Character Discussion Has your appreciation of the Straw Hats changed after the timeskip ?

#1
Has your perception and appreciation, or like/dislike of the Straw Hat Pirates changed ever since the timeskip and with how the story has progressed in the New World and with One Piece coming closer to its end ?
Do you find them as likeable, more or less likeable since the timeskip ?

What as a group, and what for each of them individually ?
 
#3
Every single one of them got simplified to hell as a result of Oda filling the story with unimportant and bland characters, that's why nowadays he has the urge to separate the crew every 3 chapters, even worse, some of the strawhats were simplified to a joke such as Nami who hasn't done anything other than searching money in the last few hundred chapters.
Pre TS strawhats were goated and seeing them interact with each other was priceless.
 
#4
The only SH that I actually liked more post-TS, namely in WCI, was Brook. His encounter with BM, stealing the poneglyph, crashing the portrait made him into dark horse MVP for me.

Other than that, 100% agree with folks that post-TS SHP <<<<<<<<<<<< pre-TS, primary due to flanderization and Nika wank. I miss the old times when we got a lot more focus on SHP as a group and thus they didn't seem one-dimensional.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#5
Pre-skip SHs are better versions.

They were the main characters and we had tons of crew interactions & character dynamics explored. The manga still had its soul.

Post skip has essentially been Luffy wankfest with a ton of additional side characters taking up panel time from the SHs, every arc.
 
#6
massively

jesus fucking christ, they are so shit, lifeless background fodder postTS

worst group of MC characters I've seen in any media
 
#7
The only SH that I actually liked more post-TS, namely in WCI, was Brook. His encounter with BM, stealing the poneglyph, crashing the portrait made him into dark horse MVP for me.

Other than that, 100% agree with folks that post-TS SHP <<<<<<<<<<<< pre-TS, primary due to flanderization and Nika wank. I miss the old times when we got a lot more focus on SHP as a group and thus they didn't seem one-dimensional.
Brooke MVP respect

Unfortunately Oda completely screws himself when he overcommits to world building rather than in depth character development. He knows that is his strength, but he does not appeal as much to an audience that is getting older and has more taste for emotional depth and realistic consequences.

But he has always said it’s a teen-young adult intended audience. It is unfortunate also that the depth of his social commentary and the richness of the mysteries are lost on the upcoming generation.

I’ll break it down though:

Luffy- Powers are more interesting, personality is worse, like seriously grow up at some point. It’s nuts that this irresponsible clown gets handed a power that literally makes him more of an irresponsible clown.

Zoro- More interesting, personality is similar, but becoming one dimensional

Nami- Better, but objectively less interesting as she gets further from her character arc. Plays a victim too foten

Usopp- Same, which is not good

Sanji- Worse, much worse. Only redeeming factor at all is the inclusion of this seemingly more dark and serious version of himself.

Chopper- Worse, gag is the second worst after Sanji, underused in serious circumstances

Robin- More interesting, but mainly because the story is more interesting and she is integral to it, I do really like her recent features and her gag is the funniest.

Franky- Same, which is not a good thing

Brooke- Much more interesting. Dark horse mvp

Jinbei- Remains underused, but glad he’s here

Vivi-More interesting, we will see

Overall, they are better fighters/pirates and worse people compared to pre-ts, but we as an audience have aged out of appreciating the running gags and antics. Oda painted himself into a corner by determining not to have legitimate, mature romantic interests for the crew. His own perversion and pervasive fan service, his general treatment of female characters is very disappointing
 
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