Versus Battle Hokage Minato vs Alive MS madara

Gol D. Roger

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KIsame can't handle a TBB. The most likely scenario was that Roshi didn't get to go full Biju mode against Kisme just like Bee. Remember, the biggest obstacle Kisame faced against him was his Yoton—meaning he never got to face a TBB. Also, his chakra-sucking abilities make him a bad opponent for Jinchuriki. You can't use that to say he's better than others in a fight. And this is a teenage Minato who needs to use hand signs for FTG facing two Jinchuriki. So there isn't much J-man could do here. If this is prime Minato, he'd have sent the TBBs back at them lmao.

ℍ𝕒𝕠𝕤𝕙𝕠𝕜𝕦 said:
I’m not that familiar with Naruto but this sounds like the equivalent of Isshin winning against base Hueco Mundo arc Aizen lol.
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Nah, Aizen was always stronger than Isshin, but this is a bit different. Madara was on the same general level as Izuna and Tobirama before EMS. Even if we're to restrict prime Madara to MS, he wouldn't beat Minato. Among those beneath Hashirama, he's clear of anyone not named Madara, or Nagato, and it's debatable with Itachi and Shisui due to genjutsu. Itachi and Shisui probably scale up to MS Madara if not better, and they only pose a threat to Minato thanks to their genjutsu prowess, at which they're both better than Madara.

Susano's no threat to Minato. Bro's reactions are beyond even EMS Madara, forget MS.
 
L o g i a

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Madara mid to low diffs this

Kurama compared Minato's talent to Hashirama's, not his ability.

If Minato was alive for 10 or so years longer and continued to grow in power, he could probably have reached the level of MS Madara and Hashirama, but for now he's nowhere near
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ℍ𝕒𝕠𝕤𝕙𝕠𝕜𝕦 said:
Is that an alt :gokulaugh:
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I’m not that familiar with Naruto but this sounds like the equivalent of Isshin winning against base Hueco Mundo arc Aizen lol.
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Not quite

Minato's a much bigger deal in Naruto compared to Isshin in Bleach. It's more like pitting Haschwalth against pre-SK Absorbed Yhwach (while Yhwach has the A Schrift).
 
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Gol D. Roger

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MarineHQ said:
Why ? Chakra sucking is pretty much the most broken ability in the verse as it can be used on anyone. Only downside for Kisame he can't absorb ninjutsu thrown at him like one would do with the Rinnegan.
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Well, your average ninja wouldn't go at him with a chakra cloak on, which would result in Kisame sucking their chakra dry, which, in turn, would result in him making the fish stronger. Kisame is better suited to fight Jinchuriki than most characters.
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Bob74h said:
that's because of how the jinchruki seal works
if naruto died then kurama would of died hence why he gave him his chakra so many times


it's not like kushina was going to out box kurama or beat him up
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She could kill him via Shiki Fujin too.
 
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Gol D. Roger said:
MS Madara ain't beating Minato.
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Finally a correct Naruto take

I want everybody to sit down and actually try to recall any MS Madara feats. Featless characters shouldn't be able to "low diff" top tiers like Minato. MS Madara in theory should only have

Top 5ish Genjutsu
Basic Susanoo

That's pretty much it. Fighting Hashi doesn't mean much if we don't even know the stage Hashi was in. It could've been pre sage mode and no summon Hashi
 
SakazOuki

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Roo said:
That's pretty much it. Fighting Hashi doesn't mean much if we don't even know the stage Hashi was in. It could've been pre sage mode and no summon Hashi
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Tobirama having developed FTG at the time should give us a good estimate
They were fully fledged adults and the leaders of their respective clans

Hashirama did have his Senju scroll
 
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SakazOuki said:
Tobirama having developed FTG at the time should give us a good estimate
They were fully fledged adults and the leaders of their respective clans
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That doesn't tell us much. FTG could've been in its infant state of development and we know for sure Hashi and Madara kept getting stronger as time passed so we can't even claim they were in their peak.


Fugaku was also leader of the Uchiha and is tiers below Minato(novels are non canon)
 
TheAncientCenturion

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Gol D. Roger said:
KIsame can't handle a TBB. The most likely scenario was that Roshi didn't get to go full Biju mode against Kisme just like Bee. Remember, the biggest obstacle Kisame faced against him was his Yoton—meaning he never got to face a TBB. Also, his chakra-sucking abilities make him a bad opponent for Jinchuriki. You can't use that to say he's better than others in a fight. And this is a teenage Minato who needs to use hand signs for FTG facing two Jinchuriki. So there isn't much J-man could do here. If this is prime Minato, he'd have sent the TBBs back at them lmao.



Nah, Aizen was always stronger than Isshin, but this is a bit different. Madara was on the same general level as Izuna and Tobirama before EMS. Even if we're to restrict prime Madara to MS, he wouldn't beat Minato. Among those beneath Hashirama, he's clear of anyone not named Madara, or Nagato, and it's debatable with Itachi and Shisui due to genjutsu. Itachi and Shisui probably scale up to MS Madara if not better, and they only pose a threat to Minato thanks to their genjutsu prowess, at which they're both better than Madara.

Susano's no threat to Minato. Bro's reactions are beyond even EMS Madara, forget MS.
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Cope, Kisame can handle it perfectly fine.
 
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