Break Week Has Oda treated WSS legit?

[LolonoisZolo]

since he did not call the man gold roger WSS ... I have no reason to respect this title

p.s

I know stupid wankers say to themselves : who else but Roger? I think he should have been
but no ... Oda had every chance to give him that title and didn't ... he have no plan to do so ...

soon it end up that world give the title of WSS to any one who turn his black blade or someshit
that's why Roger's era had no WSS

Or maybe there was a wss stronger than Roger.
Before the Revery we didn't know Rox who turned out to be stronger than Roger.
We will learn ''everything'' when the time comes but for now, it is a normal thing to see Mihawk > Shanks or any other swordsman.
The craziness is when the author says something and you people disagree... It is not an opinion, it is a fact so you either understand it and live with it until shown otherwise or read something else...imo

 

[Zowo]

Yes? That just means none of us know then. Though I'd like to see that sbs
Everything we've seen from the manga suggest Shanks is a swordsman though

D: What's the name of Red-Haired Shanks's sword? -P.N. Kooshi

O: Right. It's called "Gryphon." Shanks appeared in the first episode, but I had no clue how he was going to fight, you know?


He had no clue how he was gonna fight at the beginning later he made him a swordsman and mihawk s rival :cheers:

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Now that we know that Mihawk so far:

• has never been to Wano
• has never fought Yonko Version of Shanks
• Has not fought any top tier swordman
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman
• Was easily replaced by WG new Toys
• Isn't considered a Great Pirate
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as Yonko by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco

And we also see that no Strong samurai in NW seek or sought WSS title except Mihawk and Zoro,

Why and how exactly is this dude WSS? Was it cause he cut something bigger than mountain or harder than steel?
We know to be WSS candidate you don't need crazy 1v 1 Ws just Cutting feats can make you a candidate for WSS title.

So what do you guys think, has Oda done justice to WSS title and Mihawk ?

For me Oda has handled WSS stuff poorly,

@TheAncientCenturion @Kejon @Buusatan94 @Sentinel @Zenos7

Let me create an exact scenario for you to show yo uhow ridiculous you sound

• has never been to Wano
• has never fought WSS Version of Mihawh
• Has not fought any top tier swordman
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman
• Was revealed as someone who snitches to Gorosei
• Isn't considered a candidate for WSS
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as WSS by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco
  
  

 

[Lion of Olympus]

My problem with Mihawk is his only purpose seems to be just to look strong and lose to Zoro eventually. He barely even has a character

 

[LolonoisZolo]

My problem with Mihawk is his only purpose seems to be just to look strong and lose to Zoro eventually. He barely even has a character

Which has nothing to do with his strength does it ?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

But look. He has a lot of hype, but ''only'' as a swordsman. We get it, he is the strongest swordsman of all, but he is not the strongest person.

Pretty close to it since being strongest swordsman makes him stronger than at least one emperor and one admiral.

 

[Kejon]

Pretty close to it since being strongest swordsman makes him stronger than at least one emperor and one admiral.

He is not stronger than Shanks.
He could be stronger than the Admirals, but even that I doubt.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

He is not stronger than Shanks.
He could be stronger than the Admirals, but even that I doubt.

How is that even possible, the world of One Piece puts Mihawk on higher pedestal than Shanks and recognizes him as strongest of swordsman and not Shanks while they clearly recognize him as a swordsman, in Zoros novel (canon) they were considered Shanks and Zoro WSS candidates.

If Shanks was stronger than Mihawk, why would Mihawk look down on him now when he was fighting him at his peak physical potential with both arms? Why didn't Shanks offer him a rebuttal when Mihawk called him one armed has been?

Why isn't Zoro aiming for Shanks when he wants to be stronger than every swordsman with no room for doubt?

It makes less than 0 sense for Shanks to be stronger than Mihawk, it makes negative sense.

 

[Ravagerblade]

How is that even possible, the world of One Piece puts Mihawk on higher pedestal than Shanks and recognizes him as strongest of swordsman and not Shanks while they clearly recognize him as a swordsman, in Zoros novel (canon) they were considered Shanks and Zoro WSS candidates.

If Shanks was stronger than Mihawk, why would Mihawk look down on him now when he was fighting him at his peak physical potential with both arms? Why didn't Shanks offer him a rebuttal when Mihawk called him one armed has been?

Why isn't Zoro aiming for Shanks when he wants to be stronger than every swordsman with no room for doubt?

It makes less than 0 sense for Shanks to be stronger than Mihawk, it makes negative sense.

It doesn't make sense because you don't want it to make sense. It's just confirmation bias on your part.
Mihawk's pride gets the best of him because he doesn't want to lose to an one armed man, Or at least that's how I see it.
So he says bullshit.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

It doesn't make sense because you don't want it to make sense. It's just confirmation bias on your part.
Mihawk's pride gets the best of him because he doesn't want to lose to an one armed man, Or at least that's how I see it.
So he says bullshit.

Its not my bias, its canonically stated in manga that Mihawk is strongest swordsman in the world and Shanks a one armed swordsman belongs to that world.

What kinda absurd line of reasoning is that? Mihawk is afraid of loosing, same Mihawk who is desperately waiting for one eyed man Zoro to come and beat him?

Do you realize how bad this form of argumentation is, how fundamentally biazed and nonsensical it is?

This is my issue, not only is it an attempt to downplay Mihawk but to deny concrete statement in manga shown by Oda.

By statements like this you only prove me that anti Zoro arguments are some of the shittiest arguments ever.
Like why do you people do that, to defy every form of logic only to push an agenda?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Its not my bias, its canonically stated in manga that Mihawk is strongest swordsman in the world and Shanks a one armed swordsman belongs to that world.

What kinda absurd line of reasoning is that? Mihawk is afraid of loosing, same Mihawk who is desperately waiting for one eyed man Zoro to come and beat him?

Do you realize how bad this form of argumentation is, how fundamentally biazed and nonsensical it is?

This is my issue, not only is it an attempt to downplay Mihawk but to deny concrete statement in manga shown by Oda.

By statements like this you only prove me that anti Zoro arguments are some of the shittiest arguments ever.
Like why do you people do that, to defy every form of logic only to push an agenda?

Just because he holds the title, Doesn't mean there isn't someone out there stronger than he is.
Think Mr. Satan as Mihawk, and Shanks as Master Roshi. Just because they haven't gone for the title doesn't mean they aren't stronger. Can't believe this isn't understood.

 

[Kejon]

How is that even possible, the world of One Piece puts Mihawk on higher pedestal than Shanks and recognizes him as strongest of swordsman and not Shanks while they clearly recognize him as a swordsman, in Zoros novel (canon) they were considered Shanks and Zoro WSS candidates.

If Shanks was stronger than Mihawk, why would Mihawk look down on him now when he was fighting him at his peak physical potential with both arms? Why didn't Shanks offer him a rebuttal when Mihawk called him one armed has been?

Why isn't Zoro aiming for Shanks when he wants to be stronger than every swordsman with no room for doubt?

It makes less than 0 sense for Shanks to be stronger than Mihawk, it makes negative sense.

Shanks might be a swordsman, but that doesn't automatically make him inferior to Mihawk. As I said before, Mihawk and Shanks use their swords differently. Mihawk, like Zoro, would probably die for their blade and I just don't see Shanks doing the same thing. He seems to be more proficient at using Haki. His sword is just a tool he's using to fight with.

Mihawk didn't want to fight one armed Shanks, because of his pride. He likes fair duels, and doesn't wanna fight against someone who has a minor disadvantage.

Shanks doesn't have the WSS title, so he is of no interest to Zoro. Also, Luffy and Shanks have a strong relationship.

Shanks being a Yonko already proves that he is stronger than Mihawk.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Just because he holds the title, Doesn't mean there isn't someone out there stronger than he is.
Think Mr. Satan as Mihawk, and Shanks as Master Roshi. Just because they haven't gone for the title doesn't mean they aren't stronger. Can't believe this isn't understood.

And the argumentation got so bad, it hardly qualifies as an argument.
You seriously don't think before you type do you, to compare a gag character like Mr Satan who actually participated in judges contested championship to worlds perception of serious character like Mihawk.

Do you even know what Worlds Strongest Swordsmanship means? Its not a fucking structured, competition, you don't need to register yourself, to become WSS, you become so strong, the whole world recognizes you are the strongest, stronger than everyone else.

The moment you are a swordsman and you start getting stronger, you automatically compete for this "title", its not a title, its Mihawks identity, Mihawk is worlds strongest swordsman in NAME and ACTUALITY.

Zoro, the second most important character in manga who wants to get stronger more than anything else, so strong his name reaches heaven is aiming for Mihawk and not Shanks.

How can you even say something so stupid man, how can you under right consciousness make such a stupid comparison? How is that even possible for an adult to be this stupid?
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Shanks might be a swordsman, but that doesn't automatically make him inferior to Mihawk. As I said before, Mihawk and Shanks use their swords differently. Mihawk, like Zoro, would probably die for their blade and I just don't see Shanks doing the same thing. He seems to be more proficient at using Haki. His sword is just a tool he's using to fight with.

Mihawk didn't want to fight one armed Shanks, because of his pride. He likes fair duels, and doesn't wanna fight against someone who has a minor disadvantage.

Shanks doesn't have the WSS title, so he is of no interest to Zoro. Also, Luffy and Shanks have a strong relationship.

Shanks being a Yonko already proves that he is stronger than Mihawk.

What does way of swordsmanship have to do with anything?
Cabiji fights differently than Kaku and Kaku fights differently than King and King fights differently than Pica. Zoro wants to be stronger than them all.

Zoro is not interested in Shanks because Shanks is not the strongest Mihawk is.

How does Yonko make him stronger?
WTF?
what an actual fuck

What kinda garbage tier logic is that man?
Can you at least attempt to make sense?

 

[Ravagerblade]

And the argumentation got so bad, it hardly qualifies as an argument.
You seriously don't think before you type do you, to compare a gag character like Mr Satan who actually participated in judges contested championship to worlds perception of serious character like Mihawk.

Do you even know what Worlds Strongest Swordsmanship means? Its not a fucking structured, competition, you don't need to register yourself, to become WSS, you become so strong, the whole world recognizes you are the strongest, stronger than everyone else.

The moment you are a swordsman and you start getting stronger, you automatically compete for this "title", its not a title, its Mihawks identity, Mihawk is worlds strongest swordsman in NAME and ACTUALITY.

Zoro, the second most important character in manga who wants to get stronger more than anything else, so strong his name reaches heaven is aiming for Mihawk and not Shanks.

How can you even say something so stupid man, how can you under right consciousness make such a stupid comparison? How is that even possible for an adult to be this stupid?

It's an example. God damn Dude. It's not a 1 to 1 same thing.
Maybe you should look in the fucking mirror. Because your idiocy is pathetic. You wank the WSS title like no fucking tomorrow, It's not the best title in the series, Do you fucking understand that? You whine and bitch like a fucking child when somebody presents an opposing argument to yours.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Shanks doesn't have the WSS title, so he is of no interest to Zoro. Also, Luffy and Shanks have a strong relationship.

Why doesn't Shanks have WSS title? There is only one way to get WSS title, to be stronger than EVERY SINGLE swordsman in the world with no exceptions.
Its not a judges contested title, there are no rules, its worlds acknowledgement of your strength.

 

[Kejon]

How does Yonko make him stronger?
WTF?
what an actual fuck

Yonko > WSS. It's not hard to understand. Big Mom, Kaido, BB, WB and Shanks are all on a different level than your beloved character Mihawk.

Why doesn't Shanks have WSS title? There is only one way to get WSS title, to be stronger than EVERY SINGLE swordsman in the world with no exceptions.
Its not a judges contested title, there are no rules, its worlds acknowledgement of your strength.

Shanks isn't interested in holding that title. You know that.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

It's an example. God damn Dude. It's not a 1 to 1 same thing.
Maybe you should look in the fucking mirror. Because your idiocy is pathetic. You wank the WSS title like no fucking tomorrow, It's not the best title in the series, Do you fucking understand that? You whine and bitch like a fucking child when somebody presents an opposing argument to yours.

You seriously don't see how pathetic your argument was? An actual chimpanzee would provide a better example than that.

"Opposing argument" Provides an example of a gag character who competes for contested championship to world wide acceptance of Mihawks superiority over Shanks.

This is the state of anti Zoro fan base, and then same chimps like you loose your shit when Zoro fans get aggressive. This level of ignoran...never mind.
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Yonko > WSS. It's not hard to understand. Big Mom, Kaido, BB, WB and Shanks are all on a different level than your beloved character Mihawk.

This sounds like a load of crap, that goes against manga itself.

Shanks isn't interested in holding that title. You know that.

How does that even make sense? How do you hold a title?
Did Shanks announce to entire world, DO NOT call me the strongest?
Mihawk doesn't call himself the strongest, the world of One Piece does.
How is it even possible to be strongest swordsman and not be strongest swordsman? Its literally impossible and makes negative sense.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You seriously don't see how pathetic your argument was? An actual chimpanzee would provide a better example than that.

"Opposing argument" Provides an example of a gag character who competes for contested championship to world wide acceptance of Mihawks superiority over Shanks.

This is the state of anti Zoro fan base, and then same chimps like you loose your shit when Zoro fans get aggressive. This level of ignoran...never mind.

Fine Would Fucking Zoro being Nappa to Shanks Vegeta wet your brain?
You take things so literally sometimes it's a wonder you ever make do in the real world.
And again it's not a 1 to 1 idiot. I was saying While Mr. Satan is known as the Champion, There lies other people out there that Are stronger, If you can't understand that, Get the fuck out. You don't belong arguing when you can't get that.

 

[Kejon]

This is the state of anti Zoro fan base, and then same chimps like you loose your shit when Zoro fans get aggressive. This level of ignoran...never mind.

Judging from your comments the Zoro fanbase seems very unstable honestly. All these insults make you go crazy lol.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Judging from your comments the Zoro fanbase seems very unstable honestly. All these insults make you go crazy lol.

At this point, he's just crazy person who can't fathom somebody being stronger than his Hero. If titles matter so much then Yonko and Pirate King automatically Trump WSS.