Powers & Abilities Haki Conqueror..

[Rootbeer]

Alright, there has been many discussions on the '' Self '' in relation to Conqueror's Haki and its symbolic meaning
overall..

In this thread i will just amply '' Simplify '' and '' Solidify '' this concept, and also expand on it..


In chapter 1194, why did Zoro's memories and internal monologue specifically include Luffy at fishman island?..

As written above, Zoro states, it's that thing where Luffy knocks out a bunch of people at once.. That's fine and all, but what
makes this little moment important is not so much what is mentioned, but rather the inferred missing part.. Zoro doesn't
say that it's that thing where '' i '' knocked out a bunch of people at once in Wano.. Or neither is it, that thing where
Luffy knocked out a bunch of people at once, '' like i did ''..



Here.. We.. Go..


That is exactly what Zoro had to learn in 1194.. Zoro had to awaken base Conqueror Haki..



When i say base CoC, i mean the one we are used to, the traditional CoC that overwhelms others from the user's mind..

That's not what Zoro did in Wano.. As a CoA specialist, Zoro unlocked CoC through his Body instead of the
mind like other Conquerors do.. From Wano up to now, Zoro could not willingly make people pass out, he
didn't have such power..

You see, there are 2 distinct CoC Awakenings which augment your base CoC pool levels..

- The CoC of the Body(CoA)
- The CoC of the Mind(CoC)

So by Awakening the CoC of the mind, not only was Zoro able to finally control his CoC and Coat CoC, but
he also leveled up his CoC volume as a whole..

And by default Zoro graduated from King of Hell..


Now the Zoro shown with huge Black Lightning trails is the equivalent to Luffy vs Katakuri for Swordsmen, both
being level 2 CoC..

Have you started figuring out how to reach the level of Haki Conqueror?..

That is the Sky splitters.. Even though Luffy was applying CoC and coating himself with it, it
wasn't enough to sky split, he was lacking CoC raw power..

So i present to you, the third way of making people pass out, the lingering CoC..
The CoC that lingers..

残身 , Lingering Body.. This is obviously not CoC, but it's to give you the idea of what Lingering can be, an effect that is being carried
on independently..

Now this third CoC awakening can be observed through Big Mom who is not even in the picture..

Speed mentions that those are the ripples of Big Mom's Haki..

However that's not really precise.. The term here is 余波 Yoha, which can mean the aftermath of something,
or the after effect, the lingering effect.. For example on a windy sea, the waves that remain after the wind
has subsided.. Essentially the wave after the wave.. In other words, a unique lower
frequency extended CoC range..


The fully unconscious display of Luffy's Conqueror's Haki in Wano act 1 was an early sign of it..

Even post defeat, Kaido made the remark that Luffy kept glaring at him the whole time..
That's because Luffy was literally making his anger linger over time, resulting in his CoC
coming out.. He had to.. Or else he would have used CoC sooner..

The truth is you can't use the CoC of the Mind and the CoC of the Body at all when you're physically
unconscious.. However that sequence of event was not truly lingering CoC, but an intermediary
stage similar to unconscious CoO prior to getting Future Sight if you will..




Then, it's no coincidence that Luffy was first able to speak the Voice of All things while sinking in the
Wano sea after his rooftop defeat..

At that very instant, Luffy awakened the Lingering CoC, or what i would rename to the CoC of the Heart(CoO)..
For Luffy to have the authority to transmit his thoughts through the Voice of All Things, he had to have the capabilities
to linger his CoC across long distances above the normal CoC scope..

Note that communicating through the Voice of all things is a lone application of the CoC of the Heart.. As Luffy
was also fully physically unconscious in this scene as well..


So there you have the 3 encompassing Haki Colors in CoC latent level..

The CoC of the Mind(CoC) -- The CoC of Overwhelm..
The CoC of the Body(CoA) -- The CoC of Sacrifice..
The CoC of the Heart(CoO) -- The CoC of Linger..

All these combined form the peak of CoC potency level, the Haki Conqueror..

Defining traits, sky splitting or wifi Haki on Shanks' scale..



I didn't go over it, but the peak of Advanced CoC mixes CoC Coating Lightning on CoA Black Lightning and CoO White Lightning in one..




@Santoryu D Bazooka @Blazing Lion @nik87 @ImmaIvanoM @ShishioIsBack

 

[nik87]

 

[Blazing Lion]

I agree with you on the I and we part. Zoro never realised that he knocked out the fodders in Wano. Pretty stupid from when he answers that question from King though. Until then CoC to Zoro was fodder clearance.
Idk about the white lightening part. As far as application of CoC goes I think it's like this.
Unlocking CoC unconsciously which KOs others around you.
Controlled CoC which leaves others unaffected from KO blast.
Passive aura which saves from hax (I think this is the lingering or linked to it).
Active coating (offensive and defensive)
Offensive coating (for attacks only)
DF nullification via WiFi
Haki beams
Duo sky split
Solo sky split
For CoO (it's FS killing and/or FS projection)
I think VoAT and BoAT maybe or may not be attached to CoC (since the VoAT seems hereditary).

The difference in strength determines who gets KOed and who doesn't unless the user chooses to save some. We saw Ray choose to knock out some in the auction house but not all. We can also see that Shanks hurts even his crew when he is focusing on an opponent (maybe it's his power is too overwhelming, I won't go and say it's a skill issue since he can WiFi diff an Admiral from miles away).
Idk if we have seen anyone in canon KO a VA (not Maynard level) except JB. In the films I think Shanks is shown as greatly affecting Momonga, top tier VA. But in canon his haki is compared to JBs with ambiguity about whose is stronger. So maybe in the KO burst there are levels to how much you want to exert the difference in power level.

 

[centurion]

The CoC of the Mind(CoC) -- The CoC of Overwhelm..
The CoC of the Body(CoA) -- The CoC of Sacrifice..
The CoC of the Heart(CoO) -- The CoC of Linger..

There are 3 types of CoC now?

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

So you basically gave up on the idea that Zoro "never used AdvCoC in Wano" and confirmed that he did indeed used it by saying he leveled it up.

""As a CoA specialist, Zoro unlocked CoC through his Body instead of the
mind like other Conquerors do.. From Wano up to now, Zoro could not willingly make people pass out, he
didn't have such power.. ""

LOL there is no such thing that he didn't have such power when you see it on panel they got knocked out. The dude had no idea he had that power there is a difference here. The only reason it worked in Wano because when he applied his Haki to his swords CoC was applied to the swords too which caused that burst at the time.

anyway ..

in terms of the "new" things you introduced here

The CoC of the Mind(CoC) -- The CoC of Overwhelm..
The CoC of the Body(CoA) -- The CoC of Sacrifice..
The CoC of the Heart(CoO) -- The CoC of Linger..

Its untrue and you know it. Because if CoC had different types then Gaban would have addressed it in that Chapter where he scolded Zoro and said something in terms of how different etc but no he treated it the same way. Or Roger and Garp would have said something during their fight vs Reversed Rox.

What you should instead focus on is the "Mass" thing that Oda introduced. And if you reread Kuma flashback you will also see VP say that the soul has a "Mass" when it leaves the body losses that extra "Mass".

And since the "Mass" thing is an actual term that Oda uses. Maybe it could be the difference on how strong the CoC is. Because of we go back to Ray's words. CoC cannot be trained but it grows with the user's own Strength. And if combine everything with Mihawk's words then we get the conclusion that the "Spirit" Aka "Soul" of the user and how strong it is. Is the answer on how strong the CoC is.

Which what makes Luffy the Conquerer of Conquerers.