General & Others How disappointed would you be if the M3 didn’t fight Calamities?

How disappointed would you be?


  • Total voters
    145
So you're saying Wano Zoro and Sanji are weaker than even pre-Wano G2/3 Luffy?

Just screaming "they arent on Luffy's level!" doesnt change that the fact that the 2 of them were dominating mid tiers without using full strength. They can challenge high tiers.
Who is these supposed Mid tiers? What has Oda specifically mentioned them as such?

Do you even listen to yourself?
Luffy the guy who had struggled and fought his way all throughout these arcs and then his two crewmates Zoro and Sanji barely getting much of any fights, just skirmishes were already strong enough to fight Doflamingo ( Sanji got screwed and would of been knocked out) (Zoro took forever to beat Pica whose weaker than Vergo), and since then have just coasted by until now can fight and win against a Yonko Commander.... lol ok need to stop smoking that weed because its killing your brain cells.
 
can any of y'all even explain how Zoro could beat Katakuri or how Sanji could even beat cracker? lol
Duuuuuude.

Zoro took out a mid tier in DR and he still had fuel in the tank.

High tiers are next.

In Wano he even gets a new sword, for what exactly? To waste time with Tobi Roppos?

You forgot about story progression or what?

Shieeeeet.

Dude gotta defeat Mihawk before the manga ends, not in some spinoff 20 years in the future.
 
Duuuuuude.

Zoro took out a mid tier in DR and he still had fuel in the tank.

High tiers are next.

In Wano he even gets a new sword, for what exactly? To waste time with Tobi Roppos?

You forgot about story progression or what?

Shieeeeet.

Dude gotta defeat Mihawk before the manga ends, not in some spinoff 20 years in the future.
So you're ok for someone to jump from a lvl of 50 to 85 like no problem? Why did people bitch about Luffy so much even if he barely earned it, god damn hypocritical nonsense.
 
Duuuuuude.

Zoro took out a mid tier in DR and he still had fuel in the tank.

High tiers are next.

In Wano he even gets a new sword, for what exactly? To waste time with Tobi Roppos?

You forgot about story progression or what?

Shieeeeet.

Dude gotta defeat Mihawk before the manga ends, not in some spinoff 20 years in the future.
aren t you excited to see zoro using asura and oden s sword on whos who :steef::josad:
 
Duuuuuude.

Zoro took out a mid tier in DR and he still had fuel in the tank.

High tiers are next.

In Wano he even gets a new sword, for what exactly? To waste time with Tobi Roppos?

You forgot about story progression or what?

Shieeeeet.

Dude gotta defeat Mihawk before the manga ends, not in some spinoff 20 years in the future.
I don't disagree that Zoro will fight a high tier. I just don't think that that high tier will be King. There is no conceivable way he can beat katakuri imo.

Zoro will either fight kanjuro, who Oda revealed was far stronger than we thought and is imo YC3 level, or he will fight Queen.
 

Uncle Van

Bullets don't hurt. But Taxes do.
Who is these supposed Mid tiers? What has Oda specifically mentioned them as such?

Do you even listen to yourself?
Luffy the guy who had struggled and fought his way all throughout these arcs and then his two crewmates Zoro and Sanji barely getting much of any fights, just skirmishes were already strong enough to fight Doflamingo ( Sanji got screwed and would of been knocked out) (Zoro took forever to beat Pica whose weaker than Vergo), and since then have just coasted by until now can fight and win against a Yonko Commander.... lol ok need to stop smoking that weed because its killing your brain cells.
The lols and insults doesnt make your rambling more credible.

So you're telling me that Pica, PageOne, Daifuku, Killer, Oven etc arent mid tiers? Zoro and Sanji have beaten or overpowered mid tiers without using full strength....your counter argument was randomly saying they arent on Luffy's level.....as if the calamities are top tiers all of a sudden.

We literally saw Luffy get a huge boost during his fight with Katakuri and your responses are nothing deflections using insults.
 
I don't disagree that Zoro will fight a high tier. I just don't think that that high tier will be King. There is no conceivable way he can beat katakuri imo.

Zoro will either fight kanjuro, who Oda revealed was far stronger than we thought and is imo YC3 level, or he will fight Queen.
LOL, if he needs to bust out Asura plus Enma to take care of a YC3 we're gonna be here another 20 years.
 
The lols and insults doesnt make your rambling more credible.

So you're telling me that Pica, PageOne, Daifuku, Killer, Oven etc arent mid tiers? Zoro and Sanji have beaten or overpowered mid tiers without using full strength....your counter argument was randomly saying they arent on Luffy's level.....as if the calamities are top tiers all of a sudden.

We literally saw Luffy get a huge boost during his fight with Katakuri and your responses are nothing deflections using insults.
What your saying is just rambling to me, so what do I care.
Pica is lower than Diafuku. Pageone and killer I cant place. Oven stronger than Daifuku but not by a whole lot.

Not everything is cut and dry.

Who decided to label these characters 'midd tiers'? The fans, which leads to fanon like the Zoro wankers.
 
LOL, if he needs to bust out Asura plus Enma to take care of a YC3 we're gonna be here another 20 years.
Why do you people keep repeating this fallacy? it is a FACT that there will be more enemies between kaido and blackbeard. At the very least we will have a clash with the marines.

Zoro vs SSG = Zoro surpasses YC1s

Zoro vs Shiryu = Zoro surpasses a low top tier

Zoro vs Gorosei = zoro surpasses Mihawk
 
Its also nonsense to not explain fully you're point of view.
1) Zoro´s feats have shown him already being above mid tier, which is reserved for people around veterans or Vice Admirals. He protected himself against a top tier well enough, while even high tiers can toy around with mid tiers (DD vs a lot of them, Hancock, Sabo and so on), and beat an opponent who took the entire country hostage and who nobody could to something against except Law, Luffy, Fujitora and DD himself on the island (even Sabo is questionable), which made a legendary pirate and a lot of mid tier look at it in awe and praise him, and it took only that long because Pica was constantly running away from the fight.
Zoro then got a chance to powerup and train with a sword that puts stimulates growth.
For him to be now where Luffy started after the TS (he did not grow against DD and Cracker btw, it´s a logical fallacy to assume each battle will make them improve) is not too far-fetched.

2) Sanji came out significantly weaker than the other two, but he was still in the upper mid tier spectrum, could tussle with Vergo, could fight Daifuku equally, and can blitz guys like Oven, while using his strongest move post-TS only once.
And now he has received a powerup which is literally a booster of his stats coupled with a seemingly overwhelmingly ability like invisibility, and he dominated the few panels against P1 while only trying out the suit and not being used to it, which, in the manner he did it, suggests a high tier spectrum.


Putting these guys into high tier fights and making them grow as Luffy did against Katakuri is pretty accurate and appropriate.
 
Why do you people keep repeating this fallacy? it is a FACT that there will be more enemies between kaido and blackbeard. At the very least we will have a clash with the marines.

Zoro vs SSG = Zoro surpasses YC1s

Zoro vs Shiryu = Zoro surpasses a low top tier

Zoro vs Gorosei = zoro surpasses Mihawk
No, it's not a fact, it's a speculation. I don't believe at all theres gonna be the Sabo rescue arc with the SH assaulting the Marines.

And if you think DR Zoro needs Enma to take care of a YC3 im wondering how many power ups you think he's gonna get to jump above that.
 
Top