Break Week How can you enjoy Kaido in Wano arc?

but after that logia helped him recover ... it wasn't a Haki attack
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I think Big Mom durability is up there as well ... her main power is duribality as she is the one with no scars on her body ... unlike other Yonko

but let's be real

you think if Akainu took 10s of Gear 4 attack while not using DF and Haki ... he would be fine in same level of kaido or near it?
or
if he jump 10 K while not using DF and Haki ... he would be fine in same level of kaido or near it?

I mean really?

while GARP was hurt by DADAN??????
Akainu with no Haki and DF ain't much different from Garp in that term
What? Which attack wasn't Haki?
 
And Moria was defeated easily, Kaido only lost some of his man, Moria was never equal to Kaido.
When it comes to Kaido's power level remember this

The rest I alredy explained in my thread so I don't want to repeat myself, read it carefully and you'll get the answers.
This doesn't say Kaido was at his strongest. No way Kaido from 20 years ago is what he is now. From crew, Status, bounty etc... literally everything has gone up for Kaido.
 
And Moria was defeated easily, Kaido only lost some of his man, Moria was never equal to Kaido.
When it comes to Kaido's power level remember this

The rest I alredy explained in my thread so I don't want to repeat myself, read it carefully and you'll get the answers.
I read it all, you misinterpret his character and or panels and form your subjective view. Doesn’t mean it’s not factually wrong tho, saying stuff like oh look how scared he was and “shitting his pants” when none of it happened is a huge detriment to people taking your subjective post seriously.
If there was legit manga panels of him acting scared of shitting his pants I would accept them wholeheartedly. I only deal with facts.
I’m as neutral as possible as I love both admirals and yonko. I hate kaido right now but not for the reasons you mentioned, as they are not facts but opinions/feelings.
 
This doesn't say Kaido was at his strongest. No way Kaido from 20 years ago is what he is now. From crew, Status, bounty etc... literally everything has gone up for Kaido.
Then I guess Oda again made huge mistake saying that no one in their generation can defeat Kaido.
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I read it all, you misinterpret his character and or panels and form your subjective view. Doesn’t mean it’s not factually wrong tho, saying stuff like oh look how scared he was and “shitting his pants” when none of it happened is a huge detriment to people taking your subjective post seriously.
If there was legit manga panels of him acting scared of shitting his pants I would accept them wholeheartedly. I only deal with facts.
I’m as neutral as possible as I love both admirals and yonko. I hate kaido right now but not for the reasons you mentioned, as they are not facts but opinions/feelings.
If Oden didn't exist would Kaido wait 5 years to attack Wano?
 
Jack losing to an admiral/former fleet admiral/ and strong vice admiral while sinking their ships and surviving is a huge feat tf.

Him surviving a litteral islland ramming him is also a huge feat, it was to show his resilience.

Kaidos intro said his 7 losses but then goes on to say he is the strongest and bet on him 1vs1.

Luffy lost a shit ton too by the way. Yet he will become the strongest.

People are too fixated on the losses.
He also failed to get Raizo.
Failed to get Ashura, Luffy, Law.
Failed to get back Doffy.
Failed in pretty much anything he did.
Who tf cares if he ''survived'' two admirals in a naval attack who he prolly tried to sneak on and took out two ships woohoo...Ace sunk multiple ships in one hit in Alabasta and Luffy survived 3 admirals on land in MF...
Surviving Zo's attack is only due to him being a fish and an ancient Zoan, how is that considered a W feat is beyond me.
Luffy for sure loses a lot but also wins a lot.
Do you have any win for Jack ? Except ''surviving'' attacks.
 
He also failed to get Raizo.
Failed to get Ashura, Luffy, Law.
Failed to get back Doffy.
Failed in pretty much anything he did.
Who tf cares if he ''survived'' two admirals in a naval attack who he prolly tried to sneak on and took out two ships woohoo...Ace sunk multiple ships in one hit in Alabasta and Luffy survived 3 admirals on land in MF...
Surviving Zo's attack is only due to him being a fish and an ancient Zoan, how is that considered a W feat is beyond me.
Luffy for sure loses a lot but also wins a lot.
Do you have any win for Jack ? Except ''surviving'' attacks.
He failed to get Raizo because the dukes were strong and were taking shifts. He was also fighting them and the entire minks alone while his forces got overrun.
im sorry what? He came to ashura to ask him where law and luffy where. He wasn’t going there to “get” him.
They also fought pretty even while jack himself wasn’t in hybrid. And kaido showed up interrupting the fight. Law and luffy were nowhere to be found till luffy jumped kaido and got clapped. So I don’t get this.
So you just repeat what I said? He failed to get doffy from a fucking admiral, a former fleet admiral and someone like tsuru. You think any other commander would’ve succeeded? Geez
And he still survived so that’s props to him for me. See I as how luffy got his ass clapped by kaido, him surviving those 3 is a better feat.

lmfao at luffy surviving the admirals, you mean plot shield activated and let the admirals just stand there while luffy ran away?
You think plot shield activates on a random like jack?
he clearly got attacked as he was bandaged up.
And lmfao at he only survived zou cause he was a fish and a zoan, bro that thing is the size of an island. Zoro and people on the same tier as jack would get destroyed or hurt worse I’ll bet.
So basically you provided nothing about how those things are Ls. Good to see people gere are Pretty consistent with disregarding logic and facts and just going off feelings and bias
 
Then I guess Oda again made huge mistake saying that no one in their generation can defeat Kaido.
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If Oden didn't exist would Kaido wait 5 years to attack Wano?
I keep telling you why he waited and you keep disregarding it, wtf. The manga told us he waiting to destroy his rep, thus diminishing his potential allies before striking. Why do you keep saying this?
Don’t bring hypothesis if oden didn’t exist or whatnot because they do not exist or matter. I can’t answer you that because I’m not oda. I am sure he would find a reason to have kaido wait.
After all akainu himself was wary of the samurai, and kaido repeated the worry by saying what he said.
 
He failed to get Raizo because the dukes were strong and were taking shifts. He was also fighting them and the entire minks alone while his forces got overrun.
im sorry what? He came to ashura to ask him where law and luffy where. He wasn’t going there to “get” him.
They also fought pretty even while jack himself wasn’t in hybrid. And kaido showed up interrupting the fight. Law and luffy were nowhere to be found till luffy jumped kaido and got clapped. So I don’t get this.
So you just repeat what I said? He failed to get doffy from a fucking admiral, a former fleet admiral and someone like tsuru. You think any other commander would’ve succeeded? Geez
And he still survived so that’s props to him for me. See I as how luffy got his ass clapped by kaido, him surviving those 3 is a better feat.

lmfao at luffy surviving the admirals, you mean plot shield activated and let the admirals just stand there while luffy ran away?
You think plot shield activates on a random like jack?
he clearly got attacked as he was bandaged up.
And lmfao at he only survived zou cause he was a fish and a zoan, bro that thing is the size of an island. Zoro and people on the same tier as jack would get destroyed or hurt worse I’ll bet.
So basically you provided nothing about how those things are Ls. Good to see people gere are Pretty consistent with disregarding logic and facts and just going off feelings and bias
The entire post is justification as to why Jack the L got his Ls lol
''Zoro and people on the same tier as jack would get destroyed or hurt worse I’ll bet.''
And it speaks about ''people disregarding logic and facts''
:milaugh:
 
The entire post is justification as to why Jack the L got his Ls lol
''Zoro and people on the same tier as jack would get destroyed or hurt worse I’ll bet.''
And it speaks about ''people disregarding logic and facts''
:milaugh:
Him taking an ''L'' against admirals and a fucking island is way better than anyone ever did, its a good feat that demonstrates his toughness. Not my problem you only see things as black(win) and white(lose)
I used facts and thats it, jack went against admirals and there was a battle, judging by his bandages, and survived. Luffy didnt fight no admiral, they just stood there and he ran past them. See the difference? Ofc you dont.

And zou, an wallking island, hit jack head on and he survived again. Thats a huge durability feat but you do you.

Dont call me an it again, its unsightly and childish.
 
Oda created an incredible world building and still failed to deliver, instead of spending time with relevant Wano characters like Kaido.
Kind of unfair to say when we clearly haven't gotten Kaidos backstory yet. We have no idea of:

- his Rocks backstory and relationship with BM
- his actual origins and how he formed his crew with the all Stars and numbers
- his relationship with his daughter
- why he even decided to use Wano as his main territory and why Onigashima was made into a what it is today.
 
Him taking an ''L'' against admirals and a fucking island is way better than anyone ever did, its a good feat that demonstrates his toughness. Not my problem you only see things as black(win) and white(lose)
I used facts and thats it, jack went against admirals and there was a battle, judging by his bandages, and survived. Luffy didnt fight no admiral, they just stood there and he ran past them. See the difference? Ofc you dont.

And zou, an wallking island, hit jack head on and he survived again. Thats a huge durability feat but you do you.

Dont call me an it again, its unsightly and childish.
You started the passive aggressiveness mate, if you dish it you need to be ready to take it or you stfu to begin with.
You are still justifying Jack's Ls AGAIN and fail to see my point AGAIN lol
You are clearly rattled and I got under your skin (for some reason); that was not my goal.
I advise you take a break outside and come back fresh.
'' Him taking an ''L'' against admirals and a fucking island is way better than anyone ever did'' :amazing:
by itself shows that you are not making sense anymore.
 
You started the passive aggressiveness mate, if you dish it you need to be ready to take it or you stfu to begin with.
You are still justifying Jack's Ls AGAIN and fail to see my point AGAIN lol
You are clearly rattled and I got under your skin (for some reason); that was not my goal.
I advise you take a break outside and come back fresh.
'' Him taking an ''L'' against admirals and a fucking island is way better than anyone ever did'' :amazing:
by itself shows that you are not making sense anymore.
What character at commander level and lower had a better feat than getting beat down by two top tiers and an island?
If you have one that i forgot ill be happy to accept it. If not stop trolling.

Im saying that his ''Ls'' can be taken both ways, either your way oh lol he lost and thats it. Or the other way, thats its a testament to his toughness, meaning its a tankyness feat but whatever man.
 
to me kaido is still the unbeatable force that he was introduced as. as of late we see some true colors in his character. he doesn't seem like some big brute that has no brain. it seems like he is an actual warrior who seems like a father figure to some of his subordinates.

kaido being almost beaten by oden was needed. it showed that even the most untouchable people can be taken down at some point and in my opinion it doesn't take away any of his hype. because, we clearly see that kaido realizes that he would've lost if higurashi didnt step in. kaido seemed a lot more calm when it came to killing oden off. for the entire execution he was laughing his ass off, but when the execution was over it seemed like he had realized something. for instance, he killed off higurashi aka the person that helped him win out of respect for oden. he wasn't scared of him anymore, he knew that oden wouldn't be able to do much anymore so out of compassion and respect he finished him off himself, not with a boro breath not with a thunder bagua, but with a simple gunshot. And, i think that speaks charachter

also, kaido isnt a bitch. he took his change at hitting oden as much as anyone would. and if he was such a coward then he would never let big mom out of her chains, someone who at that point is arguably stronger than oden.

I think we shouldn't sleep on Kaido since we havent seen how he really got to this point. we really don't know that much about him. and im exited to find out. so, to answer your question: yes i enjoy kaido very much so.
 
to me kaido is still the unbeatable force that he was introduced as. as of late we see some true colors in his character. he doesn't seem like some big brute that has no brain. it seems like he is an actual warrior who seems like a father figure to some of his subordinates.

kaido being almost beaten by oden was needed. it showed that even the most untouchable people can be taken down at some point and in my opinion it doesn't take away any of his hype. because, we clearly see that kaido realizes that he would've lost if higurashi didnt step in. kaido seemed a lot more calm when it came to killing oden off. for the entire execution he was laughing his ass off, but when the execution was over it seemed like he had realized something. for instance, he killed off higurashi aka the person that helped him win out of respect for oden. he wasn't scared of him anymore, he knew that oden wouldn't be able to do much anymore so out of compassion and respect he finished him off himself, not with a boro breath not with a thunder bagua, but with a simple gunshot. And, i think that speaks charachter

also, kaido isnt a bitch. he took his change at hitting oden as much as anyone would. and if he was such a coward then he would never let big mom out of her chains, someone who at that point is arguably stronger than oden.

I think we shouldn't sleep on Kaido since we havent seen how he really got to this point. we really don't know that much about him. and im exited to find out. so, to answer your question: yes i enjoy kaido very much so.
Kaido was never scared of oden tho, why do people keep saying this, he never showed fear on panel, ever.
 
to me kaido is still the unbeatable force that he was introduced as. as of late we see some true colors in his character. he doesn't seem like some big brute that has no brain. it seems like he is an actual warrior who seems like a father figure to some of his subordinates.

kaido being almost beaten by oden was needed. it showed that even the most untouchable people can be taken down at some point and in my opinion it doesn't take away any of his hype. because, we clearly see that kaido realizes that he would've lost if higurashi didnt step in. kaido seemed a lot more calm when it came to killing oden off. for the entire execution he was laughing his ass off, but when the execution was over it seemed like he had realized something. for instance, he killed off higurashi aka the person that helped him win out of respect for oden. he wasn't scared of him anymore, he knew that oden wouldn't be able to do much anymore so out of compassion and respect he finished him off himself, not with a boro breath not with a thunder bagua, but with a simple gunshot. And, i think that speaks charachter

also, kaido isnt a bitch. he took his change at hitting oden as much as anyone would. and if he was such a coward then he would never let big mom out of her chains, someone who at that point is arguably stronger than oden.

I think we shouldn't sleep on Kaido since we havent seen how he really got to this point. we really don't know that much about him. and im exited to find out. so, to answer your question: yes i enjoy kaido very much so.
You mistook his silence during the boiling mate, it was imo, him getting profoundly touched by the way Oden was acting and the epic way he was behaving. Right after the boiling ended kaido told him that they will remember his death for years to come. He came to respect the man, whereas before he didnt.

There is no fear there or him realizing oden woulldnt do much, earlier i posted a manga panel of oden planning to assassinate kaido. That and his lletter ot toki indicates one thing to me, he was wary of kaido. And the only reason he would be so is because he already tested his capabilities against him. When would that be you ask? In the castle when he was trying to kill orochi. We clearly see kaido arrive and stop the next strike that i assume was a named or more powerfull attack then the one he first used on orochi to break the barrier. After that they squared off for a bit before orochi made his proposal.

Kaido never displayed fear or doubt about him winning, heck he wanted to reduce odens rep to make his win easier. He didnt respect oden as he told him he was a big softie like wb and roger. But i guess the boiling changed his mind.
 
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