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This shit is what I mean when I say Mihawk haters will never beat the "cant read to save their lives" allegations. Who the fuck said all that?
We FACTUALLY know what Mihawk at MINIMUM can do when he goes all out. People clown on Mihawk for the wave thing for well over a decade at this point so do not pretend you dont know that he can do more than what he did against Luffy. Mihawks "full power" at MINIMUM is not "scuff Luffy a bit and cause a small dust cloud when he pushed somebody back" in terms of attack power. Don t give me this “well, swordsmen don’t cut people apart” bullshit okay?
Genuinely, answer the question. What is it? Does Marineford Luffy have such high durability that he tanked a slash equal or greater than the one Mihawk used to cut the frozen waves since according to YOU Mihawk DEFINITELY went all out like he said? Or MAYBE (and this is BIG maybe so bear with me here) could his words mean something else than "I will literally use 100% of my power" and instead perhaps something more long the lines of.... this?
Because otherwise what damn story are you even reading? Why does Mihawk, a guy that going ALL out who failed to kill pre-skip Luffy, even exist in the story anymore and gets any focus by Oda AT ALL then and even include him in Crossguild? Why did Oda not just kill this YC5 or whatever the fuck people think Vista is at during the time skip?
you seem quite emotional at it as well
Yes, his swords has no bounds but Mihawk a swordsman master has perfect control over his sword. Strong swordsman only cut what they want to cut. Mihawk hit Luffy with an attack that only slightly cut because he did want to cause him much damage.
He apologized to Shanks in case Luffy's fate was not strong enough to help him survive.
We don't know if they fought over the time skip.
Who did WB beat before Marineford? Who did Kaido beat before Wano arc? Who did BM beat before WCI? Who did Shanks beat?
He apologized to Shanks in case Luffy's fate was not strong enough to help him survive.
We don't know if they fought over the time skip.
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Who did WB beat before Marineford? Who did Kaido beat before Wano arc? Who did BM beat before WCI? Who did Shanks beat?
WB beat Ace and Croc while driving the KoP Roger and was stated to have the upperhand against Shiki who 2v1d Garp and Sengoku... then we saw on MF with 1hp neg dif giant VAs plus his commanders alone were matching Admirlas...
Kaido: Oden, Moriah, Kidd Alliance Hawkins and Apoo,
Big Mom; 5yo defeated and killed the Giant Warrior and legend Jorl plus killing several other giant warriors, Mother Carmel.
Shanks: Decimated 3B Kidd and Killer, Treated Akainu and Entirety of Marie's as fodder with 10man crew, stopped kaido in attacking WB, neg diffed Greenbull film red showed kizaru and issho retreat from haki alone same as greenbelt, clashed and split the heavens with a healthier and stronger wb, as a preYonko has fought mihawk where mihawk has never won.
In fact the thing you are missing here is these Yonko have commanders which are all weaker than the Yonko and those commanders have beaten many so e everyone that their commanders can beat so can the yonko.
Kaido: Oden, Moriah, Kidd Alliance Hawkins and Apoo,
Big Mom; 5yo defeated and killed the Giant Warrior and legend Jorl plus killing several other giant warriors, Mother Carmel.
Shanks: Decimated 3B Kidd and Killer, Treated Akainu and Entirety of Marie's as fodder with 10man crew, stopped kaido in attacking WB, neg diffed Greenbull film red showed kizaru and issho retreat from haki alone same as greenbelt, clashed and split the heavens with a healthier and stronger wb, as a preYonko has fought mihawk where mihawk has never won.
In fact the thing you are missing here is these Yonko have commanders which are all weaker than the Yonko and those commanders have beaten many so e everyone that their commanders can beat so can the yonko.
Thank you for proving my point.
We learned about their feats or they obtained feats once the main arc that focus on them started. Mihawk hasn't had a main arc that focuses on him. Just an arc that introduced him and some minor feats here and there that is meant to give us a small taste of his power.
The manga never stated Mihawk didn't beat Shanks. Since you want to bring that up Mihawk treated the Red Hair Pirates like they were nothing when he arrived at their location. None of them dared to stop Mihawk from approaching Shanks. Mihawk called Shanks a one arm has been and nothing happened to him. They even poured him a drink.
Since Wano we have learned Mihawk used to call the Marine Hunter because he went after the Marines alone they couldn't stop him.
If you want to talk about power let me know when any of yokos can do the same.
We learned about their feats or they obtained feats once the main arc that focus on them started. Mihawk hasn't had a main arc that focuses on him. Just an arc that introduced him and some minor feats here and there that is meant to give us a small taste of his power.
The manga never stated Mihawk didn't beat Shanks. Since you want to bring that up Mihawk treated the Red Hair Pirates like they were nothing when he arrived at their location. None of them dared to stop Mihawk from approaching Shanks. Mihawk called Shanks a one arm has been and nothing happened to him. They even poured him a drink.
Since Wano we have learned Mihawk used to call the Marine Hunter because he went after the Marines alone they couldn't stop him.
If you want to talk about power let me know when any of yokos can do the same.
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Mihawk could have oneshot Luffy with his very first attack if he wasn't holding back.
Mihawk even had his eyes closed and was bragging about Luffy still being in his range.
Mihawk wasn't measuring WB strength. He was testing to see if a Yonko can be easily hit with his YC protecting him. One of the main job of the YC is to protect their Yonko. Yonko hardly ever leave their territory so even though WB was close to them he wasn't as close as it appears.
Jozu used his diamond defense, a top tier defense made from diamond, one of the hardest matter in the manga, to stop Mihawk nameless hakiless attack. Requireing diamond to stop a nameless hakiless attack is anything but a sign of weakness. It showed how powerful Mihawk is and a type of defense needed to stop semi-serious attack.
Jozu was never hurt in the manga while using his diamond defense. He was only beaten by admiral when he wasn't using his diamond defense and was distracted. His diamond hardness doesn't go down just because he's not a top tier. That's not how things work.
I'm talking about Vista. Mihawk easily fought him without focusing on him for part of the battle and Vista could not hit him. In every other series that is shown as a sign of strength but somehow in One Piece fans want us to believe that is a sign of weakness even though no other character has been able to recreate that feat.
It's not the fact Mihawk cut through a iceberg the size of a mountain range, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral). It's the fact he did it so effortlessly and easily. He did that while playing with Luffy. We've seen other people cut mountain size objects in half but all of them had to put much more effort and power into it. Mihawk using a little bit of power is equal to other characters using a lot.
His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time. That's not headcannon, that happened. Oda could have had Luffy make that statement about the 3 admirals and say nothing about Mihawk, but he didn't so get over it.
What is a YC5 level? That's just a term readers created. WB has 16 division commanders (YC). They all hold equal authority with Marco being the right hand man. Marco is the only one you can argue being stronger then Vista.
The problem that Mihawk face is for years fans believed top tiers couldn't be evaded, blocked, countered, hurt or blitzed by anybody other than top tier. Regardless of the level or amount of power they use. Now since that was proven to be false, fans make every single excuse when that happen to anybody except Mihawk. All they end up doing is just embarrassing themselves and show how bias they really are.
Mihawk even had his eyes closed and was bragging about Luffy still being in his range.
Mihawk wasn't measuring WB strength. He was testing to see if a Yonko can be easily hit with his YC protecting him. One of the main job of the YC is to protect their Yonko. Yonko hardly ever leave their territory so even though WB was close to them he wasn't as close as it appears.
Jozu used his diamond defense, a top tier defense made from diamond, one of the hardest matter in the manga, to stop Mihawk nameless hakiless attack. Requireing diamond to stop a nameless hakiless attack is anything but a sign of weakness. It showed how powerful Mihawk is and a type of defense needed to stop semi-serious attack.
Jozu was never hurt in the manga while using his diamond defense. He was only beaten by admiral when he wasn't using his diamond defense and was distracted. His diamond hardness doesn't go down just because he's not a top tier. That's not how things work.
I'm talking about Vista. Mihawk easily fought him without focusing on him for part of the battle and Vista could not hit him. In every other series that is shown as a sign of strength but somehow in One Piece fans want us to believe that is a sign of weakness even though no other character has been able to recreate that feat.
It's not the fact Mihawk cut through a iceberg the size of a mountain range, that required 2 top tiers to create (yonko and admiral). It's the fact he did it so effortlessly and easily. He did that while playing with Luffy. We've seen other people cut mountain size objects in half but all of them had to put much more effort and power into it. Mihawk using a little bit of power is equal to other characters using a lot.
His strength was hyped up beyond the combined powers of 3 admirals. Luffy stated Mihawk was too strong to fight during Marineford but not 3 admirals at the same time. That's not headcannon, that happened. Oda could have had Luffy make that statement about the 3 admirals and say nothing about Mihawk, but he didn't so get over it.
What is a YC5 level? That's just a term readers created. WB has 16 division commanders (YC). They all hold equal authority with Marco being the right hand man. Marco is the only one you can argue being stronger then Vista.
The problem that Mihawk face is for years fans believed top tiers couldn't be evaded, blocked, countered, hurt or blitzed by anybody other than top tier. Regardless of the level or amount of power they use. Now since that was proven to be false, fans make every single excuse when that happen to anybody except Mihawk. All they end up doing is just embarrassing themselves and show how bias they really are.
Blud is excited from mohawk stalling yc5 without looking and oneshotting a pretimeskip Luffy who's weaker then a vice admiral ( who Franky one shotted btw )
Yes, I remember the time Shanks, WB, BM, Kaido and Roger easily fought a YC without focusing. It was amazing.
Keep telling yourself beating rabbits with canons is impressive.
Kaido oneshotted yc1 Luffy when he got a bit serious, shanks oneshotted kid and killer as collateral. yet you get excited about this trash lmaooo
If Mihawk feat is so trash they would have easily recreated it.
I know. It doesn't matter because they are Yonko. Yonko get a free pass.
We learned WB beat Ace in Alabasta....
We learned Kaido beat Moriah and Decimated his entire crew in Thriller Bark.... so your point is moot. try again.
yawn.
you do realize Shanks and mihawk are actual friends for the last 20 years so yeah I doubt any member of RHP would mess with kihawk when he hasn't a tually done anything for them to attack him the same way Shanks treated WBP as fodder and knocked a few out when he boarded theMoby Dick but it's two seperate scenarios right? whatever fits the narrative for lihawk.
& the manga has not ever stated once that mihawk ever beat Shanks nor did he ever have the upperhand kinda wild given canonically confirmed mihawk>Shanks in swordskill so how come mihawk didn't outright win?
& exactly which marines have been confirmed to be hunted and beaten by mihawk absolutely zero, we know Z was a previous admiral and mihawk didn't beat him, garp, sengoku, kizaru, aokij, dragon, tsuru were all marines and high ranked VA or above and mihawk in over 20years gas not touched a singlemone, furthermore he has never even entered a yonkos territory to fight any top tiers, WCI welfare mihawk has never entered, Wano we learned mihawk has never entered, marineford we learned lihawk did not defeated any big wigs, he'll he hasn't even beat a fellow warlord...
& Shanks epithet is called The Observation Killer.... a one armed hasbeen that lihawk somehow doesn't want to finish his DUEL with even though it's canonically been stated Shanks strength did not decrease after losing an arm.
We learned Kaido beat Moriah and Decimated his entire crew in Thriller Bark.... so your point is moot. try again.
yawn.
you do realize Shanks and mihawk are actual friends for the last 20 years so yeah I doubt any member of RHP would mess with kihawk when he hasn't a tually done anything for them to attack him the same way Shanks treated WBP as fodder and knocked a few out when he boarded theMoby Dick but it's two seperate scenarios right? whatever fits the narrative for lihawk.
& the manga has not ever stated once that mihawk ever beat Shanks nor did he ever have the upperhand kinda wild given canonically confirmed mihawk>Shanks in swordskill so how come mihawk didn't outright win?
& exactly which marines have been confirmed to be hunted and beaten by mihawk absolutely zero, we know Z was a previous admiral and mihawk didn't beat him, garp, sengoku, kizaru, aokij, dragon, tsuru were all marines and high ranked VA or above and mihawk in over 20years gas not touched a singlemone, furthermore he has never even entered a yonkos territory to fight any top tiers, WCI welfare mihawk has never entered, Wano we learned mihawk has never entered, marineford we learned lihawk did not defeated any big wigs, he'll he hasn't even beat a fellow warlord...
& Shanks epithet is called The Observation Killer.... a one armed hasbeen that lihawk somehow doesn't want to finish his DUEL with even though it's canonically been stated Shanks strength did not decrease after losing an arm.
