Speculations How Can Devil Fruits Possibly Be Rare?

[NexusLord]

How Can Devil Fruits Possibly Be Rare?
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I realize that they are defined as being rare - but, let's really think about that for a second. Supposedly, there is a Devil Fruit of every *Thing* that exists.

Aren't there literally countless things that exist? Logically, there should be countless Devil Fruits, too. Even if we limit that to just the endless ways that humans can evolve, it's still an unimaginably high number of Devil Fruits. It's not like being struck by lighting. The probability of finding a random Devil Fruit must actually be favorable because of the sheer amount of concepts that are included in the all-encompassing theme of the fruits.

Think about it... we even have multiples of things like the weight fruits; the Ton Ton Fruit and the Kilo Kilo Fruit; the Chill Chill Fruit and the Snow Snow Fruit - the list goes on.

The world's not that big, either, and there's only a limited number of islands for them to grow on. It doesn't really make sense that they're hard to find, really.

 

[Moegara]

Let me help you out.

Here's your mistake:

Supposedly, there is a Devil Fruit of every *Thing* that exists.

That is not true.

Problem solved.

 

[Reborn]

DFS aren't rare

Finding them is in a world where islands are scattered over vast distances and it's not easy to travel

 

[NexusLord]

Let me help you out.

Here's your mistake:


That is not true.

Problem solved.

It is true, actually, and I said even if we limit that to just the number of ways humans can evolve it's still an unimaginably high number.

Vegapunk said the fruits are based on the endless ways humans can evolve.

Now, to challenge your bad reasoning further - what *things* are not included in Devil Fruits?

Paramecia covers physical attributes, Logia covers chemical attributes, and Zoan covers biological attributes. That's pretty much everything.

 

[Moegara]

Now, to challenge your bad reasoning further

I didn't make any reasoning. I simply pointed out what can be observed throughout the manga.

If what can be objectively observed heavily contradicts your subjective take on Vegapunk's words, then said take is wrong, and the problem is solved.

It is true, actually, and I said even if we limit that to just the number of ways humans can evolve it's still an unimaginably high number.

Vegapunk said the fruits are based on the endless ways humans can evolve.

Vegapunk said nothing that challenged our knowledge about what devil fruits exist.

This is pretty basic. You have been reading the manga (allegedly), so you know they are actually rare, and thus it's impossible for there to be an effectively infinite amount (which is what they'd be if your claim was true).

what *things* are not included in Devil Fruits?

Paramecia covers physical attributes, Logia covers chemical attributes, and Zoan covers biological attributes. That's pretty much everything.

This just reads like trolling, but I'll take the bait.

- That there is a category for "physical attributes" (which is not what characterizes Paramecias) doesn't mean that every single variation of physical attributes must exist as a fruit.
- That there is a category for "chemical attributies" (which is not what characterizes Logias) doesn't mean that every single variation of chemical attributes must exist as a fruit.
- That there is a category for "biological attributes" doesn't mean that every single variation of biological attributes must exist as a fruit.


Just ask yourself, are devil fruit users even close to be 50% of the cast of the series? No, they're a minority, and this is taking into account the story focus on the few places of the world where most devil fruit users gather, so devil fruits are extremely uncommon.

Otherwise, Kaido wouldn't go around creating fake, risky and inferior zoans instead of gathering actual zoans and spending a fortune on Doflamingo and Caesar. Otherwise, devil fruits wouldn't be considered a myth in the East Blue.

 

[NexusLord]

I didn't make any reasoning. I simply pointed out what can be observed throughout the manga.

If what can be objectively observed heavily contradicts your subjective take on Vegapunk's words, then said take is wrong, and the problem is solved.


Vegapunk said nothing that challenged our knowledge about what devil fruits exist.

This is pretty basic. You have been reading the manga (allegedly), so you know they are actually rare, and thus it's impossible for there to be an effectively infinite amount (which is what they'd be if your claim was true).


This just reads like trolling, but I'll take the bait.

- That there is a category for "physical attributes" (which is not what characterizes Paramecias) doesn't mean that every single variation of physical attributes must exist as a fruit.
- That there is a category for "chemical attributies" (which is not what characterizes Logias) doesn't mean that every single variation of chemical attributes must exist as a fruit.
- That there is a category for "biological attributes" doesn't mean that every single variation of biological attributes must exist as a fruit.


Just ask yourself, are devil fruit users even close to be 50% of the cast of the series? No, they're a minority, and this is taking into account the story focus on the few places of the world where most devil fruit users gather, so devil fruits are extremely uncommon.

Otherwise, Kaido wouldn't go around creating fake, risky and inferior zoans instead of gathering actual zoans and spending a fortune on Doflamingo and Caesar. Otherwise, devil fruits wouldn't be considered a myth in the East Blue.

I won't respond to you. I think you have issues.

 

[trav]

There are enough DF to fill a book with. Its not an unimaginably high number. Else the book would be massive.
As other pointed out the "problem" you speak off does not exist.

 

[NexusLord]

There are enough DF to fill a book with. Its not an unimaginably high number. Else the book would be massive.
As other pointed out the "problem" you speak off does not exist.

That book is about as thick as a dictionary. It's an encyclopedia, specifically.

They attempt to cover everything in such books.

The dictionary goes from A to Z and yet I'm sure it doesn't quite get everything and new things need to be added all the time - similarly to Devil Fruits.

With that said, the Devil Fruit Encyclopedia cannot ever truly contain all the different Devil Fruits that exist. It would need to be updated every few years to even contain recent information about them.

 

[trav]

the Devil Fruit Encyclopedia cannot ever truly contain all the different Devil Fruits

This is again an assumption. For all we know all existing Devil Fruits are listed in a book where each DF takes 1-2 pages. Therefor there are several hundred (if even) according to what we know.

I really fail to see the point to make this more complicated than it actually is.

 

[vikas]

They are rare is foosha village

 

[NexusLord]

This is again an assumption. For all we know all existing Devil Fruits are listed in a book where each DF takes 1-2 pages. Therefor there are several hundred (if even) according to what we know.

I really fail to see the point to make this more complicated than it actually is.

Again, I need to remind you that Devil Fruits evolve. They can't possibly have one comprehensive book about it. It's literally impossible due to the fact they change.

Consider the concept of myth fruits. They'd have to add new Mythological Fruits whenever someone started believing something, too. That's pretty random, isn't it?

 

[trav]

I need to remind you that Devil Fruits evolve

Why can you not get that this is headcanon?
Nothing suggests that DF reflect every imaginable concept. This is only in your head, mate.
There is already a very clear restriction made by Oda. Water DF will never exist.

 

[NexusLord]

What's odd is that you guys think there are only like 100 fruits.