General & Others Has Oda treated the Strawhats well?

#22
they (OPisbetterposttimeskipfans)
I didn’t even know these people existed.

But on the other hand, post ts isn’t that bad, it’s just quite different. I can’t even comment about the crews chemistry because the crew itself is so far in the background that I don’t even care about it anymore.
 
#23
^ Bullshit. The OP is right. The way Oda treats some of the Straw Hats post TS (Robin from assassin interested in world history into background NPC that can translate Poneglyph, Chopper from dependable small ally into scaredy mascot, Nami the cunning Cat Burglar into scaredy cat, Sanji the Mr. Hunter and Mr. Prince into Mr. Kidnapped and Mrs. Princess in Distress) are indeed shitty, as shitty as Guts' post in powerscaling.
Well sanji was up against a yonko tbh, it’s not his fault he felt hopeless. The SHs would have died if Pedro and pound didn’t give their lives
 
#24
treated straw hat well = giving them fight
fuck off

They are great. I do miss silly moments in a chill situation, but overall sh have been nice.
brook doest gave me any good impression pre-ts but now we know he is a godamn mvp of wci.
chopper as a mascot is a lazy criticism. He try to step up his role, pre time skip he just follow the crew around... now he takes initiative (using mirror world, bringing big mom to luffy)

I do admitt Oda could give robin a llittle more focus

Again that is projection and some don't even know how OP was structured:

Here someone that knows how to analyze!
If you want more of the pre TS, well it will not happen.
there you go. although I would understand why you powerlevel braindead wont be understanding this video at all
 
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Inspector_Mu

#25
Only luffy and zoro need focus the rest are irrelevant . Robin Usopp and nami are okay
What exactly did zoro accomplish so far?
Who did he beat?

Luffy is way way above any strawhat
Stop being fanboys .... luffy is already doing what monsters can do, gaining advance haki, yonko candidate

The rest are given mediocre challenges ... their not even fighting for their own dreams anymore
" we are doing this for luffy "
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#26
What exactly did zoro accomplish so far?
Who did he beat?

Luffy is way way above any strawhat
Stop being fanboys .... luffy is already doing what monsters can do, gaining advance haki, yonko candidate

The rest are given mediocre challenges ... their not even fighting for their own dreams anymore
" we are doing this for luffy "
Give the holy Grandmaster time he knows when to strike, doesn't need to prove he's Mihawk's son
 
#27
there you go. although I would understand why you powerlevel braindead wont be understanding this video at all
Bro let them be I am here just for the laugh ... 90% of users know next to nothing.
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treated straw hat well = giving them fight
fuck off
Well that was all folks :D.
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What exactly did zoro accomplish so far?
Who did he beat?

Luffy is way way above any strawhat
Stop being fanboys .... luffy is already doing what monsters can do, gaining advance haki, yonko candidate

The rest are given mediocre challenges ... their not even fighting for their own dreams anymore
" we are doing this for luffy "
as @JerAx said ... mate read the damn structure, who should have they fought?

The damn allies need exposition, SHP already had ... it is not that hard!

Luffy needs to defeat Kaido with help, how the fuck would he do that if every arc needs fight fora all the allies and SHP?

It took Luffy 3 high tiers and guess what FM level means one-shot for Kaido.

If all the SHP had fight then we would be at Cracker level and not at let's go up against Kaido!
 
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Shura

#28
I can partially agree with you...Oda neglected Robin and Chopper.....but

Chopper could block the yonko punch even she was nerfed...and weak trio did survive the emperor chase which you can't brush away like that....

Zoro and Sanji got powerup .....

Franky as a shipwright is doing fine job....

Nami and Brook had some excellent feats in WCI for their level......

No need to say about Jimbei....

Luffy had so many fights because he has to be ready for Kaido first as gap between high tiers and top tiers is huge...so he was developed before other SH....

Robin is ok in Wano arc but her role is more important to the story....and I agree with you that Robin should get fights as she could stop Hakuba without any effort and could have defeated him very easily and all other SH should have access to haki....

Robin will be great as a fighter if she gets access to haki
 
#29
Robin is meh. Actually compare her portrayal since way back in Alabasta arc vs post TS Robin.

Alabasta:
*laughed when Luffy called Crocodile stupid
Crocodile was angry and said "Do you want me to kill you as well, Nico Robin?"
Only to be replied calmly "If it's what you wish then do so. But I have told you not to call me by that name again"
^ She was more badass.

Then when she was about to join the crew and Usopp interviewed her.
"What is your specialty?"
"Assasination."
She was more threatening.

Now she just laughs at cute and funny stuff like Kanjuro's drawing, acted as spy or damsel that needs to be protected by her stronger crewmembers (in FI arc when Hyozo about to hit her, and Zou scene in "what if people kidnaps Robin for her language ability?" moment".


Now for Chopper. He was dependable little ally. Clumsy, not as strong as M3 yet still quite strong and dependable.
Now he is scaredy mascot. Ok in WCI he shined somewhat during his little adventure with Carrot and he ended up smackdowning the talking alligator.
 
#30
I said it before back on Orojackson forums and i'll say it again here: if robin doesn't get her own 1v1 fight in Wano and doesn't get badass moments then im rating the Wano Arc a negative. I don't care how cool or badass everything else happens in the arc.

Wano should be the biggest arc post timeskip thus far where the fights are really important. There is absolutely no excuse for oda to not give her a fight. As a robin fan, ive been waiting for robin's only second true fight (yes you heard that right) like forever. The last time robin fought a meaningful fight was against yama back on skypiea, and that was before the timeskip, before water 7, before robin even officially joined the crew!

Since the timeskip: Luffy fought: doffy, cracker and katakuri, Zoro: fought Pica, Sanji clased with Vergo, Doffy and daifuku, Franky fought senor Pink, Brook fought big mom, ussop became god and got observation haki. Even Chopper got his moment when he valiantly protected the ship from big mom directly, and nami got a power upgrade from zeus and zapped.

JUST WHEN THE HELL WILL I GET TO SEE ROBIN SHINE???!!!

Ever since Punk hazard and Law got involved, the arcs have really been Luffy and Law centric, the rest of the straw hat crew get less panel time, moments and just fights in general. BUT, if there ever was a straw hat who really dosen't get enough attention right now its definitely robin. The girl literally hasn't been given anything, like at all. Sanji fanboys complain that Sanji didnt get enough in the WCI arc, AKA: The 'Years' of Sanji, but even without getting a real fight sanji still got more story and writing than his introduction arc, Baratie. Sanji's backstory was a told a second time so we can learn about sanji's family, sanji dodged a jelly bean from katakuri, married pudding, clashed with daifuku, surpassed zoro's bounty, he beat up luffy and got his first kiss. All in one arc. And there are fans who still weren't satisfiedveal.

Now just imagine my anguish and frustration that i as a robin fan have to put up with for what has been like 10 years now! And Skypiea, the last time robin fought a true 1v1 in, came out in 2003 in the manga, that was 16 YEARS AGO DEAR GOD!!!!! I started reading One Piece around 2008-2011, i've been waiting for a good robin moment and for her to shine for a like a goddamn decade already! Just how much longer do i have to wait Oda???!!!! Cyberpunk 2077's first reveal trailer came out in 2012, and the game will finally come out in 2020 next year, that is a 7-8 years wait, but robin fans waiting for a good robin fight have been waiting nearly 2 decades already, just how much longer do we have to wait Oda???!!!
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*(my emotions and feelings when typing this post)
 
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PeperLevi

#31
Chopper could block the yonko punch even she was nerfed
Wasn't a punch,was a Linlin/Prometheus's attack.
And stop of be a idiot fanboy saying "Linlin was nerfed" to downplay Chopper.
The fact is:the longer Linlin stay in food desire rampage,worse she got.
Chopper endured a attack of a Yonko in his worst state. A perfect start for who,here in Wano War,will make both Sanji and Jinbe looks like two weaklings craps.

Yes.Since the entrance in New World,Oda don't have been sharing the spotlights between SHs so greatly as before Time-Skip.
But it will end in future chapters.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#32
Wasn't a punch,was a Linlin/Prometheus's attack.
And stop of be a idiot fanboy saying "Linlin was nerfed" to downplay Chopper.
The fact is:the longer Linlin stay in food desire rampage,worse she got.
Chopper endured a attack of a Yonko in his worst state. A perfect start for who,here in Wano War,will make both Sanji and Jinbe looks like two weaklings craps.

Yes.Since the entrance in New World,Oda don't have been sharing the spotlights between SHs so greatly as before Time-Skip.
But it will end in future chapters.
Chopper too stronk
 
#33
The big problem was PH and Dressrosa, these 2 arcs.
Firstly, there was no need to separate the crew, it was a bad idea.
Secondly, Spending 5 years on arcs centered around Law was another terrible idea. This was the first time readers started to feel the strawhats are not so important anymore.

Oda created more characters than he can handle. The characters who had to sacrifice the panel time most are the strawhats bar Luffy.

treated straw hat well = giving them fight
fuck off
Its a battle shonen. Characters like Zoro or Sanji have very little to offer if they dont get proper fights.
So yes, giving them a fight is a big part of treating the strawhats well.
 
#34
Secondly, Spending 5 years on arcs centered around Law was another terrible idea. This was the first time readers started to feel the strawhats are not so important anymore.

Oda created more characters than he can handle. The characters who had to sacrifice the panel time most are the strawhats bar Luffy.
pretty much, law almost feels like another main character at this point.
 
#38
If Luffy the MC is constantly humiliated for 10++ chapters by a much superior character who can see into the future only to be magically able to match that opponent in base mode in the latest parts of the fight because of who knows what, theres no need to ask how the other chars being treated.
 
#40
I can see where you're coming from - i think the key issue is the splitting of the crew between Dressrosa - Zou - WCI

FMI, PH and Wano are proving true to the crews dynamics again. I think the issue so far has been all except Luffy have gone a long time without any panel time whatsoever which does irk me. Hopefully it doesn't happen again

They've all had their moments of focus
Luffy obviously
Zoro with Enma
Sanji and the RS
God Usopp
Nami and Zeus
Brook and the Poneglyph
Franky vs Senor Pink and Kyuin
Robin and the Zou Poneglyph
Jinbe joining

Chopper is lacking though

There's been plenty of times where they work together, but there's been less of the usual messing around and playing etc. compared to pre-skip. Then again, this is probably because post-skip arcs are averaging more chapters and therefore there's less travel panels by comparison
 
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