Controversial How A Certain Fanbase Reads A Certain Panel...

[Saint Figarland Garling]

Everything I said was facts. You have a hard time accepting that because you don't understand his character.

Mihawk was introduced as the character who doesn't use overwhelming power against weaker opponents. That is exactly what we saw during Marineford and explains why he fought at such a low level.

What would be the purpose to Mihawk quickly beating Vista when we they both know he's stronger? That would be pointless. Vista was surprised Mihawk knew who he was. The reason he knew Vista was because he is on the lookout for swordsman how has the potential to be a worthy challenge in the future. Since Mihawk is the champion he won't travel the world seeking challenger. It's up to the challenges to seek him, the champion. Remember, Mihawk is waiting for a swordsman stronger than Shanks.

The reason he postponed the battle was to test Vista's strength at a later time without any interference. They proponent the battle after the Marines start attacking everybody fighting on the ice.

I don't think I need to say this but strong swordsman can control their sword and attack power. We learn about that during Alabasta arc. I sword without subtlety is just a metal bar.

I don't have to write a wall to negged what you say. You're just in denial

 

[Cruxroux]

I don't have to write a wall to negged what you say. You're just in denial

Proceeds to slice off a mountain fuckin iceberg with a nameless slash. Lmao.

 

[Saint Figarland Garling]

Proceeds to slice off a mountain fuckin iceberg with a nameless slash. Lmao.

Yes, after saying no holding back, sending apologies to Shanks and wielding the black blade supreme grade sword Yoru against the wounded and hakiless Luffy...

Everything I said was facts. You have a hard time accepting that because you don't understand his character.

Mihawk was introduced as the character who doesn't use overwhelming power against weaker opponents. That is exactly what we saw during Marineford and explains why he fought at such a low level.

 

[Cruxroux]

Yes, after saying no holding back, sending apologies to Shanks and wielding the black blade supreme grade sword Yoru against the wounded and hakiless Luffy...

And proceeds to do no named half assed swing which destroys a mountain sized ice berg

 

[Malick the last Light]

Its peak comedy to me that people pretend Mihawk/Zoro stans are the ones that "misread" the panel you posted when it is LITERALLY hard confirming Mihawk is stronger than Shanks but clowns act like the cant read.

"Why did Oda not say Mihawk is stronger than Shanks?" HE DID! That is what he DOES in that panel okay?!

Why compare Shanks to Mihawk if he is not a swordsman? If Mihawk is merely "more skilled" and not stronger, why the fuck even have Mihawk be a character AT ALL instead of just making Shanks the WSS all along? I am sick of this song and dance by now. I don't buy any person makes it to that chapter of the story and still genuinely is on the fence or in denial about whether or not Shanks is a swordsman.

Zoro was making a literal Haki Dragon against Kaido on the damn rooftop. Haki-men? Don t exist. Its pure copium. Haki can make a Haki bird in the Manga too, if he uses Gryphon, his sword, to do it? He a SWORDMAN!

Mihawk has "no feats" like 99,9% of all top tiers in this story Oda introduced way to fucking early.

Hit me up with all of them Sengoku feats he has. Why do people push him to be PK tier again? Aside of one statement from Roger of him being “fun to fight” that is?

"Why did the guy that is called the Marine Hunter not help out the Marines more and one shot Vista? FRAUDHAWK" man, shut the fuck up you absolute clowns! Get new material!

Mihawk is LITERALLY the only Warlord that is expected to be loyal/do his job and slandered for not being good enough at it for some reason.

Kuma was the ONLY Warlord "loyal" to the Marines in the war, and he only did as he was told as we now firmly know because he was a literal brainless cyborg during the war. Why the fuck is it that Mihawk gets slandered over the whole Vista thing that happens more than a decade ago despite Oda EXPLICITLY giving us a reason in the story even why Mihawk might not help the Marines all that much via his Marine Hunter title huh?

Mind you, he should not even have to do this shit since AGAIN, all other Warlords do not have to deal with this stupid double standard.

Mihawk is the ONLY character in the story that has a higher bounty than his supposed superior and YONKO in the form of Buggy.

Why the fuck did Oda do that if he intends for Mihawk to be a fraud? If he intends for Shanks, his RIVAL, to be actually stronger than him? Why not just have Fuji/Shiryu/whoever the fuck the haters think will be Zoros true end goal kill Mihawk in the time skip? Why even include Mihawk in Cross-guild if he is this irrelevant fraud?

 

[CbShadow]

I don't have to write a wall to negged what you say. You're just in denial

You sure about that?

Or maybe the above scene doesn't really exist and I'm coping so bad I manifest that scene into existence.

Yes, after saying no holding back, sending apologies to Shanks and wielding the black blade supreme grade sword Yoru against the wounded and hakiless Luffy...

 

[MUUGEN]

Forged a black blade

& when was this shown or confirmed...

 

[MUUGEN]

Yes

A diamond defense, a top tier defense made from one of the hardest matter in the entire manga, was needed to stop his nameless haki less attack he used just to testing theory.

Mihawk easily fought a YC level character without focusing on his opponent without being hit. We have never seen a single other character in the manga capable of fighting a YC character or higher without focusing on them during the battle.

Mihawk easily cut through a iceberg, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral) that was the size of a mountain range with a casual attack. If BM or Kaido wants to generate an attack with that amount of power they would have to use powerful name attacks.

His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time.

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You left out the part where Mihawk wasn't focusing on his opponent from for part of the battle without being hit. A feat no other top tier or any character has re-created.

Why can't all these characters who's supposed to be much stronger than Mihawk re-create an easy casual feat?

wasnt mihawk hard focusing luffy with CoO and still could barely scratch him even with the intent to kill....

Luffy who was dozen of leagues weaker than jozu and vista..

Did mihawks attack that he used to try and measure his strength compared to wb come close of phase a yonko in fact it didn't even leave any mark stall on jozu cause mihawk is that weak.

Lol which YC are you referring to?

Iceberg that's not really a feat in fact shawks mountain buster slash when fighting Teach was for more impressive om Kuja.

yawn. Headcannon on a statement when luffy already knew he couldn't best any admiral it's why he went in with a log thinking he can bypass immunities and didn't directly attack them in fact he had to face them in order to reach Ace, mihawk got stalemated by a mere YC5 and couldn't reach luffy after that point...

pretty pathetic given the admirals were stopped by a YC1 & 2 respectively.....

 

[MUUGEN]

Yes, after saying no holding back, sending apologies to Shanks and wielding the black blade supreme grade sword Yoru against the wounded and hakiless Luffy...

Lihawk fans are so sore and only pick and choose which text in manga are canon and noncanon...

 

[mly90]

You sure about that?

Or maybe the above scene doesn't really exist and I'm coping so bad I manifest that scene into existence.

Mihawk could have ended series right there if he wanted to man was toying with him whole war nothing more
He would never hurt any of them until they fulfill their potential

 

[CbShadow]

wasnt mihawk hard focusing luffy with CoO and still could barely scratch him even with the intent to kill....

Luffy who was dozen of leagues weaker than jozu and vista..

Did mihawks attack that he used to try and measure his strength compared to wb come close of phase a yonko in fact it didn't even leave any mark stall on jozu cause mihawk is that weak.

Lol which YC are you referring to?

Iceberg that's not really a feat in fact shawks mountain buster slash when fighting Teach was for more impressive om Kuja.

yawn. Headcannon on a statement when luffy already knew he couldn't best any admiral it's why he went in with a log thinking he can bypass immunities and didn't directly attack them in fact he had to face them in order to reach Ace, mihawk got stalemated by a mere YC5 and couldn't reach luffy after that point...

pretty pathetic given the admirals were stopped by a YC1 & 2 respectively.....

Mihawk could have oneshot Luffy with his very first attack if he wasn't holding back.

Mihawk even had his eyes closed and was bragging about Luffy still being in his range.

Mihawk wasn't measuring WB strength. He was testing to see if a Yonko can be easily hit with his YC protecting him. One of the main job of the YC is to protect their Yonko. Yonko hardly ever leave their territory so even though WB was close to them he wasn't as close as it appears.

Jozu used his diamond defense, a top tier defense made from diamond, one of the hardest matter in the manga, to stop Mihawk nameless hakiless attack. Requireing diamond to stop a nameless hakiless attack is anything but a sign of weakness. It showed how powerful Mihawk is and a type of defense needed to stop semi-serious attack.

Jozu was never hurt in the manga while using his diamond defense. He was only beaten by admiral when he wasn't using his diamond defense and was distracted. His diamond hardness doesn't go down just because he's not a top tier. That's not how things work.

I'm talking about Vista. Mihawk easily fought him without focusing on him for part of the battle and Vista could not hit him. In every other series that is shown as a sign of strength but somehow in One Piece fans want us to believe that is a sign of weakness even though no other character has been able to recreate that feat.

It's not the fact Mihawk cut through a iceberg the size of a mountain range, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral). It's the fact he did it so effortlessly and easily. He did that while playing with Luffy. We've seen other people cut mountain size objects in half but all of them had to put much more effort and power into it. Mihawk using a little bit of power is equal to other characters using a lot.

His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time. That's not headcannon, that happened. Oda could have had Luffy make that statement about the 3 admirals and say nothing about Mihawk, but he didn't so get over it.

What is a YC5 level? That's just a term readers created. WB has 16 division commanders (YC). They all hold equal authority with Marco being the right hand man. Marco is the only one you can argue being stronger then Vista.

The problem that Mihawk face is for years fans believed top tiers couldn't be evaded, blocked, countered, hurt or blitzed by anybody other than top tier. Regardless of the level or amount of power they use. Now since that was proven to be false, fans make every single excuse when that happen to anybody except Mihawk. All they end up doing is just embarrassing themselves and show how bias they really are.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Mihawk could have oneshot Luffy with his very first attack if he wasn't holding back.

Mihawk even had his eyes closed and was bragging about Luffy still being in his range.

Mihawk wasn't measuring WB strength. He was testing to see if a Yonko can be easily hit with his YC protecting him. One of the main job of the YC is to protect their Yonko. Yonko hardly ever leave their territory so even though WB was close to them he wasn't as close as it appears.

Jozu used his diamond defense, a top tier defense made from diamond, one of the hardest matter in the manga, to stop Mihawk nameless hakiless attack. Requireing diamond to stop a nameless hakiless attack is anything but a sign of weakness. It showed how powerful Mihawk is and a type of defense needed to stop semi-serious attack.

Jozu was never hurt in the manga while using his diamond defense. He was only beaten by admiral when he wasn't using his diamond defense and was distracted. His diamond hardness doesn't go down just because he's not a top tier. That's not how things work.

I'm talking about Vista. Mihawk easily fought him without focusing on him for part of the battle and Vista could not hit him. In every other series that is shown as a sign of strength but somehow in One Piece fans want us to believe that is a sign of weakness even though no other character has been able to recreate that feat.

It's not the fact Mihawk cut through a iceberg the size of a mountain range, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral). It's the fact he did it so effortlessly and easily. He did that while playing with Luffy. We've seen other people cut mountain size objects in half but all of them had to put much more effort and power into it. Mihawk using a little bit of power is equal to other characters using a lot.

His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time. That's not headcannon, that happened. Oda could have had Luffy make that statement about the 3 admirals and say nothing about Mihawk, but he didn't so get over it.

What is a YC5 level? That's just a term readers created. WB has 16 division commanders (YC). They all hold equal authority with Marco being the right hand man. Marco is the only one you can argue being stronger then Vista.

The problem that Mihawk face is for years fans believed top tiers couldn't be evaded, blocked, countered, hurt or blitzed by anybody other than top tier. Regardless of the level or amount of power they use. Now since that was proven to be false, fans make every single excuse when that happen to anybody except Mihawk. All they end up doing is just embarrassing themselves and show how bias they really are.

 

[NikaInParis]

> Mihawk could've one shot if he wasn't holding back
> Mihawk: Apologies, but I won't hold back.
Makes sense to me

 

[CbShadow]

I know, it's another sad day for Mihawk haters. Tomorrow's a new day.

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> Mihawk could've one shot if he wasn't holding back
> Mihawk: Apologies, but I won't hold back.
Makes sense to me

Yes, please make it make sense.

 

[vikas]

Only reason Luffy Awakening is white is to avoid getting killed by Zoro

 

[Malick the last Light]

> Mihawk could've one shot if he wasn't holding back
> Mihawk: Apologies, but I won't hold back.
Makes sense to me

If Mihawk did not hold back, why when he cut Luffy did he not bisect half of Marineford since we know he can casually output that sort of power, and he EXPLICITLY aimed it at Luffy earlier?

If Mihawk was not holding back, and you wont accept "because plot" as a legit reason what in your warped logic does this mean exactly? Did Luffy momentarily awaken Gear 5 levels of durability and the attack that landed on him would have cut apart the island if he dodged?

Like, all bulshit aside, post like this are why I legit question at times if Mihawk haters actually read the Manga and or even watch the Anime. We KNOW Mihawk, no matter what he says, CANNOT have gone all out against Luffy because despite his wave cutting feat constantly being used to slander him? That feat alone would allow him to erase Luffy from existence, and yet he didn’t.

 

[NikaInParis]

If Mihawk did not hold back, why when he cut Luffy did he not bisect half of Marineford since we know he can casually output that sort of power, and he EXPLICITLY aimed it at Luffy earlier?

If Mihawk was not holding back, and you wont accept "because plot" as a legit reason what in your warped logic does this mean exactly? Did Luffy momentarily awaken Gear 5 levels of durability and the attack that landed on him would have cut apart the island if he dodged?

Like, all bulshit aside, post like this are why I legit question at times if Mihawk haters actually read the Manga and or even watch the Anime. We KNOW Mihawk, no matter what he says, CANNOT have gone all out against Luffy because despite his wave cutting feat constantly being used to slander him? That feat alone would allow him to erase Luffy from existence, and yet he didn’t.

Why doesn't any swordsman cut their foes in half when they're not holding back on panel? The manga would be filled with bisected people. Or do you mean to tell me no swordsman since chapter 1 ever went all out on panel?

We have it from the horse's mouth he wasn't holding back against (what we now know to be) fodder Luffy.

 

[mly90]

I wonder if Mihawk ever declared he would kill certain mosshead with his kokuto only to spare him

Maybe this goat doesn't always go through with everything he says especially when it comes to people who have already piqued his interest. Him sparing Luffy at mf must be such a shock completely out of character

 

[Malick the last Light]

Why doesn't any swordsman cut their foes in half when they're not holding back on panel? The manga would be filled with bisected people. Or do you mean to tell me no swordsman since chapter 1 ever went all out on panel?

We have it from the horse's mouth he wasn't holding back against (what we now know to be) fodder Luffy.

This shit is what I mean when I say Mihawk haters will never beat the "cant read to save their lives" allegations. Who the fuck said all that?

We FACTUALLY know what Mihawk at MINIMUM can do when he goes all out. People clown on Mihawk for the wave thing for well over a decade at this point so do not pretend you dont know that he can do more than what he did against Luffy. Mihawks "full power" at MINIMUM is not "scuff Luffy a bit and cause a small dust cloud when he pushed somebody back" in terms of attack power. Don t give me this “well, swordsmen don’t cut people apart” bullshit okay?

Genuinely, answer the question. What is it? Does Marineford Luffy have such high durability that he tanked a slash equal or greater than the one Mihawk used to cut the frozen waves since according to YOU Mihawk DEFINITELY went all out like he said? Or MAYBE (and this is BIG maybe so bear with me here) could his words mean something else than "I will literally use 100% of my power" and instead perhaps something more long the lines of.... this?

Because otherwise what damn story are you even reading? Why does Mihawk, a guy that going ALL out who failed to kill pre-skip Luffy, even exist in the story anymore and gets any focus by Oda AT ALL then and even include him in Crossguild? Why did Oda not just kill this YC5 or whatever the fuck people think Vista is at during the time skip?

 

[MUUGEN]

Mihawk could have oneshot Luffy with his very first attack if he wasn't holding back.

Mihawk even had his eyes closed and was bragging about Luffy still being in his range.

Mihawk wasn't measuring WB strength. He was testing to see if a Yonko can be easily hit with his YC protecting him. One of the main job of the YC is to protect their Yonko. Yonko hardly ever leave their territory so even though WB was close to them he wasn't as close as it appears.

Jozu used his diamond defense, a top tier defense made from diamond, one of the hardest matter in the manga, to stop Mihawk nameless hakiless attack. Requireing diamond to stop a nameless hakiless attack is anything but a sign of weakness. It showed how powerful Mihawk is and a type of defense needed to stop semi-serious attack.

Jozu was never hurt in the manga while using his diamond defense. He was only beaten by admiral when he wasn't using his diamond defense and was distracted. His diamond hardness doesn't go down just because he's not a top tier. That's not how things work.

I'm talking about Vista. Mihawk easily fought him without focusing on him for part of the battle and Vista could not hit him. In every other series that is shown as a sign of strength but somehow in One Piece fans want us to believe that is a sign of weakness even though no other character has been able to recreate that feat.

It's not the fact Mihawk cut through a iceberg the size of a mountain range, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral). It's the fact he did it so effortlessly and easily. He did that while playing with Luffy. We've seen other people cut mountain size objects in half but all of them had to put much more effort and power into it. Mihawk using a little bit of power is equal to other characters using a lot.

His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time. That's not headcannon, that happened. Oda could have had Luffy make that statement about the 3 admirals and say nothing about Mihawk, but he didn't so get over it.

What is a YC5 level? That's just a term readers created. WB has 16 division commanders (YC). They all hold equal authority with Marco being the right hand man. Marco is the only one you can argue being stronger then Vista.

The problem that Mihawk face is for years fans believed top tiers couldn't be evaded, blocked, countered, hurt or blitzed by anybody other than top tier. Regardless of the level or amount of power they use. Now since that was proven to be false, fans make every single excuse when that happen to anybody except Mihawk. All they end up doing is just embarrassing themselves and show how bias they really are.

It's called using observation haki yet he said his sword knows no bounds with intent kill luffy unless he just apologized to Shanks for no rewson...

yawn.

Mihawk postponed the match and still hasn't fought Vista....