Powers & Abilities Haki specialist

[Erkan12]

Lil boy Erkek still crying about Ryuma's sword that isn't the strongest sword like Yoru is. Ryuma cant help you.
The kind of logic where manga tells Zoro to use Haki to surpass the strongest blade in history?
I'm not talking about black blades, I'm talking about the strongest weapon in the world. Can you tell the difference?

Wrong, if anyone else was WSM instead of Mihawk, they would have that title. It is being saved up for Zoro when he beats Mihawk.
Shanks is weaker due to weaker haki, that's why Gryphon isn't the strongest weapon in the world.

If sword skill was enough to beat people Zoro wouldn't need Haki but all he gets is haki for the last 26 years, you know?

Yes, I know better than Kaido because I can see no aCoC was being used. Still cant provide evidence for it?
Oda never said that, it is just your low IQ that deluded itself. Oda said not to use too much aCoC not that Paradise Waterfall is aCoC.
As you can see, on every single argument you took a fig fat L and you still want more. The gift that keeps on giving.

Based on your ZKK logic, nothing help you Lik boy. I see thousands of mihawk emojis just because you lose your mind while crying

Mihawk only has strongest sword in the world because of its swordsmith, not related to Mihawk Lik boy, I just proved by using Ryuma's 21 rank blade not even 12 rank blade.

Ryuma > Mihawk, yet Ryuma's blade isn't even rank 12.

You said you weren't insecure about Ls but why you are crying about this L this and making up excuses? I see you lie again.

Broken record Lik spreading same nonsense like a bot: nope I just proved the ranking of the blade is not related to power. See Ryuma example. Shanks not having strongest blade doesn't mean he can't beat Mihawk, just like Ryuma with rank 21 blade would beat Mihawk who has rank 12 blade.

Shanks's Haki hype is different level than Mihawk's. Mihawk will never have that Haki hype, only sword skill hype.

Shanks > Mihawk as Haki isn't included in WGS title.

Lik boy is desperate that Kaido said Zolo with Asura used CoC and Oda said Oden used CoC without Haki trails, stop crying Lik boy, we know you take too many Ls about ZKK, Gaban and ACoC so people don't need to see you cry always.

 

[nik87]

Based on your ZKK logic, nothing help you Lik boy. I see thousands of mihawk emojis just because you lose your mind while crying

Mihawk only has strongest sword in the world because of its swordsmith, not related to Mihawk Lik boy, I just proved by using Ryuma's 21 rank blade not even 12 rank blade.

Ryuma > Mihawk, yet Ryuma's blade isn't even rank 12.

You said you weren't insecure about Ls but why you are crying about this L this and making up excuses? I see you lie again.

Broken record Lik spreading same nonsense like a bot: nope I just proved the ranking of the blade is not related to power. See Ryuma example. Shanks not having strongest blade doesn't mean he can't beat Mihawk, just like Ryuma with rank 21 blade would beat Mihawk who has rank 12 blade.

Shanks's Haki hype is different level than Mihawk's. Mihawk will never have that Haki hype, only sword skill hype.

Shanks > Mihawk as Haki isn't included in WGS title.

Lik boy is desperate that Kaido said Zolo with Asura used CoC and Oda said Oden used CoC without Haki trails, stop crying Lik boy, we know you take too many Ls about ZKK, Gaban and ACoC so people don't need to see you cry always.

I don't need any help, your agenda and self-sabotage help me more than enough. And the fact that Mihawk emoji bothers you.
You didn't prove anything because Ryuma's weapon isn't the strongest weapon in the world like Mihawk's. And you are wrong on all accounts, it is related to Mihawk because Mihawk is the swordsmith just like Zoro will be and just like Ryuma was.
Once again, cope cant help you, because we are talking about the strongest weapon, not about black blades. You are simply running away every time you are cornered which is your normal behaviour whenever debating me.
When debating you about events from the past, it is not possible for me to take an L because you are way too good at self-sabotage.

Wrong, you didn't prove anything, you are just delusional thinking that you did. Rankiing of the blade is literally related to Power because it is done through Haki, lmao. Why are you handling Ls to yourself this easily? At least make it a bit harder for me.
Mihawk beats both Shanks and Ryuma because his haki is the strongest, Yoru is proof of it. Stay mad.
Haki isnt included into WGS and yet Mihawk told Zoro to use Haki to beat him? Master of self-sabotage in his natural habitat.
Only you saw aCoC on Asura and Paradise Waterfall because Mihawk and Zoro scare you that much. Keep it going.

 

[HA001]

I see Lik boy wants to cry more after getting debunked.

''Sword God'' Ryuma's Black Blade weapon isn't even one of the 12 supreme blades. So what kind of ZKK fanfic logic tells you that weapon's grade has related to Haki superiority? Swordsmith is a huge factor in which blades can be better, making it black blade might increase its rank but still Ryuma couldn't make it 12 supreme blade. As you can see Lik boy, taking Ls is your fate when you argue against me. Another L after Gaban, ZKK and ACoC.

So argument still debunk you: if Mihawk had better Haki than Shanks, Mihawk would be WSM not WGS. Shanks is stronger due to Haki difference.

Zolo's Haki with 2 swords isn't enough to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, so as you see Zolo is desperate to win fights with 3 swords skill, not with Haki difference.

In ZKKfanboy Lik's mind, CoC user Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about Zolo's CoC but Lik and ZKKfanboys knows better than Kaido... As usual you keep lying always, although you think these lies are smart ones but its not, you and ZKKfanboys simply insult other people intelligence by producing these abundant and ridiculous lies and expect people to believe it.

Oda clearly said paradise waterfall is CoC just like Kamusari, repeating this lie won't make it true Lik boy, you maybe think people with low IQ can believe in these ZKK tier lies but don't insult other people's intelligence.

Zolo's shockwave is his weakest attack for sure, he tried that vs Alber to protect his sword only, It didn't do any damage to Alber.

Make a thread about Zolo and ask if Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years since Mihawk told him until he masters Haki, Zolo can't drink alcohol.

Mihawk specifically says ''until' you master this, meaning they have different trainings ''after'' Zolo masters Haki, what it would be? Clearly sword skill was the next training which is different than Haki training.


Zolo isn't stronger than them, he is just a sword skill based fighter meanwhile others aren't. Even Oden's Haki level is hyped many times, as we know Oden's Haki was so powerful he mastered Enma when he was a kid, while Wano Zolo was struggling with using Enma. Oden's Haki is different level than Mihawk or Zolo's Haki as well. There were always talks about ''Oden's Haki'', that won't be the same for Mihawk or Zolo, their Haki won't be felt by WSC years after they died thats the difference.

Same difference with Shanks's Haki, its always hyped more than Mihawk. Mihawk and Zolo are hyped for their sword skill, Zolo can't even win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci without 3 swords.

Shanks / Roger = superior Haki level, WSM level.
Mihawk / Zolo = superior sword skill WGS, not WSM level.

Zoros shockwave vs King wasn't an attack lmfao

Zoro has ACTUAL shockwave name attacks that if he used acoc on would do way more damage than what acoc birds dance did.

I don't need to make a thread
SHOW PROOF

Anyone who teaches swordsmanship only has ever taught haki

now oden isnt a swordsman lmfao

even though he talks about his swordsmanship all the time

Rest is garbage

 

[Erkan12]

I don't need any help, your agenda and self-sabotage help me more than enough. And the fact that Mihawk emoji bothers you.
You didn't prove anything because Ryuma's weapon isn't the strongest weapon in the world like Mihawk's. And you are wrong on all accounts, it is related to Mihawk because Mihawk is the swordsmith just like Zoro will be and just like Ryuma was.
Once again, cope cant help you, because we are talking about the strongest weapon, not about black blades. You are simply running away every time you are cornered which is your normal behaviour whenever debating me.
When debating you about events from the past, it is not possible for me to take an L because you are way too good at self-sabotage.

Wrong, you didn't prove anything, you are just delusional thinking that you did. Rankiing of the blade is literally related to Power because it is done through Haki, lmao. Why are you handling Ls to yourself this easily? At least make it a bit harder for me.
Mihawk beats both Shanks and Ryuma because his haki is the strongest, Yoru is proof of it. Stay mad.
Haki isnt included into WGS and yet Mihawk told Zoro to use Haki to beat him? Master of self-sabotage in his natural habitat.
Only you saw aCoC on Asura and Paradise Waterfall because Mihawk and Zoro scare you that much. Keep it going.

Those emojis only shows your ZKK mental state, which is bad news for you, ZKK made you lose your mind.

What did you just try to say? I can't hear it from your crying: Ryuma's weapon isn't 12 rank, that alone debunk your ZKK mouth.

Just like Ryuma don't need rank 12 weapon to beat Mihawk's ass, Shanks doesn't need rank 12 weapon as well.

Shanks's Haki hype >>>>>>>>>>> Mihawk Haki hype, not even close.

Kaido said Zolo's asura has CoC
Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall has CoC without Haki trails

Oda made up Haki trail after Time Skip, there was no such a thing as Haki trails before. He can make invisible anytime he wants, too bad your ZKK IQ isn't enough to understand these basic things.

Zoros shockwave vs King wasn't an attack lmfao

Zoro has ACTUAL shockwave name attacks that if he used acoc on would do way more damage than what acoc birds dance did.

I don't need to make a thread
SHOW PROOF

Anyone who teaches swordsmanship only has ever taught haki

now oden isnt a swordsman lmfao

even though he talks about his swordsmanship all the time

Rest is garbage

If Zolo's shockwave was powerful enough, it would do more than just block. You think Zolo could do more with Haki attack but choose not to? Stop crying, it wasn't strong enough.

Zolo's Haki speciality is CoA, CoC speciality Haki users have always better Haki potential.

You need to show proof LA01, saying that Mihawk only show him Haki is baseless when Mihawk tells him he can't drink alcohol, if you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years lets see your proof lmao.

Oden's Haki level is different level than Zolo and Mihawk, this is obvious.

Then there is Shanks and Roger who have comparable Haki to Joy Boy, stop crying about Zolo and Mihawk not having Shanks and Roger level Haki, they will be inferior always only has sword skill advantage thats it.

Shanks / Roger = superior Haki level, WSM level.
Mihawk / Zolo = superior sword skill WGS, not WSM level.

 

[nik87]

Those emojis only shows your ZKK mental state, which is bad news for you, ZKK made you lose your mind.

What did you just try to say? I can't hear it from your crying: Ryuma's weapon isn't 12 rank, that alone debunk your ZKK mouth.

Just like Ryuma don't need rank 12 weapon to beat Mihawk's ass, Shanks doesn't need rank 12 weapon as well.

Shanks's Haki hype >>>>>>>>>>> Mihawk Haki hype, not even close.

Kaido said Zolo's asura has CoC
Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall has CoC without Haki trails

Oda made up Haki trail after Time Skip, there was no such a thing as Haki trails before. He can make invisible anytime he wants, too bad your ZKK IQ isn't enough to understand these basic things.

The only one who constantly mentions those emojis is the one who is bothered by them, probably because you keep taking Ls.
No, Ryuma's weapon doesn't debunk anything because Yoru is the strongest and was forged by Mihawk's haki.
Mihawk beats Shanks and Ryuma in a 1vs2. Stay mad, only Zoro is created to be able to beat Mihawk, nobody else.
Wrong, Mihawk's haki hype has been second to none since chapter 51, you simply couldn't figure out why Yoru is strongest.
Kaido didn't say that, Oda didn't say that either. Both takes are low IQ agenda, nothing new from Crying Six.

I think I figured out why you are this mad - while trying to prove that Shanks is a stronger Hakiman than Mihawk you ended up losing to Mihawk's student who scarred Kaido while Shanks couldn't.

 

[HA001]

Those emojis only shows your ZKK mental state, which is bad news for you, ZKK made you lose your mind.

What did you just try to say? I can't hear it from your crying: Ryuma's weapon isn't 12 rank, that alone debunk your ZKK mouth.

Just like Ryuma don't need rank 12 weapon to beat Mihawk's ass, Shanks doesn't need rank 12 weapon as well.

Shanks's Haki hype >>>>>>>>>>> Mihawk Haki hype, not even close.

Kaido said Zolo's asura has CoC
Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall has CoC without Haki trails

Oda made up Haki trail after Time Skip, there was no such a thing as Haki trails before. He can make invisible anytime he wants, too bad your ZKK IQ isn't enough to understand these basic things.


If Zolo's shockwave was powerful enough, it would do more than just block. You think Zolo could do more with Haki attack but choose not to? Stop crying, it wasn't strong enough.

Zolo's Haki speciality is CoA, CoC speciality Haki users have always better Haki potential.

You need to show proof LA01, saying that Mihawk only show him Haki is baseless when Mihawk tells him he can't drink alcohol, if you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years lets see your proof lmao.

Oden's Haki level is different level than Zolo and Mihawk, this is obvious.

Then there is Shanks and Roger who have comparable Haki to Joy Boy, stop crying about Zolo and Mihawk not having Shanks and Roger level Haki, they will be inferior always only has sword skill advantage thats it.

Shanks / Roger = superior Haki level, WSM level.
Mihawk / Zolo = superior sword skill WGS, not WSM level.

Why do I need to show proof lmfao

I'm using the manga

Mihawk = teaches haki
Koshiro = teaches haki
Oden = tries to teach haki
Hyogoro = teaches haki
Every single time there is sword training IT IS HAKI


Odens haki is way worse it couldn't make enma black lmfao we have a literal cap on odens haki

Mihawk has CONFIRMED SUPERIOR TECHNIQUES TO DIVINE DEPARTURE

 

[Erkan12]

The only one who constantly mentions those emojis is the one who is bothered by them, probably because you keep taking Ls.
No, Ryuma's weapon doesn't debunk anything because Yoru is the strongest and was forged by Mihawk's haki.
Mihawk beats Shanks and Ryuma in a 1vs2. Stay mad, only Zoro is created to be able to beat Mihawk, nobody else.
Wrong, Mihawk's haki hype has been second to none since chapter 51, you simply couldn't figure out why Yoru is strongest.
Kaido didn't say that, Oda didn't say that either. Both takes are low IQ agenda, nothing new from Crying Six.

I think I figured out why you are this mad - while trying to prove that Shanks is a stronger Hakiman than Mihawk you ended up losing to Mihawk's student who scarred Kaido while Shanks couldn't.

Why would I care of you losing your mind due to ZKK Use all the mihawk emojis that just shows how much you are crying because of me ZKK Lik boy.


As you admitted, this mean you are insecure because you don't want to admit you already lose:

So all you have is headcanons? Pathetic.
When you find some actual evidence, let me know.

Not headcanon, all facts Lik boy. Concession accepted.

You already give up, but I said ''concession'' accepted you become mad and suddenly started to cry again.

''No, Ryuma's weapon doesn't debunk anything because Yoru is the strongest and was forged by Mihawk's haki.''

What did I just read? Did you truly lose your mind due to ZKK and Gaban?

Your argument is that Mihawk is superior due to weapon's ranking.
''Sword God'' Ryuma's weapon's ranking is inferior yet he is still stronger than Mihawk.

Debunked cry all you want.

Kaido said Zolo's Asura has CoC.
Oda made up Haki trails after TS, not necessary as he admitted Oden used CoC in his Paradise Waterfall.
You took the Ls again.

Why do I need to show proof lmfao

I'm using the manga

Mihawk = teaches haki
Koshiro = teaches haki
Oden = tries to teach haki
Hyogoro = teaches haki
Every single time there is sword training IT IS HAKI


Odens haki is way worse it couldn't make enma black lmfao we have a literal cap on odens haki

Mihawk has CONFIRMED SUPERIOR TECHNIQUES TO DIVINE DEPARTURE

You talk certain that Mihawk didn't show Zolo anything but Haki, so you need to show proof for that. Its obvious Zolo drink alcohol during 2 years Mihawk training meaning that Zolo learned Haki first then they started to train something different than Haki, which is sword skill and thats the next step because sword skill training was more important and more advance training than Haki training since it came later after Haki for the swordsmen training.

Again: Mihawk and Zolo won't leave their Haki behind to make next generation WSC being nervous about their Haki long after they died. Even Wano Zolo struggled with Enma while Oden used Enma when he was a kid, 2 different levels. Someone talented like Yamato was so impressed with Oden's Haki, her goal is to become Oden. Different levels here.

Mihawk and Zolo's non-cutting attacks are their weakest due to weaker Haki level and superior sword skill.
Roger and Shanks's non-cutting attack Kamusari are their strongest (remember how you said apprentice Shanks was fodder lmao Shanks was using Kamusari when he was apprentice debunked your ZKK head).

 

[nik87]

Why would I care of you losing your mind due to ZKK Use all the mihawk emojis that just shows how much you are crying because of me ZKK Lik boy.


As you admitted, this mean you are insecure because you don't want to admit you already lose:

You already give up, but I said ''concession'' accepted you become mad and suddenly started to cry again.

''No, Ryuma's weapon doesn't debunk anything because Yoru is the strongest and was forged by Mihawk's haki.''

What did I just read? Did you truly lose your mind due to ZKK and Gaban?

Your argument is that Mihawk is superior due to weapon's ranking.
''Sword God'' Ryuma's weapon's ranking is inferior yet he is still stronger than Mihawk.

Debunked cry all you want.

Kaido said Zolo's Asura has CoC.
Oda made up Haki trails after TS, not necessary as he admitted Oden used CoC in his Paradise Waterfall.
You took the Ls again.

Seems like the effect of all these Mihawk emojis is frying your brain.
Trying to save yourself with ZKK and Gaban while losing to Mihawk and Zoro as ultimate hakimen? lol
Why am I constantly debunking your headcanons if I gave up?
Indeed, Ryuma's weapon doesnt have any relevance here because Mihawk and Yoru are stronger than Ryuma and Shusui.
Mentioning Ryuma and his weapon doesnt disprove Mihawk's haki being the strongest which Yoru is proof of. You are simply mad and cornered and without arguments so you mention whatever that has no relevance at all or you simply fail logic. I am betting on being butthurt but cant say for sure that low IQ isnt the actual problem.

What is your proof of Ryuma being stronger than Mihawk? Other than agenda-driven headcanon?
Kaido never said Asura has aCoC, butthurt agenda talk, nothing more nothing less. Provide aCoC trails on Deadman's Game. You cant.
He never admited Oden used ACoC on Paradise Waterfall in the scene back in Wano. I already debunked all your headcanons, repeating them wont change anything except getting Ls for the same thing all over again.

Grown ass man crying about Zoro and Mihawk resorting to agenda-driven lies is truly the peak of humanity.

 

[Erkan12]

Seems like the effect of all these Mihawk emojis is frying your brain.
Trying to save yourself with ZKK and Gaban while losing to Mihawk and Zoro as ultimate hakimen? lol
Why am I constantly debunking your headcanons if I gave up?
Indeed, Ryuma's weapon doesnt have any relevance here because Mihawk and Yoru are stronger than Ryuma and Shusui.
Mentioning Ryuma and his weapon doesnt disprove Mihawk's haki being the strongest which Yoru is proof of. You are simply mad and cornered and without arguments so you mention whatever that has no relevance at all or you simply fail logic. I am betting on being butthurt but cant say for sure that low IQ isnt the actual problem.

What is your proof of Ryuma being stronger than Mihawk? Other than agenda-driven headcanon?
Kaido never said Asura has aCoC, butthurt agenda talk, nothing more nothing less. Provide aCoC trails on Deadman's Game. You cant.
He never admited Oden used ACoC on Paradise Waterfall in the scene back in Wano. I already debunked all your headcanons, repeating them wont change anything except getting Ls for the same thing all over again.

Grown ass man crying about Zoro and Mihawk resorting to agenda-driven lies is truly the peak of humanity.

Ryuma is ''sword god'', meanwhile Mihawk is mere WGS. Not comparable Lik of 1000 Ls

If you weren't insecure about it, you would accept the L like you accept it when its too late; ZKK, Gaban, ACoC all these Ls you needed to be spoonfed with it.

There was no such a thing as ''Haki trails'' PreTS ZKKfanboy, isn't this clear statement? When Oda says Oden used CoC in paradise waterfall then he did, your ZKK delusion about Zolo not using CoC so you can wank Zolo over it is irrelevant, you can lie all you want, your pathetic lies won't work here I will keep debunking your lies always.

Keep your lies to yourself ZKKfanboy;
- Kaido said Zolo used Asura with CoC, yellow lights same as Luffy's CoC also proves this, and Zolo not having same success before and then with CoC amplification having success vs Kaido also proves this. You can keep lying all you want.
- Oda made up ''Haki trails'' thing after TS, its not necessary always especially if Oda himself says someone used CoC in SBS.
- Ryuma > Mihawk, and Ryuma not having 12 rank weapon debunk your nonsense. Shanks has better Haki hype, thus Shanks > Mihawk, Haki isn't included in WGS since Roger wasn't WGS. Cry all you want with mihawk emojis.

 

[nik87]

Ryuma is ''sword god'', meanwhile Mihawk is mere WGS. Not comparable Lik of 1000 Ls

That is your proof of Ryuma being stronger than Mihawk? The post-mortem title given by fodder? Why did I even ask...

If you weren't insecure about it, you would accept the L like you accept it when its too late; ZKK, Gaban, ACoC all these Ls you needed to be spoonfed with it.

I always embrace my Ls. Are you Gaban's lover to be this upset about it?
aCoC wasn't my L, are you bright enough to understand that or I need to spoon feed it to you?

There was no such a thing as ''Haki trails'' PreTS ZKKfanboy, isn't this clear statement? When Oda says Oden used CoC in paradise waterfall then he did, your ZKK delusion about Zolo not using CoC so you can wank Zolo over it is irrelevant, you can lie all you want, your pathetic lies won't work here I will keep debunking your lies always.

Gaban lover, return to reality. I am not talking about pre-TS. Mihawk emojis literally fried your brain...
Oda never said he used it in that scene. Logically, because no aCoC was used, because Oden had no clue what aCoC is at that point.
Is that too difficult for you to understand? I could make it simpler but not sure if it will have any effect.

But I am not lying when saying that Zoro is a better hakiman than Shanks, he left a scar on Kaido while Shanks didn't.
You can bargain all you want, it will not change the fact that you cannot compete with Zoro, aCoC or no aCoC.
And I know for a fact that Zoro didn't use aCoC and I can prove it while you cant.
You will keep debunking me? How do you plan to do that considering you didn't debunk literally anything in this topic?

Keep your lies to yourself ZKKfanboy;
- Kaido said Zolo used Asura with CoC, yellow lights same as Luffy's CoC also proves this, and Zolo not having same success before and then with CoC amplification having success vs Kaido also proves this. You can keep lying all you want.
- Oda made up ''Haki trails'' thing after TS, its not necessary always especially if Oda himself says someone used CoC in SBS.
- Ryuma > Mihawk, and Ryuma not having 12 rank weapon debunk your nonsense.

There are no lights in Oda's work, especially not yellow because his work is in black and white. Debunked.
Manga already proved that Zoro did not use aCoC because we literally can see haki coating of DeadMan's Game being identical to coating of Tatsumaki. You have to try harder, son.

Once again, I am not talking about pre-TS, stop coping about it.
Oda never said aCoC was used in the specific moment you talk about. Stop coping due to lack of headcanon support.
Ryuma>Mihawk is your headcanon which you cannot prove so you will continue to cope about it. You didn't debunk anything.

Shanks has better Haki hype, thus Shanks > Mihawk, Haki isn't included in WGS since Roger wasn't WGS. Cry all you want with mihawk emojis.

>Haki isn't included in WGS
Really? Because it is a manga fact that Mihawk told Zoro to use haki to surpass him.
What is your cope response to that fact?

I already told you why Roger wasn't WGS - because Oden was stronger than him.
Also a manga fact that you cope with.

Every single point addressed and debunked. And you think you debunked me?
Do you know what debunk means? Hint - it is not the same as wishful thinking.

 

[Erkan12]

I already told you why Roger wasn't WGS - because Oden was stronger than him.

Now that make sense why Lik uses that many Mihawk emojis while taking Ls Lik lost his mind after ZKK L. He keep taking Ls like Gaban as well.

First denies Kaido's CoC statement about Zolo Asura, then denies Oda's statement about Oden's CoC paradise waterfall without Haki trails, keep talking about Haki trails even though Oda made that shit up Post TS not before.

I also remember Lik saying Kaido > Oden but not WB > Oden or some shit like that, now he says Oden > Roger.

 

[nik87]

Now that make sense why Lik uses that many Mihawk emojis while taking Ls Lik lost his mind after ZKK L. He keep taking Ls like Gaban as well.

First denies Kaido's CoC statement about Zolo Asura, then denies Oda's statement about Oden's CoC paradise waterfall without Haki trails, keep talking about Haki trails even though Oda made that shit up Post TS not before.

I also remember Lik saying Kaido > Oden but not WB > Oden or some shit like that, now he says Oden > Roger.

Concession accepted.
As expected when you couldn't debate a single point against me.

 

[Erkan12]

Concession accepted.
As expected when you couldn't debate a single point against me.

You learned that words from your daddy who is me, I accepted your concession before then you started to cry more, and you literally say the dumbest shits like Oden > Roger, and Oden > WB, thats how I made you desperate Lik. Don't go against your superior again.

 

[HA001]

Why would I care of you losing your mind due to ZKK Use all the mihawk emojis that just shows how much you are crying because of me ZKK Lik boy.


As you admitted, this mean you are insecure because you don't want to admit you already lose:


You already give up, but I said ''concession'' accepted you become mad and suddenly started to cry again.

''No, Ryuma's weapon doesn't debunk anything because Yoru is the strongest and was forged by Mihawk's haki.''

What did I just read? Did you truly lose your mind due to ZKK and Gaban?

Your argument is that Mihawk is superior due to weapon's ranking.
''Sword God'' Ryuma's weapon's ranking is inferior yet he is still stronger than Mihawk.

Debunked cry all you want.

Kaido said Zolo's Asura has CoC.
Oda made up Haki trails after TS, not necessary as he admitted Oden used CoC in his Paradise Waterfall.
You took the Ls again.

You talk certain that Mihawk didn't show Zolo anything but Haki, so you need to show proof for that. Its obvious Zolo drink alcohol during 2 years Mihawk training meaning that Zolo learned Haki first then they started to train something different than Haki, which is sword skill and thats the next step because sword skill training was more important and more advance training than Haki training since it came later after Haki for the swordsmen training.

Again: Mihawk and Zolo won't leave their Haki behind to make next generation WSC being nervous about their Haki long after they died. Even Wano Zolo struggled with Enma while Oden used Enma when he was a kid, 2 different levels. Someone talented like Yamato was so impressed with Oden's Haki, her goal is to become Oden. Different levels here.

Mihawk and Zolo's non-cutting attacks are their weakest due to weaker Haki level and superior sword skill.
Roger and Shanks's non-cutting attack Kamusari are their strongest (remember how you said apprentice Shanks was fodder lmao Shanks was using Kamusari when he was apprentice debunked your ZKK head).

PROVE IT SHOW PANELS OR STFU.

I GO OFF MANGA PANELS

ODEN KOSHIRO MIHAWK HYOGORO all talk teaching swordsmanship ALL TEACH HAKI

Rest is just nonsense

That's fine that means shanks with acoc couldn't beat mihawk.

 

[nik87]

You learned that words from your daddy who is me, I accepted your concession before then you started to cry more, and you literally say the dumbest shits like Oden > Roger, and Oden > WB, thats how I made you desperate Lik.

I addressed and debunked every single point of yours and that was your reply?
Concession accepted indeed.
Kaido>Oden>WB=Roger is a manga fact and there is nothing you can do about it.
Just like you couldn't do anything regarding every other point I made in this thread.
All you can do is crying and imagine how you debunked me while you debunked nothing.

 

[Erkan12]

I addressed and debunked every single point of yours and that was your reply?
Concession accepted indeed.
Kaido>Oden>WB=Roger is a manga fact and there is nothing you can do about it.
Just like you couldn't do anything regarding every other point I made in this thread.
All you can do is crying and imagine how you debunked me while you debunked nothing.

''Concession accepted''. You learned that from me then you cried to write more you know your superior is right again, remember your Gaban L. If you think saying Oden > Roger and Oden > WB isn't the end of debate and isn't losing you need mental help Lik, ZKK damaged you even worse than I expected.

PROVE IT SHOW PANELS OR STFU.

I GO OFF MANGA PANELS

ODEN KOSHIRO MIHAWK HYOGORO all talk teaching swordsmanship ALL TEACH HAKI

Rest is just nonsense

That's fine that means shanks with acoc couldn't beat mihawk.

I go by panels LA01 of 1000 Ls, you remember saying apprentice Shanks was fodder and running away after ZKK? You should stfu about power levels, don't run your mouth about power levels ever again lmao.

Panels:

- Mihawk saying no alcohol before learning Haki: you can't run your mouth about Zolo not drinking alcohol for 2 years because you know Zolo learned Haki first then they trained for sword skill.
- Rayleigh as a non-DF user taught Luffy DF skill. Ray should've no business showing Luffy DF skill but even he did that. You believing swordsman not making another swordsman skill better is simply desperate lmao.

 

[nik87]

''Concession accepted''. You learned that from me then you cried to write more you know your superior is right again, remember your Gaban L. If you think saying Oden > Roger and Oden > WB isn't the end of debate and isn't losing you need mental help Lik, ZKK damaged you even worse than I expected.

Remember Gaban all you want if it helps you sleep but concession can only be accepted when all points are addressed and debunked and the opposition has no response other than repeating headcanons. That is your fate when debating me because I always stick to facts.

Feel free to prove me wrong about Oden>WB/Roger.
See if it will go better than proving me wrong about Zoro and Mihawk being the strongest hakimen in the show.

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Strongest Martial artist: they don't use Haki to train.

Strongest Swordsman: not included Haki.

If Haki included, Mihawk would be WSM.

- Mihawk saying no alcohol before learning Haki

In OP, how do the characters fight?

With his physical stats, intelligence, arts, techniques and skills + haki

In a 1v1 duel, in which the characters use everything they have, who would win?

The most powerful

When Zoro fights, in all his duels that we have seen in the manga, does he only use his swordsman techniques and skills, or does he also use his stamina, strength, defense, speed and haki?

He uses everything he has, his skills as a swordsman, his physical stats and his haki.


To be the most powerful swordsman in the world, should you use everything you have or limit yourself to using only your swordsmanship?

You must use everything you have, otherwise it would not be a duel, it would be a competition to measure skill with the sword.

 

[HA001]

''Concession accepted''. You learned that from me then you cried to write more you know your superior is right again, remember your Gaban L. If you think saying Oden > Roger and Oden > WB isn't the end of debate and isn't losing you need mental help Lik, ZKK damaged you even worse than I expected.


I go by panels LA01 of 1000 Ls, you remember saying apprentice Shanks was fodder and running away after ZKK? You should stfu about power levels, don't run your mouth about power levels ever again lmao.

Panels:

- Mihawk saying no alcohol before learning Haki: you can't run your mouth about Zolo not drinking alcohol for 2 years because you know Zolo learned Haki first then they trained for sword skill.
- Rayleigh as a non-DF user taught Luffy DF skill. Ray should've no business showing Luffy DF skill but even he did that. You believing swordsman not making another swordsman skill better is simply desperate lmao.

None of those are points lmfao

WE DONT KNOW HOW LONG ZORO WENT WITHOUT DRINKING

Show me proof

Ray is irrelevant here again

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR OPINION

Bring me panel proof

 

[Erkan12]

Remember Gaban all you want if it helps you sleep but concession can only be accepted when all points are addressed and debunked and the opposition has no response other than repeating headcanons. That is your fate when debating me because I always stick to facts.

Feel free to prove me wrong about Oden>WB/Roger.
See if it will go better than proving me wrong about Zoro and Mihawk being the strongest hakimen in the show.

I am serious, how can I take someone who says Oden > Roger/WB serious? Be silent ZKKcrybaby.

None of those are points lmfao

WE DONT KNOW HOW LONG ZORO WENT WITHOUT DRINKING

Show me proof

Ray is irrelevant here again

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR OPINION

Bring me panel proof

Thats not an opinion. Thats a fact UNLESS you say Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years since you believe Mihawk show Zolo Haki only lmao.
Ray isn't irrelevant, that also gives us an idea how detailed their training can be.
You need to show proof he only show Haki and nothing else. You were talking like this about apprentice Shanks being fodder as well then you took the L again, you never learn your lesson.