Powers & Abilities How does Sanji surpass Scopper Gaban if he never gets ACoC?
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The whole point of that chapter is that sanji rejects the warrior of science moniker.
That's why Queen was excited to fight Sanji he wanted to prove his SCIENCE was better than Judges.
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Do you not view Zoro as a haki based fighter same applies to Luffy everything is haki to become the strongest you need strong haki.
Literally stated by Kaido.
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You are talking to a guy that says Sanji power are science based now
After we spend an arc that where we were told by the world leading scientists, Vegapunk, to Sanji to the face, that his powers are unscientific
Twice
These are the guys that want to educate people on a children manga
After we spend an arc that where we were told by the world leading scientists, Vegapunk, to Sanji to the face, that his powers are unscientific
Twice
These are the guys that want to educate people on a children manga
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Was this after WCI ? I think there was a panel of Zeff but don't recall what he said.
Why should I your bitch ass didn't react either after I posted the kizaru panel and sbs panel calling his power not science based
What a fucking Clown
Zoro bozos trying to fail the literacy class is always peak
What a fucking Clown
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bluddy is crying after writing essay every week to just oda to btfo him
"noo oda is finished with sanjis character arc"
"noo his powers will be science based"
Meeanwhile this is what a character in the manga SPEFICIALLY say his powers are unscientifc
So does oda:
better luck next time, try to post your fanfic on ao3
Imagine if all the zgirls invested time in the manga reading instead writing here
90 % less trafic and 100% less effort for oda to explain shit to toddler level
"noo oda is finished with sanjis character arc"
"noo his powers will be science based"
Meeanwhile this is what a character in the manga SPEFICIALLY say his powers are unscientifc
So does oda:
better luck next time, try to post your fanfic on ao3Imagine if all the zgirls invested time in the manga reading instead writing here
90 % less trafic and 100% less effort for oda to explain shit to toddler level
Why should I your bitch ass didn't react either after I posted the kizaru panel and sbs panel calling his power not science based
What a fucking Clown
Zoro bozos trying to fail the literacy class is always peak
What a fucking Clown
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Zoro bozos trying to fail the literacy class is always peak
You do know Queen laughed at him when he said that right... his power isn't some power of love, although I do believe he gets stronger depending on his emotional state.
You do know in the SBS you posted Oda supports what I said right ...
ODA : "But then, the raid suit acted as a trigger that discover the power of science inside Sanii!!" (Sanji is a science based fighter)
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I don't get it. Sanji came out of the timeskip with both CoA and CoO, but there are people claiming it's not a central part of his fighting style? If haki wasn't an important component of his fighting style, he wouldn't have it in the first place. Even his last PU is partially based on haki, Sanji made it clear it's not the exoskeleton alone that allows him to use IJ. Not to mention the guy doesn't have a DF and his Roger parallel has FS + ACoC. Him improving his haki is a logical and natural next step.
Really curious about what kind of power-up these people envision for Sanji. Their expectations seem so irrational that it looks like they think he won't get any more PUs. If you do think he will get another PU but that it can't be haki-related, what will he get?
Really curious about what kind of power-up these people envision for Sanji. Their expectations seem so irrational that it looks like they think he won't get any more PUs. If you do think he will get another PU but that it can't be haki-related, what will he get?
@Doggo
Look at this not only ignoring the kizaru panel but he is afraid to read the last 2 sentences of the sbs out loud
I don't envy you mofos the days arguing zkk with such dishonest people must be insane I'm out as well this is pathetic 
Look at this not only ignoring the kizaru panel but he is afraid to read the last 2 sentences of the sbs out loud
I don't envy you mofos the days arguing zkk with such dishonest people must be insane
I'm out as well this is pathetic
I like that Oda wrote the fight that way it's a cool way to show Sanji above all the bros and Judge.
I think we just don't agree on the warrior of science part keep in mind this is what Sanji said initially.
He acknowledged he got stronger when putting on the raid suit and it activated his Germa abilities hence he became a warrior of science like the chapter title stated, now he didn't take the additional buff by also wearing the raid-suit instead he destroyed it.
This is why I say he's written to be conflicted but Oda wrapped it up perfectly in Wano.
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That's an Oda question.
He didn't get a single haki buff all throughout the TS it's possible he could start now but jumping him all the way to AdvCoC without AdvCoO or AdvCoA to me is absurd.
As late as it is, it's far from too late to awaken. It's not like Zoro has had it for very long.
Sanji uses Haki extensively to attack and defend against strong opponents. Haki is a base component of Ifrit.
"Advanced" Haki is a concept made up by fans.
Sanji is skilled at CoA and even better at CoO. Adding CoC will boost the power of his kicks. It may allow him to achieve hotter flames than Ifrit. It could possibly even enhance the properties of his exoskeleton, regeneration or speed.
For all we know CoC is a necessary component for Future Sight too.
You're doing the reaching.
Zoro and Sanji are the same age and idk what your foundation is for what is a late bloomer or when CoC is supposed to awaken.
Sanji uses Haki extensively to attack and defend against strong opponents. Haki is a base component of Ifrit.
"Advanced" Haki is a concept made up by fans.
Sanji is skilled at CoA and even better at CoO. Adding CoC will boost the power of his kicks. It may allow him to achieve hotter flames than Ifrit. It could possibly even enhance the properties of his exoskeleton, regeneration or speed.
For all we know CoC is a necessary component for Future Sight too.
You're doing the reaching.
Zoro and Sanji are the same age and idk what your foundation is for what is a late bloomer or when CoC is supposed to awaken.
There is no point in trying to make OP complicated. If Oda wants Sanji to have CoC, he'll do it regardless if it makes sense or not.
And Sanji will be stronger than prime Gaban, with or without CoC.
Oda just doesn't care.
Egghead Luffy was a bum compared to end of Wano Luffy, and Gaban toyed with him and Zoro yet you can bet your ass at some point Luffy is going to look stronger with no new power up. Same with Zoro.
Oda is a bum when it comes to power level because he can't make hard choices. Basically every old legends are equals, every admirals are equals and every yonko are equals whenever they have a fight or a clash.
He thinks it's hype when it's just bad writing.
And Sanji will be stronger than prime Gaban, with or without CoC.
Oda just doesn't care.
Egghead Luffy was a bum compared to end of Wano Luffy, and Gaban toyed with him and Zoro yet you can bet your ass at some point Luffy is going to look stronger with no new power up. Same with Zoro.
Oda is a bum when it comes to power level because he can't make hard choices. Basically every old legends are equals, every admirals are equals and every yonko are equals whenever they have a fight or a clash.
He thinks it's hype when it's just bad writing.
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That's a bit convenient, ngl. You know enough to be dead convinced he's not getting ACoC, but not enough to have an idea of what he could get instead? Sounds like you're more concerned about gatekeeping CoC than you are about thinking of a logical PU for him.
He didn't get a single haki buff (technically untrue, the M3 improved their haki gradually every time they fought) because he only had one big 1v1. You make it sound like he had several post-skip PUs and none of them were haki-related when he had only one PU, and destroyed the other one because he chose to follow his own path.
Literally the only point of the RS and the whole science stuff, was so he could get the exoskeleton. And the reason he got the exoskeleton is likely because Sanji is a CoO specialist, not because Oda wants to go the science route with him. He likely won't get ACoA and it doesn't matter because now he has the exoskeleton on top of his CoA. But that doesn't mean he won't improve his CoO and get CoC.
He didn't get a single haki buff (technically untrue, the M3 improved their haki gradually every time they fought) because he only had one big 1v1. You make it sound like he had several post-skip PUs and none of them were haki-related when he had only one PU, and destroyed the other one because he chose to follow his own path.
Literally the only point of the RS and the whole science stuff, was so he could get the exoskeleton. And the reason he got the exoskeleton is likely because Sanji is a CoO specialist, not because Oda wants to go the science route with him. He likely won't get ACoA and it doesn't matter because now he has the exoskeleton on top of his CoA. But that doesn't mean he won't improve his CoO and get CoC.
It doesn't matter how big the fans wants Sanji to not be a top tier, Oda already decided that to happen and this if fixed & guaranteed.
How Sanji will eventually reach it, is better done with Science or the Love stuff, because Haki alone is too generic. Having special powers is always better.
For example, Guy is remembered because he uses Eight Gates, not because he has eye powers or bloodline powers like dozens other characters.
How Sanji will eventually reach it, is better done with Science or the Love stuff, because Haki alone is too generic. Having special powers is always better.
For example, Guy is remembered because he uses Eight Gates, not because he has eye powers or bloodline powers like dozens other characters.
It’s inevitable.
At the start of WCI Oda has Sanji defeat Yonji. Judge didn’t care which proves that it was really about the emotions for him.
Oda then had Queen replicate the Germa abilities which once again downplays the abilities themselves.
I think Judge’s true goal was to create conquerors and having children(royal blood, not clones) with personalities that he thought would yield that. Judge rebukes himself for not being able to kill Sanji. A trait he probably thinks prevents him from being a conqueror.
Oda couldn’t say that in WCI because the ironic conclusion would be too obvious. Judge’s only natural son and his “failure” being his actual success.
At the start of WCI Oda has Sanji defeat Yonji. Judge didn’t care which proves that it was really about the emotions for him.
Oda then had Queen replicate the Germa abilities which once again downplays the abilities themselves.
I think Judge’s true goal was to create conquerors and having children(royal blood, not clones) with personalities that he thought would yield that. Judge rebukes himself for not being able to kill Sanji. A trait he probably thinks prevents him from being a conqueror.
Oda couldn’t say that in WCI because the ironic conclusion would be too obvious. Judge’s only natural son and his “failure” being his actual success.
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Whether he will get aCoC or not, idk, I would bet on No but he will surpass Gaban the same way he surpassed all his foes since Jabra - through Heat. His heat is based on his emotions and Power of Love ties into all that perfectly. aCoC would be redundant as it doesn't buff heat. Sanji's EOS heat is probably on a whole another level, that of a dying star, which is around 100+ bil degrees C, which is what likely inspired Oda's Supernovas with bounty of 100+ mil.
Sanji isn't just going to match Scopper, he'll surpass him so he'll develop the same haki advancements, Future Sight and ACOC, plus what he's already been working on. It'll be great. I expect now against a Holy Knight, against a Blackbeard Pirate then against top-tiers but he'll surpass Gaban down the line.