Current Events Has Your Perspective On The Marineford War Changed After Recent Events?

[kurwa]

Marineford was pretty fucking retarded. Oda had marines act like retards in order to make this "war" happen.

Aokiji could've frozen Whitebeard's entire army from the start. But what does he do instead? Freezes only the water and ground beneath their feeth on their ships in order to give them something to fight on... WTF?
Same with Akainu. He could've started his meteor spam right from beginning as soon as Aokiji froze his army and get rid of the whole army in like few seconds. Instead he only uses meteor shit 1 time...

In order for fights between admirals and commanders not look like rape, Oda always cuts off from them because otherwise admrials would have to smoke them in few seconds. Shit was like game of thrones season 8 war vs zombies, as soon as something happens- cut away in order for the character to survive.
Also don't forget the retarded shit that they need ran such small distance towards ace for 30 chapters... Aokji litereally at the start of the war jumped right near whitebeard but they are running towards ace for 30 chapters???

And the most retarded shit was- letting Blackbeard escape. Single most retarded shit I have seen in shonen both from marines and bb perspective. Marines literally can smoke him right there without problem, yet they let him fucking escape in order for this shit manga to continue.
And BB showed up like a retard between marines as he thought he was the shit when later he ran from 1 admiral...

 

[Blackbeard]

I’m just curious. Do scenes like this:

And this:

And this:

Do these scenes not definitively prove just how impossible the odds Whitebeard was facing were? Whitebeard’s entire crew would’ve been casually rolled like a joint and smoked by the three Admirals alone, and he still had Sengoku, Garp, all of the Warlords, Pacifista, and 100K Marines to deal with. What chance did Whitebeard even have in hell against such odds?

Sure, Sengoku told his men not to assume victory. This is just good leadership as you never want your side to just assume they will win at any competition. This does not mean Whitebeard didn’t sail all 50K of his allies into certain doom.

What do you guys think? What is your opinion of recent events?

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The panel where Sengoku was worried also quite literally explained what worried him, it wasn't because WB himself stood 0.1% chance at winning, it's because he had the ability to wipe out the world lol. He could've did a last "fuck y'all" move and sank Marineford killing most of the lower ranked Marines.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Whitebeard had no chance.

I don't get why the marines were acting like adding another Yonko crew or Rayleigh to the other side was gonna be a disaster.

Fake hype of the moment.

Akainu just dives in there turns awakening and he solo Whitebeard Fleet.

 

[Seatonnes]

3470 pirates vs 100k marines, commanders > admirals

 

[Seven7]

If Garp or Sengoku even flexed the war was over

Kizaru wasn't even trying as well


Akainu really was the only one really doing his job
and he had to fight WB with distractions from other pirates

 

[Dragon777]

Anyone with a pair of eyes could see that WB and crew hadn't a chance in hell to win the war. But not just today, even 500 chapters ago.

Oda had to force things beyond reason to present the MF war as a real battle, and still wasn't.

 

[Warine]

Akainu was falling to his death from an already mortally wounded Whitebeard, Akainu has a cowards luck.

Prime Whitebeard kills three Akainus

You ain't reading lil bro

 

[FriedLiver]

If there is one salient message concentrated into one page Oda would like to get across is that the admirals only got a clear victory once the commanders let their guard down

It is quite unambiguously implied that Marco and Jozu could handle the admirals comfortably up until the point they let their guard down.

The only scary thing about fighting an admiral is it requires 100% unwavering attention as they got one-hit attacks that are finishers.

Yet if admirals were an unstoppable force then Kizaru would have certainly defeated the Dark King but that fight was a massive pain to him. Garp also knew about the many rumours of Rayleigh’s staying in Sabaody, so you would think by now they would’ve captured him if it were that easy

though by no means is Cracker close in power level to Marco and Jozu.

 

[Reborn]

Yes, my perspective has changed recently.


Earlier, based on MF, I used to think a yonkou crew could atleast put up a good fight but WCI and not wano made me realise this isn't the case.

Navy with Admirals + FA + VAs would easily mop the floor with a yonkou crew. Yonkou alone can't do shit.

Add seraphims and Yonkou crew will be obliterated

 

[Cross_Marian]

The "Balance of the world" bullshit was weird af
The Marines + 7 Warlords >>> any Yonko crew
WB had no chance
Marine Ford as a whole became weird after the ts

 

[Patryipe]

I’m just curious. Do scenes like this:

And this:

And this:

Do these scenes not definitively prove just how impossible the odds Whitebeard was facing were? Whitebeard’s entire crew would’ve been casually rolled like a joint and smoked by the three Admirals alone, and he still had Sengoku, Garp, all of the Warlords, Pacifista, and 100K Marines to deal with. What chance did Whitebeard even have in hell against such odds?

Sure, Sengoku told his men not to assume victory. This is just good leadership as you never want your side to just assume they will win at any competition. This does not mean Whitebeard didn’t sail all 50K of his allies into certain doom.

What do you guys think? What is your opinion of recent events?

@SakazOuki @Blackbeard @MarineHQ @silverfire @Kurozumi Seven7 @EmperorKinyagi @scoobie3 @Veku @Playa4321 @Sentinel @ZenZu @comrade @AkainuTheGrimReaper @HA001 @Light D Lamperouge @ShishioIsBack @ConquistadoR @The White Crane @Kurozumi Wiwi @Chrono @kurwa @Extravlad

No.
Anyone except Yonkotards already knew that fight was a farce where the Yonkucks team had Luffy-level plot armor + PIS.

 

[scoobie3]

I'm saying since 10+ years that Akainu alone would have been enough against WB + his crew + his allies, so obviously my opinion hasn't changed at all.

None of the admirals took the war seriously.

 

[Kiiro]

Well, Whitebeard was not gping for a kill, he was going to save Ace so they couldnt use their full ppwer, but yeah, Marines were superior since always, after all WB was old and sick.

It would take 2 Emperors to have a chance against that military power.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Seeing how shanks low diffed Greenbull , a yonko in prime will devastate marine forces

 

[SkySanji]

Not really, if anything, old sick Whitebeard has actually gone down a few placements now that we've seen just how fodder the Admirals are, though, he was fighting three at once so you've got to give him some credit, but it's not quite the amazing feat that it was deemed to be at that time.

 

[Egghead]

When Kaido and Big Mom weren’t even confident they could beat Whitebeard and were obsessed with surpassing him and they had Admirals admitting they wanted no smoke, weaker yonko Shanks pulling up made an Admiral pee his pants

But lily little admiraL fans keep coping. When will you guys learn pirate king>> yonko >> admiral. Lets congratulate Kuzan being brave enough to invade totto land after Meme died as the weakest yonko has him on a leash

Only once or twice in a generation does an admiral have yonko level or higher potential: Sengoku, Garp and Sakazuki.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

If there is one salient message concentrated into one page Oda would like to get across is that the admirals only got a clear victory once the commanders let their guard down

It is quite unambiguously implied that Marco and Jozu could handle the admirals comfortably up until the point they let their guard down.

The only scary thing about fighting an admiral is it requires 100% unwavering attention as they got one-hit attacks that are finishers.

Yet if admirals were an unstoppable force then Kizaru would have certainly defeated the Dark King but that fight was a massive pain to him. Garp also knew about the many rumours of Rayleigh’s staying in Sabaody, so you would think by now they would’ve captured him if it were that easy

though by no means is Cracker close in power level to Marco and Jozu.

How tf cause Juzo snuck Akoji he can handle him. Lmao none of them can handle admirals

 

[FriedLiver]

How tf cause Juzo snuck Akoji he can handle him. Lmao none of them can handle admirals

Then for some chapters the bout between Jozu and Aokiji continued.

So why did Oda make a page overtly
emphasising both were taken down due to distraction? You’re going against the author when he tries to make it blatantly obvious that they only lost due to distraction

Yes the admirals were going to be the ultimate winners and win by attrition, but the commanders would have had more left in the tank, so in no way can you read that and come off saying “admirals low diffed the commanders”. Marco and Vista even forced Akainu to retreat far away from Luffy and Ace.

Then again, am I not arguing right now with some of the cringiest people on the internet, ie the Papazuki, Papamaki, people unironically using the term papa to talk about fictional characters.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Nothing has changed because it’s always been obvious to anyone who can read.

Even the trolling comments by the usual suspects in the thread are more pathetic than usual because even they know it. They absolutely hate it, but they know it.
It’s a better coping mechanism than Iam25 having a mental breakdown when “Navy & Warlords = 1 Yonko crew” was shat on by Oda though…

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Then for some chapters the bout between Jozu and Aokiji continued.

So why did Oda make a page overtly
emphasising both were taken down due to distraction? You’re going against the author when he tries to make it blatantly obvious that they only lost due to distraction

Yes the admirals were going to be the ultimate winners and win by attrition, but the commanders would have had more left in the tank, so in no way can you read that and come off saying “admirals low diffed the commanders”. Marco even Vista even forced Akainu to retreat far away from Luffy and Ace.

Then again, am I not arguing right now with some of the cringiest people on the internet, ie the Papazuki, Papamaki, Papa this and papa that crowd.

1. Literally everybody was getting distracted in that war. Its a war you clown you getting attacked from all over. WB tried sneaking Kizaru and failed. He snuck Akainu and succeeded. Marco snuck Akoji and barley did any damage similar to him fighting King and queen doing nane attacks and barley doing anything. While Akoji was dodging WB and about to stab him till Jozu. Kizaru dodges a sneak from WB and lights up his chest
2. When Admirals do the samething back Jozu gets packed up by Akoji, who only took a bloody lip from Jozu.
3. Noting puts Jozu wayy above other commanders. He couldn't even break out of Doffy parasite while G4 Luffy did. Cracker was fighting woth G4 Luffy while laughing at him. Cracker had to fight Nami who nerf him, Luffy and Homies.
4. Normal Commanders like Cracker,Jozu,Marco, Kat etc.. are not close to Admiral level. Only the special ones like Zoro, Ben, Sabo will be.