Issho. Hasn't shown anything that the others can't do so far
kuzan and akainu went toe to toe so you can't really exclude one while including the other
 
#32
I was joking but let me ask you 2 questions

do you think current luffy is stronger than shanks??

is amaraki stronger than kizaru??
Maybe. It depends on if we are going to see Luffy vs Shanks or not. For now, Luffy defeated one that is canonically stronger than Shanks.

If Aramaki has a BB, yes.
 
#33
kuzan and akainu went toe to toe so you can't really exclude one while including the other
Akainu literally won though
Like it may have been an extreme diff but the dude still won on the 10th day
And he may have gotten stronger since then
But also one came out with a leg missing and the other part of his ear missing and scars over his body
So despite how hard the fight was for both of them Akainu was still superior in certain ways
 
#37
Akainu literally won though
Like it may have been an extreme diff but the dude still won on the 10th day
And he may have gotten stronger since then
But also one came out with a leg missing and the other part of his ear missing and scars over his body
I would still place them in the same tier.
Akainu as far as we know been sitting on desk for 2 years.
It's aokiji who went rogue and no way he didn't fight anyone.
 
#39
I'm thinking they're relative but excel in certain things
Like Kuzan probably has better AP than Kizaru but Kizaru has better speed
Aramaki possibly slightly better Armament than Issho but Issho has better Observation
Maybe but there isn't one group in all of one piece like that, or at least I fail to remember. Even if a organization is relative each other (as in they are group members that are not separated by a whole tier) oda always ranks the directly, or implicitly (bounties, doriki, group intern ranks and so on).

Interestingly enough the Gorosei hierarchy is also obfuscated but I'm assuming like the numbers indicate there is an actual hierarchy to them once they become main enemies (as the numbers of the summoning circles already hint at it)


If we go by power introduction (as in they show of their abilities as oda often does to establish the enmies) patterns post-ts it would be Akainu (nothing yet) > Kizaru ( Arrival at egghead) > Kuzan (Happens exactly before in hachinosu) > Greenbull (wano against the scabbards) > Fujitora (Dressrosa)

But like I said that's very flimsy
 
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