Powers & Abilities Haki specialist

[nik87]

Pathetic ZKK delusion as usual, same troll who believed Gaban background character.

Oden talked about Oden style, his style is best not he is strongest overall. Oden is also not objective source, Sento also sees Admiral and Rayleigh, still says his defense is strongest LMAO, easy to debunk the Lik of 1000 Ls.
Teach with no DF scarred Shanks, doesn't mean Teach has better Haki, pathetic argument.

Oden lose to Kaido, and Kaido wasn't prime WSC as well.

WB didn't go after Kaido because of casulties, Oden had no choice he was dancing on the street to prevent casulties then he fought Kaido. Debunked easy again.

Oden said WB is stronger, and no reason for the gap getting even closer when WB was declared strongest over your idol Mihawk later. So you can keep crying all you want Lik you took the L again.

Do not cry when faced with manga facts from credible characters. Sentomaru is irrelevant, he didn't experience Roger and Whitebeard like Oden has. If Oden says that his combat style is the strongest it is because it is true. Provide evidence for superior combat style.
And try to use manga facts like I do instead of your headcanons, lol.

What a pathetic boy you turned into Erkek, comparing scarring Shanks to scarring Kaido. lmao this is what desperation looks like.
Manga wanks one of those two scars as something incredibly hard to do and it is not scarring Shanks.

Wrong, Kaido was in his prime. And Oden losing to Kaido helps you how? lol
Wrong again, it wasn't because of casualties, he simply chickened out knowing full well Kaido is stronger and would wipe them all out.
He didn't have a problem with casualties going into far more helpless situation in Marineford trying to prove that when someone messes with one of them, they go to war but when it is Kaido, he chickens out. And Kaido literally killed his "brother".

What part of PrimeOden never said that WB is stronger didn't u understand?
WB was never declared stronger than prime Oden and the only time Oden considered him stronger was before his peak, before he obtained the same power - aCOC.
I told you Mihawk cant help you in WB vs PrimeOden but I guess you are simply that desperate because taking Ls has that effect on you?

 

[Erkan12]

Do not cry when faced with manga facts from credible characters. Sentomaru is irrelevant, he didn't experience Roger and Whitebeard like Oden has. If Oden says that his combat style is the strongest it is because it is true. Provide evidence for superior combat style.
And try to use manga facts like I do instead of your headcanons, lol.

What a pathetic boy you turned into Erkek, comparing scarring Shanks to scarring Kaido. lmao this is what desperation looks like.
Manga wanks one of those two scars as something incredibly hard to do and it is not scarring Shanks.

Wrong, Kaido was in his prime. And Oden losing to Kaido helps you how? lol
Wrong again, it wasn't because of casualties, he simply chickened out knowing full well Kaido is stronger and would wipe them all out.
He didn't have a problem with casualties going into far more helpless situation in Marineford trying to prove that when someone messes with one of them, they go to war but when it is Kaido, he chickens out. And Kaido literally killed his "brother".

What part of PrimeOden never said that WB is stronger didn't u understand?
WB was never declared stronger than prime Oden and the only time Oden considered him stronger was before his peak, before he obtained the same power - aCOC.
I told you Mihawk cant help you in WB vs PrimeOden but I guess you are simply that desperate because taking Ls has that effect on you?

''greatest'' same as WGS, not strongest:

Also, Oden isn't credible source, of course he will think he is best. And he is talking about skill, not power.

Zolo scarred Kaido and Zolo wasn't even top tier. Your Ls getting more and more

Someone weaker than WB stopped prime Kaido, who is Shanks. Debunked again Lik of 1000 Ls who thought Gaban is background character.

You need to prove Oden somehow getting stronger and WB doesn't, and prove Oden closing the gap between WB for no reason when WB is declared WSM, you can't.

You are a delusional ZKK L taker who also argues WSM WB isn't stronger than Mihawk but of course that destroys all of your pathetic title power scaling so you can't run your mouth about WSM title which stomps WGS pathetic title, so keep crying Lik.

 

[HA001]

Declaring himself strongest doesn't mean anything, Krieg says he is strongest, Sento declares his defense is strongest lmao. Show an objective source.
Leaving scar don't mean winning, Kaido counter attacked him right after plus Kaido wasn't in his prime as well.
Oden specifically didn't want help from Rayleigh, because he wanted someone from Wano to succeed, so thats for Wano statement only.
Oden literally said WB is stronger than him lmao.

All of your pathetic nonsense debunked.

Oden said WB is stronger and no reason the gap should be closed as WB was declared WSM over your idol Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.


What is this yapping? Anyone has ZKK translation? Attacks getting stronger with Haki so your point? LMAO. Every attack gets stronger with Haki.

Yes fighters need to learn Haki, as well as swordsman, as well as axe users, pistol users basically everyone who doesn't want to be fodder.

WGS is based on fighting style, based on skill. Not Haki.

If Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be WSM not WGS.
Roger wasn't WGS, he was WSM level, and slapped Oden around with Kamusari.
Zolo used named attack without Haki, proves WGS doesn't include Haki.

Stop crying, you know Mihawk or Zolo never having same Haki hype as Shanks or Roger.

Yes they do lerkan and zoro is getting stronger THROUGH HAKI LMFAO

Yes lerkan to be a STRONGER SWORDSMAN ZORO NEEDS STRONGER HAKI
To beat the strongest swordman he needs STRONGEST HAKI

No it doesn't. Zoro didn't beat Monet every one zoro beats now is because of Haki

 

[Sentry22]

It is not a sword skill, just like the stat of strength, speed, agility, defense, etc., are not either.
But to be the most powerful swordsman in the world, you need all these things, which is what Mihawk's haters want to deny. To think that the title is only having the highest skill with the sword lol

And it doesn't mean that the one who has more haki is more powerful, of course I don't agree with that. I defend that all stats, skills and so on have their weight, it is a sum, and the one that is the highest is the most powerful.

Even if we assume that Shanks has a haki superior to Mihawk, superior in all 3 hakis as well. But Mihawk is still the most powerful swordsman in the world. It means that for Mihawk's sum to be superior or at least equal, it must be superior in dexterity, strength, speed, etc. Making enough of a difference to make up for that difference in haki and win the fight.

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Best of all, what Lerkan defends, that Mihawk's title does not contemplate using haki, Zoro's fight must be without haki. If Zoro wins using haki, he will not be able to win the title, because he will have defeated Mihawk using something that should not be valid.

And of course, it is logical, since his way of thinking is that Zoro's title and dream is not to be the most powerful swordsman in the world, but to be the most skilled. So you don't need haki, strength, agility or speed, stamina, defense or durability. Even a talented child could be one xD.

There's a reason why there was never a conclusive victor between Mihawk and Shanks. Up to the point where Shanks lost his arm they were still competing. It wasn't until after he lost the arm that Mihawk no longer considered him a rival.

After which he went on to become a Yonko. Shanks didn't become weaker as anyone else in his position would have. He's grown much stronger since his duels with Mihawk.

You have to look at the context of how things played out. If you look at their portrayal you'll notice Shanks is treated very differently from Mihawk. Especially in Marineford.

As we all know Vista held off Mihawk in that battle. Same Vista that even with the help of the WB pirates couldn't hold off Akainu.

Then there's Shanks who made everyone including Akainu lose their shit :

 

[PurplePretzel]

You're addicted to arguing if you do this every day.

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[Sentry22]

You're addicted to arguing if you do this every day.

Being "addicted to arguing" refers to a compulsive pattern of engaging in conflict or disagreement, often driven by a desire for control, validation, or a sense of excitement. This can manifest as repeatedly starting arguments, difficulty resolving conflicts, and a preference for conflict over peaceful resolution. The underlying reasons for this behavior can be varied, including learned patterns, psychological factors, or even a need for the rush of adrenaline and dopamine associated with conflict

 

[Terra Arseid7]

There's a reason why there was never a conclusive victor between Mihawk and Shanks. Up to the point where Shanks lost his arm they were still competing. It wasn't until after he lost the arm that Mihawk no longer considered him a rival.

After which he went on to become a Yonko. Shanks didn't become weaker as anyone else in his position would have. He's grown much stronger since his duels with Mihawk.

You have to look at the context of how things played out. If you look at their portrayal you'll notice Shanks is treated very differently from Mihawk. Especially in Marineford.

As we all know Vista held off Mihawk in that battle. Same Vista that even with the help of the WB pirates couldn't hold off Akainu.

Then there's Shanks who made everyone including Akainu lose their shit :

The navy was already depleted after facing the gang and alliance of a yonkou lol. And you always say the same thing, that Shanks stopped the war. No, not just Shanks, Shanks and his crew, against the wounded and exhausted navy. They fulfilled their objective, they didn't need anything else.

Furthermore, Mihawk still has the title and is waiting for someone to surpass even his rival Shanks.

 

[nik87]

''greatest'' same as WGS, not strongest:

Other than wanting to prove to everyone that you were dropped on your head as a baby, is there another reason why you hellbent on taking Ls?
There is no difference between greatest and strongest in that context, same as there is no difference between WSS and WGS.
Oden didn't want to make the Scabbards greater, he wanted to make them stronger.
Zoro isn't greater in Nittoryu compared to Ittoryu, he is stronger.
I have plenty of examples that debunk your nonsense.
And you never answered my question - Did aCoC make Zoro greater or stronger? Time to stop running and answer it or running it is?

Also, Oden isn't credible source, of course he will think he is best. And he is talking about skill, not power.

He is far more credible than you are. Your own panel proves that Oden didn't think that he is the best when he sailed with Whitebeard, he makes the claim that his combat style is supreme after he has peaked and saw the world, fought WB and Roger. Manga fact.
Silly boy, skill is a part of Power.

Zolo scarred Kaido and Zolo wasn't even top tier. Your Ls getting more and more

Wrong, non-top tiers don't stand a chance at leaving scars at Kaido. Even top tiers like Rocks, Shanks, Big Mom, WB and Roger couldn't.
Non-top tiers arent capable of blocking combos of 2 Emperors. Zoro is simply built different and you keep coping because of him.

Someone weaker than WB stopped prime Kaido, who is Shanks. Debunked again Lik of 1000 Ls who thought Gaban is background character.

So many Ls in a single sentence, lol. Shanks is not weaker than WB. And there is nothing odd in stopping Kaido and King with full crew.
Gaban's lover of a 1000 self-sabotages.

You need to prove Oden somehow getting stronger and WB doesn't, and prove Oden closing the gap between WB for no reason when WB is declared WSM, you can't.

I don't need to prove it, manga already did. WB already had aCoC while Oden didn't. You are unable to put 2 and 2 together? lmao
WB is NOT declared WSM while Oden was alive. You do understand this manga fact or is it bothering you so much that brain stops working?

You are a delusional ZKK L taker who also argues WSM WB isn't stronger than Mihawk but of course that destroys all of your pathetic title power scaling so you can't run your mouth about WSM title which stomps WGS pathetic title, so keep crying Lik.

I know you are super butthurt because I keep debunking your nonsense and slapping manga facts in your face.

 

[PurplePretzel]

Other than wanting to prove to everyone that you were dropped on your head as a baby, is there another reason why you hellbent on taking Ls?
There is no difference between greatest and strongest in that context, same as there is no difference between WSS and WGS.
Oden didn't want to make the Scabbards greater, he wanted to make them stronger.
Zoro isn't greater in Nittoryu compared to Ittoryu, he is stronger.
I have plenty of examples that debunk your nonsense.
And you never answered my question - Did aCoC make Zoro greater or stronger? Time to stop running and answer it or running it is?



He is far more credible than you are. Your own panel proves that Oden didn't think that he is the best when he sailed with Whitebeard, he makes the claim that his combat style is supreme after he has peaked and saw the world, fought WB and Roger. Manga fact.
Silly boy, skill is a part of Power.



Wrong, non-top tiers don't stand a chance at leaving scars at Kaido. Even top tiers like Rocks, Shanks, Big Mom, WB and Roger couldn't.
Non-top tiers arent capable of blocking combos of 2 Emperors. Zoro is simply built different and you keep coping because of him.



So many Ls in a single sentence, lol. Shanks is not weaker than WB. And there is nothing odd in stopping Kaido and King with full crew.
Gaban's lover of a 1000 self-sabotages.



I don't need to prove it, manga already did. WB already had aCoC while Oden didn't. You are unable to put 2 and 2 together? lmao
WB is NOT declared WSM while Oden was alive. You do understand this manga fact or is it bothering you so much that brain stops working?



I know you are super butthurt because I keep debunking your nonsense and slapping manga facts in your face.

This guy is addicted to arguing. This Nik87 guy.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

This guy is addicted to arguing. This Nik87 guy.

aren't we all.
that's why forum exist lol.
" One piece manga discussion "

 

[PurplePretzel]

aren't we all.
that's why forum exist lol.
" One piece manga discussion "

Yeah, but discussions and arguments are different. In fact, arguments prevent the honest exchange of information.

To elaborate, it triggers the fight/flight/freeze response. Fight occurs when someone is questioned and decides to fight back and prove their idea, flight can take the form of someone deferring to the general consensus, and freeze usually means you just don't even bother to argue again.

All of these prevent the honest exchange of information.

 

[nik87]

This guy is addicted to arguing. This Nik87 guy.

Help Erkek out, the boy is losing his mind.

 

[PurplePretzel]

Help Erkek out, the boy is losing his mind.

My concern is actually that you have. I won't be saying anything more.

 

[kekaro]

19 pages

 

[PurplePretzel]

Nik87 replied like +90 times here. It's an obvious addiction.

Erkan may have one too considering he has about the same.

 

[nik87]

Nik87 replied like +90 times here. It's an obvious addiction.

Erkan may have one too considering he has about the same.

In less than an hour, you replied 4 times.
Seems like you are going for #1 spot, huh?

 

[PurplePretzel]

People who get addicted to arguing online do it because they've built an online persona. They're compensating for what they don't have in real life.

The more they do it, the more obvious it is. Post another 30,000 times, you nut.

 

[Erkan12]

Yes they do lerkan and zoro is getting stronger THROUGH HAKI LMFAO

Yes lerkan to be a STRONGER SWORDSMAN ZORO NEEDS STRONGER HAKI
To beat the strongest swordman he needs STRONGEST HAKI

No it doesn't. Zoro didn't beat Monet every one zoro beats now is because of Haki

Everyone need Haki to get stronger LA01 of 1000 Ls, thats why you don't understand simple facts run your mouth about apprentice Shanks being fodder.

''Named attack'': Daishinkan vs Monet, Zolo used this without Haki meaning Haki isn't necessary for swordsmanship. Haki is same for every other fighting style, it boost their power, its not special to swordsmanship, its for every other style.

WGS is a fighting style, being swordsman isn't being from a different race, its just 1 fighting style that someone can use out of many fighting styles like martial art and martial art also doesn't include Haki as well we see this Aokiji and Garp training.

Roger with best Haki wasn't WGS for this reason so keep crying about it.

This guy is addicted to arguing. This Nik87 guy.

Well he actually gave up but then I said concession accepted he got mad and started to write a nonsense ZKK essay once again.

Easy to prove; if Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be called WSM not WGS.

Zolo needs 3 swords to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, even 2 swords isn't enough, thats skill difference not Haki.

Kaido and yellow lights proves Zolo used CoC in Asura vs Kaido.

Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall (which has no Haki trails) is CoC attack just like Kamusari.



Meanwhile you taking Ls about Gaban, ZKK, and ACoC etc etc.

So all you have is headcanons? Pathetic.
When you find some actual evidence, let me know.

Not headcanon, all facts Lik boy. Concession accepted.

If Shanks had stronger haki, Gryphon would be the strongest weapon instead of Yoru - You failed to disprove Mihawk's strongest haki.
Zoro's main style is Santoryu, you didnt prove anything with it. The difference between Asura vs Px4 and Asura vs Kaido is Haki.
Kaido didnt prove anything, I showed you what it looks like when Zoro uses aCoC. You failed to prove the same on DeadMan's Game.
Oda never said Paradise Waterfall is CoC attack, we all can see it isnt being used and Oden having no clue what COC is years later.
As you can see Erkek, you are always failing when debating me. It is always entertaining to see you cope.

Lik likes to talk nonsense after getting debunked.

He literally argues Oden > WB despite its confirmed WB > Mihawk who he think Mihawk > Oden, yet he just wants to run his mouth and his ZKKfriends like LA01 approving his nonsense just because he is arguing against me instead of debunking it also encouraging him. ZKKfans should be exposed for their nonsense especially that coward LA01 who run after ZKK and lied many times but still runs his mouth lmao.

Other than wanting to prove to everyone that you were dropped on your head as a baby, is there another reason why you hellbent on taking Ls?
There is no difference between greatest and strongest in that context, same as there is no difference between WSS and WGS.
Oden didn't want to make the Scabbards greater, he wanted to make them stronger.
Zoro isn't greater in Nittoryu compared to Ittoryu, he is stronger.
I have plenty of examples that debunk your nonsense.
And you never answered my question - Did aCoC make Zoro greater or stronger? Time to stop running and answer it or running it is?



He is far more credible than you are. Your own panel proves that Oden didn't think that he is the best when he sailed with Whitebeard, he makes the claim that his combat style is supreme after he has peaked and saw the world, fought WB and Roger. Manga fact.
Silly boy, skill is a part of Power.



Wrong, non-top tiers don't stand a chance at leaving scars at Kaido. Even top tiers like Rocks, Shanks, Big Mom, WB and Roger couldn't.
Non-top tiers arent capable of blocking combos of 2 Emperors. Zoro is simply built different and you keep coping because of him.



So many Ls in a single sentence, lol. Shanks is not weaker than WB. And there is nothing odd in stopping Kaido and King with full crew.
Gaban's lover of a 1000 self-sabotages.



I don't need to prove it, manga already did. WB already had aCoC while Oden didn't. You are unable to put 2 and 2 together? lmao
WB is NOT declared WSM while Oden was alive. You do understand this manga fact or is it bothering you so much that brain stops working?



I know you are super butthurt because I keep debunking your nonsense and slapping manga facts in your face.

Difference is skill Lik of 1000 Ls who thought Gaban was background character.

Of course ZKKfans after reading +1000 chapters still belives Zolo doesn't win his fights with SKILL difference despite Zolo was incapable of winning vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci without using 3 swords style, even 2 swords isn't enough for him, they seriously believe Zolo has better Haki and physical stats than these guys but somehow Zolo need 3rd sword to accomplish his feats most of the time, can't do it with 2 swords and 2 swords Zolo is definitely weaker meaning 3 swords Zolo and 2 swords Zolo difference is simply SKILL difference.

Thats what WGS is all about SKILL, not Haki not overall power. Mihawk's skill, while Shanks or Roger's Haki is superior.

See;

- WB was WSM over your idol Mihawk, proves WB > Oden too but you are a liar ZKKfanboy you simply lie about it run from it.
- WB was declared stronger by Oden, but then you lie again about it that Oden got stronger but somehow ''WSM'' WB didn't get stronger if thats the case and you didn't prove Oden close the gap between WB.
- Then you make excuse about Oden scarring Kaido, NON-TOP TIER Zolo scarred Kaido, which debunked your lying ZKK mouth once again. But since you are a liar you basically say Zolo is a top tier now, LMAO.

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Everyone need Haki to get stronger LA01 of 1000 Ls, thats why you don't understand simple facts run your mouth about apprentice Shanks being fodder.

''Named attack'': Daishinkan vs Monet, Zolo used this without Haki meaning Haki isn't necessary for swordsmanship. Haki is same for every other fighting style, it boost their power, its not special to swordsmanship, its for every other style.

WGS is a fighting style, being swordsman isn't being from a different race, its just 1 fighting style that someone can use out of many fighting styles like martial art and martial art also doesn't include Haki as well we see this Aokiji and Garp training.

And to be the strongest swordsman in the world, you need all that xD
That all this is what you don't understand.

To be the most skilled swordsman in the world, you don't need haki, strength, defense, stamina, or speed. BUT to be the "strongest swordsman in the world", which is Mihawk's title and Zoro's dream. In addition to being skilled with the sword, you need to improve your haki, your strength, your stamina, speed, etc. To be more powerful in general than your rival and be able to defeat him xD

 

[nik87]

Difference is skill Lik of 1000 Ls who thought Gaban was background character.

Mihawk being stronger than all others because of skill changes anything? You are back to bargaining stage.

Of course ZKKfans after reading +1000 chapters still belives Zolo doesn't win his fights with SKILL difference despite Zolo was incapable of winning vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci without using 3 swords style, even 2 swords isn't enough for him, they seriously believe Zolo has better Haki and physical stats than these guys but somehow Zolo always need 3rd sword to accomplish his feats most of the time, can't do it with 2 swords and 2 swords Zolo is definitely weaker meaning 3 swords Zolo and 2 swords Zolo difference is simply SKILL difference.

Only little boy Erkek can read 1000+ chapters and think Zoro improves skill while 99% of power ups were haki.

Thats what WGS is all about SKILL, not Haki not overall power. Mihawk's skill, while Shanks or Roger's Haki is superior.

Tell that to Zoro who improves only haki instead of skill to gain overall power.
Yoru is proof that Mihawk's haki is stronger than Shanks' and Roger's haki. Cry about it.

- WB was WSM over your idol Mihawk, proves WB > Oden too but you are a liar ZKKfanboy you simply lie about it run from it.
- WB was declared stronger by Oden, but then you lie again about it that Oden got stronger but somehow ''WSM'' WB didn't get stronger if thats the case and you didn't prove Oden close the gap between WB.
- Then you make excuse about Oden scarring Kaido, NON-TOP TIER Zolo scarred Kaido, which debunked your lying ZKK mouth once again. But since you are a liar you basically say Zolo is a top tier now, LMAO.

-I told you WSM vs WSS is above the paygrade of your IQ.
-There is no proof of WB>primeOden, that is your wishful thinking. You are aware of this perfectly, that's why you keep coping.
-WB was never declared stronger than prime Oden. It was Oden who was missing aCoC, not Whitebeard. lmao
-Silly boy Erkek, Zoro was a top tier when he left Mihawk's island, that's why equal portrayal with an Admiral back in Dressrosa, lol.
Only the strongest people in the world are capable of scarring Kaido. WB was simply not strong enough to match Oden/Zoro.

And you ran away from the question - did aCoC make Zoro greater or stronger?