Powers & Abilities How deos Haki storage work? Are you boosting Enma or are you downplaying it? Is Enma a power up or a nerf?

Which one is it?


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
and he's not fucking said "when i use enma that means i'm fucking nerfed", he clearly got stronger in his AP step by step even when he hasnt fully master it, release more haki = stronger AP, unless you dumb enough not understand that.
That's what getting used to it means dumbass
It means as he holds it then he is not used to it
And no it doesn't increase ap
It wastes more haki to cut more than he wants to.
 
That's what getting used to it means dumbass
It means as he holds it then he is not used to it
And no it doesn't increase ap
It wastes more haki to cut more than he wants to.
yea it waste more haki if he doesnt land on his enemy, when he does, then its not a freaking waste.

like would you still call it a waste if one sword Enma was landed on Kaido instead of that giant horn?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
yea it waste more haki if he doesnt land on his enemy, when he does, then its not a freaking waste.

like would you still call it a waste if one sword Enma was landed on Kaido instead of that giant horn?
Stop being dumb. When he got it it sucked his arm dry. And wasted a load of haki he didn't want to. That's the opposite of a power up. Hence he had to train with it.
 
Enma is definitely a power up for Zoro to allow him to train his haki and to advance to the next level after all he has to keep up with being at least 1 step behind Luffy.

The whole Oden haki being used thing is only used when trolling (I've done it myself to mess with certain Ztards) but there is definitely something to the sword having at least having Oden's presence in it. What that means I don't know and don't pretend to know however to ignore it doesn't have Oden's presence to it is deluded.

So in essence. Enma is a power up which allows Zoro's OWN power to be more potent but the sword itself carries the essence of Oden what that means I feel we'll find out in the future.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
Enma may be a tad stronger than Wado assuming that the reason he mentioned he had to draw more power from it was not a matter of mastery but other than that the power it conferred Zoro was the very training itself rather than the sword AP.
 
Enma surely does have Oden's haki stored in it. Otherwise Kaido wouldn't have felt Oden's presence when zoro used the sword.

However, enma only has the remnants of Oden's haki. That giant black cloud that coated enma everytime zoro cut kaido, that thing was all zoro.
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Also, arguing that enma is a nerf is a 0 IQ take. As per zoro's own words, he had to tap into the power of enma to do serious damage to kaido. Enma is an extremely powerful weapon, arguably moreso than shusui, however it is only strong when it is mastered.

Give it to a less capable swordsman, like Law for example, and it probably would be a nerf. But in zoro's hands it is a power up.
 
Enma surely does have Oden's haki stored in it. Otherwise Kaido wouldn't have felt Oden's presence when zoro used the sword.

However, enma only has the remnants of Oden's haki. That giant black cloud that coated enma everytime zoro cut kaido, that thing was all zoro.
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Also, arguing that enma is a nerf is a 0 IQ take. As per zoro's own words, he had to tap into the power of enma to do serious damage to kaido. Enma is an extremely powerful weapon, arguably moreso than shusui, however it is only strong when it is mastered.

Give it to a less capable swordsman, like Law for example, and it probably would be a nerf. But in zoro's hands it is a power up.
It doesn't.
It's Zoro all haki bud.

Zoro haki is comparable to Oden that's why Kaido mentions him.

"How X could do this ? It must be Oden"
Kaido has no other character to compare so it obvious Oden will be mentioned. He's the only who cut him so he will always be Kaido option if someone hurts him .

Y'all more willing to headcanon that a dead guy haki is inside a sword than accepting the future WSS has a haki comparable or greater than Oden.
 
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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
The Grandmaster's Haki is absolutely astonishing. Just thinking of how he could stop Hakai for a while, that cannot be Enma's doing alone. Oden is dead and Brook and Big Mom are the only known characters who can play with souls or something. Oden's soul is nowhere to be seen and Oden presence can very well refer to the sword having stored his memories.

I doubt Kaido intended it as an haki level comparable to Zoro's since he was pretty specific mentioning Oden and not Zoro himself, but still there's another valid explanation to it.
 
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Herrera95

ok, so Luffy is nerfed because ACoC, because he hasnt master it, and he will only be stronger if he has fully master it. I get your point.
No dude.

First of all it seems to me Luffy already mastered ACoC since he is using at free will without trouble both base form and G4 Snakeman Form.
Second, ACoC is enabling Luffy to do damage he couldn't before. Enma never did that to Zoro.

Even if Luffy didn't mastered it is already a buff since he is doing more damage than he could before.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
I think there's no evidence to whether or not Luffy mastered ACoC, but knowing Goda he will probably empower his stats soon enough one way or the other.
 
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