Powers & Abilities Haki is the strongest power in the One Piece verse. The strongest characters are the ones with the stronger Haki

#81
I can't wait to see how this all changes once Oda reveals origin of Devil Fruits and Vegapunk plans.
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I still think awakening is > ACOC but I can see where you're coming from

I completely disagree with the "the one with better haki will always triumph" thing though

I don't think anyone could argue Luffy's haki was better than Katakuri's during WCI but he still won
But you could if you just say haki is willpower. Katakuri gave in and Luffy didn't

"The world is very convenient like that," indeed. Greater haki = winner. Takes a lot of interest out of fights. Super boring. Sorry HxH fans.
 
#82
Doffy had the same version of CoC that Big Mom and Kaido had up until Onigashima because Oda just made it up last minute. Any CoC user in their prime will have some basic CoC coating



Luffy/Zoro literally did 0 training for it. As soon as Zoro unlocked "basic" CoC, he unlocked ACoC.
That s a basic coc clash lmfaooo
Something don chinjao did already with luffy
Dat boy doffy a fodder
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#83
I think a lot makes sense

Haki is what mostly empowers someone on the ratio

This is why so many DFless people reached such heights, the grandest ones, they focused on what they got, their haki, the best
 
#84
Doffy had the same version of CoC that Big Mom and Kaido had up until Onigashima because Oda just made it up last minute. Any CoC user in their prime will have some basic CoC coating



Luffy/Zoro literally did 0 training for it. As soon as Zoro unlocked "basic" CoC, he unlocked ACoC.
That's because Luffy and Zoro have immensely greater potential than Doflamingo, or Katakuri, or Chinjao, have/had.

That's why the formers could unlock Advanced Conqueror Haki, while the latters are/were "just" basic Conquerors.

Anyway, being a Conqueror is already a very big deal, setting yourself for someone stronger than the others of comparable class.
And that comes from the very mouth of somone who is both an Awakened DF user and a Conqueror but one who didn't manage to become an Adv CoC user. Plus a very knowledgeable pirate. So someone who knows what he is talking about.



There's a reason for why Adv CoC is portrayed as the power of the top tiers, by one of the most powerful top tiers calling that power something that "only a handful of the very strongest can".



Zoro is THAT MUCH strong.
Just deal with it once and for all.
 
#85
Basic coc is useless for most part. Tbh I doubt doffy even knows what adv coc is. Potential is tricky and OP DFs are also there

People believe Aokiji no haki beats doffy a coc user for example
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#86
Basic coc is useless for most part. Tbh I doubt doffy even knows what adv coc is. Potential is tricky and OP DFs are also there

People believe Aokiji no haki beats doffy a coc user for example
Against top tiers basic CoC is useless maybe. I don't think it should boost someone's power level at least 🤔
 
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