Powers & Abilities Has Luffy mastered G4

[Monkey D Theories]

The tankman we saw at WCI was a special case, it wasnt the real tankman.

I think current tankman should be able to perform on a similar level if not better due to ACoA

 

[Shura]

Probably yes he mastered it....otherwise he should pack up and go to east blue.....

 

[ZenZu]

I expect him to switch between forms smoothly, like pre timeskip he would use either G2 or G3, one at a time full body basically, post timeskip he can now use it partially and in sweet spots, same thing should apply to G4 in some sense. It's not even that he mastered G2 to the point where he constantly uses it nonstop, he just uses it in a much more efficient manner, gets all of its pros while minimizing the cons, if he was using it the same way he did pre skip, it would still be quite taxing I'd assume.

So for G4, the transitions should be much cleaner, where he can navigate in and out of forms as he sees fit.

 

[sanjikun]

People have been saying this shit ever since WCI started. "Oh my good, look how much his Gear 4 improved since Dressrosa" even though there was 0 evidence. Some guy even asked in SBS has Luffy improved Gear 4 because he could move after Katakuri, and Oda said he could always move and in DR he was just saving his energy.

Has it improved? Maybe. However, we have 0 evidence so far that it has.

I expect him to switch between forms smoothly, like pre timeskip he would use either G2 or G3, one at a time full body basically, post timeskip he can now use it partially and in sweet spots, same thing should apply to G4 in some sense. It's not even that he mastered G2 to the point where he constantly uses it nonstop, he just uses it in a much more efficient manner, gets all of its pros while minimizing the cons, if he was using it the same way he did pre skip, it would still be quite taxing I'd assume.

So for G4, the transitions should be much cleaner, where he can navigate in and out of forms as he sees fit.

Yes, the transitions SHOULD be smoother, but I'm wondering where the fuck would Snakeman come handy vs. Kaido? You could make the case, Tankman can be used to tank Thunder Bagua, but what is Snakeman useful for? The problem with hurting Kaido is not speed but his tough skin.

When people were saying pre-Kaido that he should use Snakeman, I said Snakeman wouldn't even tickle Kaido's balls. Lo and behold and even Boundman did almost 0 damage and it barely moved him off his feet when he wasn't defending.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Yes, the transitions SHOULD be smoother, but I'm wondering where the fuck would Snakeman come handy vs. Kaido? You could make the case, Tankman can be used to tank Thunder Bagua, but what is Snakeman useful for? The problem with hurting Kaido is not speed but his tough skin.

When people were saying pre-Kaido that he should use Snakeman, I said Snakeman wouldn't even tickle Kaido's balls. Lo and behold and even Boundman did almost 0 damage and it barely moved him off his feet when he wasn't defending.

snakeman could be used for its movement speed, which is imo greater than boundman. Basically Luffy could use Snakeman to dodge, boundman to attack, and tankman to block.

Now that luffy has ACoA, hurting kaido shouldn't be a problem, even if Luffy is using snakeman. He's not hurting kaido with pure strength alone, he's also bypassing Kaido's durability with his haki.

Lastly, Luffy could combine snakeman with G2 to increase its speed and AP.

 

[Rmstorm]

I expect him to switch between forms smoothly, like pre timeskip he would use either G2 or G3, one at a time full body basically, post timeskip he can now use it partially and in sweet spots, same thing should apply to G4 in some sense. It's not even that he mastered G2 to the point where he constantly uses it nonstop, he just uses it in a much more efficient manner, gets all of its pros while minimizing the cons, if he was using it the same way he did pre skip, it would still be quite taxing I'd assume.

So for G4, the transitions should be much cleaner, where he can navigate in and out of forms as he sees fit.

Luffy mastered full body Gear 2 during Impel Down and Marinford as was 50% close to mastering Gear 3 during the marineford war.


He grew a lot in the time between impel down and marineford. He haki also grew so strong that he was spazzing out.

He used Future Sight against Mihawk and he used the 2nd biggest blast of Conquerors haki in the series.

He affected elite marine soldiers with the range of his CoC haki being the whole of marineford.

 

[nik87]

Transitioning between forms is all nice and well but what purpose does it serve? Will he constantly be switching between fodder tier and possible top tier, against no other than Kaido himself?
Snakeman alone has very low AP and Haki blasting has yet to be shown how effective it is.

snakeman could be used for its movement speed

Based on WCI, this form is not intended for fast movement but instead for fast attack frequency.

 

[RYNO]

If luffy did get significant better with G4 I wouldn't surpise if its for the next G4 form being something crazy that would be unbelievable without more training with G4.

 

[MasterD]

Since g4 uses heavly CoA and with luffy learning how to use it in a more advanced and efficient way I think he might have master it or at least imporved it to the point where it doesn't take him that much to use so the time usage must have grown

 

[Finalbeta]

I feel like with his current level of haki he won't drain much, so he will have enough time to solo another low top tier by drawing from its full G4 potential.

 

[Sentinel]

Snakeman alone has very low AP and Haki blasting has yet to be shown how effective it is.

I think Snake Man could be useful by dodging Kaido's attacks.

Even though current Luffy has advanced CoA, Kaido still hits very hard (he even managed to knock out Oden with a clean hit) and it is debatable whether Luffy's barrier haki will be truly effective against him.

Therefore, switching between his G4th forms mid battle gives him huge versatility in attack power, speed and durability (Bound Man, Snake Man and Tank Man). Snake Man will be mainly used to dodge attacks, Tank Man will be used if Luffy has no other way besides to block or tank an attack with Tank Man and Bound Man will be mainly used to deal damage on Kaido.

But since Luffy conformably used Bound Man against fodder, I can think of a new G4th form Luffy is going to use against Kaido but that's another thing.

 

[nik87]

I think Snake Man could be useful by dodging Kaido's attacks.
Even though current Luffy has advanced CoA, Kaido still hits very hard (he even managed to knock out Oden with a clean hit) and it is debatable whether Luffy's barrier haki will be truly effective against him.
Therefore, switching between his G4th forms mid battle gives him huge versatility in attack power, speed and durability (Bound Man, Snake Man and Tank Man). Snake Man will be mainly used to dodge attacks, Tank Man will be used if Luffy has no other way besides to block or tank an attack with Tank Man and Bound Man will be mainly used to deal damage on Kaido.
But since Luffy conformably used Bound Man against fodder, I can think of a new G4th form Luffy is going to use against Kaido but that's another thing.

You could be right but switching between 3 still requires Haki which is a limited resource unless the plot simply ignores that. Canceling G4 against Kaido means death but since there are other combatants which will be ganging up on Kaido at the same time it could be tolerated.
I dont know about new G4 form, he has everything covered: attack speed(and presumed movement speed) with Snakeman, attack power with Boundman and if Tankman is a real thing doable without Cracker's biscuits, he has tankiness as well.

 

[Gran D. Master]

If Zoro mastered Enma just because he cut up a fucking bamboo without passing out then Luffy mastered G4 with the first punch he threw against Doflamingo in that form

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

But since Luffy conformably used Bound Man against fodder, I can think of a new G4th form Luffy is going to use against Kaido but that's another thing.

He's going to use Tank-Man's true form.

 

[Finalbeta]

He's going to use Tank-Man's true form.

I feel so. I don't see many talks about that form. People focus just on Boundman and Snakeman too much, but Tankman is very useful as a protection against powerful strikes, and even to counter them.

 

[Talkshit D Gethit]

Gear 4 relies on haki to keep the air inside and change/ maintain shape, as well as use compression to increase attacks.

It uses Haki constantly,
Advanced Armament Haki takes haki from the parts not needed inside Luffy's body, and expels it. VIZ

1)Is Luffy not then using all of his haki in his body when combining Gear 4 with Advanced Haki?

2)How can luffy be wasting haki in Gear 4 when it uses haki constantly?

3) This would mean Luffy has less time in Gear 4 not more.

Oda was on drugs when he made Gear 4. The man does not know what he is doing.

I thought the shockwave type coa was done by using the haki that's around him or leaking out ?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I feel so. I don't see many talks about that form. People focus just on Boundman and Snakeman too much, but Tankman is very useful as a protection against powerful strikes, and even to counter them.

imo tankman> boundman

Luffy can use every single move in tankman that he's shown in boundman, but now his defenses are off the charts and has access to moves like canon ball, which rival KKG in terms of DC

Like Luffy took zero damage from cracker's strongest move. That's like Big Mom levels of durability

 

[ZenZu]

Yes, the transitions SHOULD be smoother, but I'm wondering where the fuck would Snakeman come handy vs. Kaido? You could make the case, Tankman can be used to tank Thunder Bagua, but what is Snakeman useful for? The problem with hurting Kaido is not speed but his tough skin.

When people were saying pre-Kaido that he should use Snakeman, I said Snakeman wouldn't even tickle Kaido's balls. Lo and behold and even Boundman did almost 0 damage and it barely moved him off his feet when he wasn't defending.

I wasn't only talking about within G4, transitioning from Boundman back down to G2 or base seamlessly, conserving haki or stamina or whatever you want.

 

[Finalbeta]

imo tankman> boundman

Luffy can use every single move in tankman that he's shown in boundman, but now his defenses are off the charts and has access to moves like canon ball, which rival KKG in terms of DC

Like Luffy took zero damage from cracker's strongest move. That's like Big Mom levels of durability

G4 is a very versatile gear, the most by far. Combined with his new haki knowledge, he will be able to deal with a ton of circumstances now.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

G4 is a very versatile gear, the most by far. Combined with his new haki knowledge, he will be able to deal with a ton of circumstances now.

Its one of the reasons I think current Luffy is on par with unawakened kaido.

I mean despite G4 being as strong as it is, we still haven't seen the full potential of G4. We've yet to see gear stacking, which luffy used to beat moria, post-skip.
imagine G2+snakeman, G3+tankman, and G2+G3+boundman.

it would be insane. G2 and G3 gave Luffy a HUGE boost pre-skip. Stacking them on top of G4 would increase Luffy's strength several times over. And since Luffy has already mastered G2 and G3, he won't even have any side effects.