Versus Battle Hiruzen prime vs Pain

[Roo]

lol…. Pein was simply going to make it bigger while Hiruzen did not conclusively hit the Kyuubi on panel and had the entire village with him.

i already said i was bamboozled by the anime where he held kurama down lol

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Minato doesn’t know shit lol, he has never seen a rinnegan in action

he was literally watching the fight

 

[Welkin]

Why are we using the amount of clones Hiruzen can make to say he's stronger than Tobirama lol

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It’s awesome that two non canon sources have this, but the commentary is we’ve driven him out. It’s a team effort and none of it is due solely to Hiruzen.

We’ve can also just mean Enma and I.

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Minato doesn’t know shit lol, he has never seen a rinnegan in action
Nagato already wasted most of his power on destrying konoha and fighting eight tails

Are you drunk? Hiruzen is the master of clone jutsu, but still gets shit on by Tobirama

Tobirama couldn’t save Naruto from the god tree but Hiruzen does it casually.

http://imgur.com/a/aFPfWeB

And we have direct CANON statements about him surpassing Tobirama.

http://imgur.com/a/5VT42ws

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

We’ve can also just mean Enma and I.

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Tobirama couldn’t save Naruto from the god tree but Hiruzen does it casually.

http://imgur.com/a/aFPfWeB

And we have direct CANON statements about him surpassing Tobirama.

http://imgur.com/a/5VT42ws

If his former teammates, clan heads and a bunch of other Shinobi weren’t there I’d agree

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

If his former teammates, clan heads and a bunch of other Shinobi weren’t there I’d agree

Why is Enma so enlarged?

 

[Roo]

Why are we using the amount of clones Hiruzen can make to say he's stronger than Tobirama lol

we have used both in manga and databooks statements to prove he's stronger lol

 

[Seven7]

Disregarding Naruto and Hashirama who obviously are stronger than all the rest, how do y'all rank the rest of the Hokage? Just alive versions, so no BM Minato. Also omit Kakashi I guess.

God Tier
Co Hokage Madara




0. Filler Flashback Obito
1. Minato
2. Tobirama
3. Hiruzen
4. "6th" Hokage Danzo
5. Tsunade

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Why is Enma so enlarged?

Because He’s swinging at a mountain Lmaoooo

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Why are we using the amount of clones Hiruzen can make to say he's stronger than Tobirama lol

The point is that:
- making more clones
- saving Naruto from the god tree when Tobirama can’t
- DIRECT databook statements

All together heavily imply Hiruzen > Tobirama.

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Because He’s swinging at a mountain Lmaoooo

So he’s slapping the Kyuubi around with it.

Also, I refuse to believe that fodder was doing more work against the Kyuubi than Hiruzen.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The point is that:
- making more clones
- saving Naruto from the god tree when Tobirama can’t
- DIRECT databook statements

All together heavily imply Hiruzen > Tobirama.

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So he’s slapping the Kyuubi around with it.

Also, I refuse to believe that fodder was doing more work against the Kyuubi than Hiruzen.

He was using it, yes. The thing you’re lacking is that Hiruzen shoved the Kyuubi out of the village or did it by himself.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

He was using it, yes. The thing you’re lacking is that Hiruzen shoved the Kyuubi out of the village or did it by himself.

Anyway, back to my blitz argument.

Hiruzen’s shun-shin is literally shown to be relative to Tobirama and Hashirama’s.

http://imgur.com/a/btHFhPU

Doesn’t Pain just get blitzed.

 

[MonsterKaido]

nah just was going on a rant

Hate the Kakashi bullshit

I'd say the Hokage ranking is this
Naruto>Hashirama>Minato=>Tobirama=>Hiruzen>Tsunade>Kakashi

Same but I will rank tsunade ahead of hiruzen

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Same but I will rank tsunade ahead of hiruzen

So you have Tsunade > Orochimaru?

Cuz Orochimaru literally says he would get murdered by Hiruzen if he was even just 10 years younger.

http://imgur.com/a/ENADHSp

 

[MonsterKaido]

So you have Tsunade > Orochimaru?

Cuz Orochimaru literally says he would get murdered by Hiruzen if he was even just 10 years younger.

http://imgur.com/a/ENADHSp

Might is the keyword here. By feats tsunade is better.

 

[Roo]

So you have Tsunade > Orochimaru?

Cuz Orochimaru literally says he would get murdered by Hiruzen if he was even just 10 years younger.

http://imgur.com/a/ENADHSp

it was also implied old hiruzen could've stopped Orochimaru from escaping

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Might is the keyword here. By feats tsunade is better.

Bullshit, Hiruzen has reaction feats to Juubito.

Just one large scale elemental jutsu is enough for Tsunade. And if she uses 100 healings he can just seal her.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Bullshit, Hiruzen has reaction feats to Juubito.

Just one large scale elemental jutsu is enough for Tsunade. And if she uses 100 healings he can just seal her.

Lol Tsuande will kill Liruzen with one punch on his head. Sealing is equivalent of Double K.O.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Lol Tsuande will kill Liruzen with one punch on his head. Sealing is equivalent of Double K.O.

Tsunade can’t tag Part 1 Kabuto let alone Hiruzen whose keeping up with Tobirama and Hashirama’s shun-shin.

How does Tsunade deal with this.

http://imgur.com/a/8n5t3me

bEttEr feAts

 

[Roo]

lmao tsunade is literally the weakest kage by far. Even Part 1 Hiruzen looks like a god compared to her

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

lmao tsunade is literally the weakest kage by far. Even Part 1 Hiruzen looks like a god compared to her

@MonsterKaido Im taking Old Hiruzen over Tsunade let alone EDO or prime.