Future Events How many chapters before the end of OP ?

How many chapters till the end

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AlmightyGunther43

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#81
#81
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Fishman Island being overrun can simply mean that Luffy is responsible for it's "destruction" as a result of the new war that is about to take place. Then, the World Government can fall as a result of the war. The dreams of each of the crew can occur as peace takes place throughout the world. Did I miss anything? Luffy can become Pirate King as a result of winning the war- and the final fight will take place during the end of the war.

Pretty sure there isn't much of an issue with trying to wrap everything up. The REAL issue was that the writer, Eichiro Oda, believed this could be dragged out for 20-40 years like Berserk was and we all know what happened with that~

Sidenote: Did you ever think that it was possible that the prediction the shark woman made about Luffy destroying Fishman Island could be interpreted incorrectly? What if instead Luffy is actually LIBERATING them when he's doing that by creating a new place for them to live when that is happening- and who is to say he is the one who caused all the fire and stuff like that? The most likely prediction for it is that he is in the midst of an ongoing fight with someone else when they are attempting to destroy Fishman Island and he's protecting it?

It never made sense for Luffy to be standing in front of a flaming/destroyed Fishman Island. I don't think anyone ever thought he would really be responsible for that. It ALWAYS had to be something else.
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#82
#82
AlmightyGunther43 said:
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Fishman Island being overrun can simply mean that Luffy is responsible for it's "destruction" as a result of the new war that is about to take place. Then, the World Government can fall as a result of the war. The dreams of each of the crew can occur as peace takes place throughout the world. Did I miss anything? Luffy can become Pirate King as a result of winning the war- and the final fight will take place during the end of the war.

Pretty sure there isn't much of an issue with trying to wrap everything up. The REAL issue was that the writer, Eichiro Oda, believed this could be dragged out for 20-40 years like Berserk was and we all know what happened with that~

Sidenote: Did you ever think that it was possible that the prediction the shark woman made about Luffy destroying Fishman Island could be interpreted incorrectly? What if instead Luffy is actually LIBERATING them when he's doing that by creating a new place for them to live when that is happening- and who is to say he is the one who caused all the fire and stuff like that? The most likely prediction for it is that he is in the midst of an ongoing fight with someone else when they are attempting to destroy Fishman Island and he's protecting it?

It never made sense for Luffy to be standing in front of a flaming/destroyed Fishman Island. I don't think anyone ever thought he would really be responsible for that. It ALWAYS had to be something else.
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Theres a pretty simple theory on this one: It needs to be destroyed because Mariejois needs to be destroyed.

Its symbolic, FI only exists the way it does due to persecution by humans. Noah being prophesied to save them all and bring them to the surface with sea kings and Shirahoshi seems very much what her role is, while Luffy is above taking down the Government
 
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Herrera95

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#84
Deathsyth22000 said:
I'm looking for what I want I just joined, my apologies. My name does have death in it? Anyway.

Luffy wasn't going to completely destroy arabasta or dressrosa. Per madam sharly's prediction, he will destroy fishman Island which is below mariejoa. I just think killing everyone up there isn't de way ma brotha. Or sista. Ista.
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Just like Fishmen Island people will be evaded on Noah all those people from Mariejoia can also evade somehow.

I mean the fight will start they will already be evading if not before. Why the hell they would stay until the fight ends and Mariejoa falls at Fishmen Island?

And all that considering your cenário. Why the hell Mariejoia have to be destroyed? Pretty much they would just had Pluton destroy fishmen island.
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#88
#88
sanjikun said:
100 max. This is the final saga. BB/Imu/WG will be wrapped with the Final Saga.
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Jesus bro, even after Wano you think this'll be the case?:milaugh:

We arent even off Egghead, we havent seen Elbaf, the 4th RP hasnt even been found and Laugh Tale isnt even next. Not to mention 5x the characters Wano had still exist.

But 100 chapters max? Lol see you at 1200 I guess when we are only in Elbaf.
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Phoenix D. King said:
Around 175-200
Dont know where this delusion about 300+ is coming from
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Because final arcs (saga) are generally way bigger than anything else prior in shonen and we arent even remotely there yet.
 
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gz89

gz89

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#89
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sanjikun said:
100 max. This is the final saga. BB/Imu/WG will be wrapped with the Final Saga.
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100 chapters barely cover the remaining Yonko race/fbs/fights to Raftel.
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Paperchampion23 said:
Jesus bro, even after Wano you think this'll be the case?:milaugh:

We arent even off Egghead, we havent seen Elbaf, the 4th RP hasnt even been found and Laugh Tale isnt even next. Not to mention 5x the characters Wano had still exist.

But 100 chapters max? Lol see you at 1200 I guess when we are only in Elbaf.
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Because final arcs (saga) are generally way bigger than anything else prior in shonen and we arent even remotely there yet.
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I think there is a chance that Oda will address some things from the manga to the upcoming movies.

We had Shiki,Zephyr,Laughtale (which is huge and i still cant understand how he decided to do that),Fingarland stuff so its not a stretch to think he might do the same with more stuff in the future so that he can save 30+- chapters which is around a year.
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#91
#91
gz89 said:
100 chapters barely cover the remaining Yonko race/fbs/fights to Raftel.
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I think there is a chance that Oda will address some things from the manga to the upcoming movies.

We had Shiki,Zephyr,Laughtale (which is huge and i still cant understand how he decided to do that),Fingarland stuff so its not a stretch to think he might do the same with more stuff in the future so that he can save 30+- chapters which is around a year.
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The issue is he still addresses them in the manga lol. "Laugh Tale" is basically a dedicated chapter in Wano, and the figarland, shiki stuff is now being referenced too.


I think people will be genuinely surprised about how long serialization will go in the end. Even Oda has stated he doesnt know when it will end and his progress measurements are purely guesses or personal desire.

If he wants to rush it like Kubo, then yes he can probably do it in 100 chapters and it would be absolutely abysmal. If he's still motivated and healthy for 10 years, then the series will take as long as it needs to finish.
 
Phoenix D. King

Phoenix D. King

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#92
#92
Paperchampion23 said:
The issue is he still addresses them in the manga lol. "Laugh Tale" is basically a dedicated chapter in Wano, and the figarland, shiki stuff is now being referenced too.


I think people will be genuinely surprised about how long serialization will go in the end. Even Oda has stated he doesnt know when it will end and his progress measurements are purely guesses or personal desire.

If he wants to rush it like Kubo, then yes he can probably do it in 100 chapters and it would be absolutely abysmal. If he's still motivated and healthy for 10 years, then the series will take as long as it needs to finish.
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10 years is just ridiculous though

5 is even a reach

we are being shown the endgame villains rn bud, by elbaf the RAs will be on the move and then its just Laughtale + Final War
 
gz89

gz89

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#93
#93
Phoenix D. King said:
10 years is just ridiculous though

5 is even a reach

we are being shown the endgame villains rn bud, by elbaf the RAs will be on the move and then its just Laughtale + Final War
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So how many chapters do you think he will need for conclusion

-Egghead / outside events
-CG / RHP / BBP /
-Gorosei / RA / Holy Knights / Imu
- God Valley / Void Century fbs
- Elbaf & whatever "mini arcs"
- Finale / SHs achieving their dreams.

All these cant be done in 5 years = 150-170ch
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#94
#94
Phoenix D. King said:
10 years is just ridiculous though
5 is even a reach

we are being shown the endgame villains rn bud, by elbaf the RAs will be on the move and then its just Laughtale + Final War
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No its not lol. The issue is you arent thinking from a geographical perspective.

- Is Egghead almost over? We have no idea because we havent even gotten to the core part of the arc with a villain. If it lasts another 40 chapters, there you go another year.

- We cant even be sure Elbaf is next. I think it is, but we cant actually confirm this.

- Is Elbaf short? Is it long? Regardless itll be at least a year right? 40 chapters? Or will it be WCI length? 80 chapters? Dressrosa length? 100 chapters? Wano length....150? Like there is no answer. Does Elbaf even have its own villain?

- If we go to Kid's route with Elbafs, then Law's objectively should also exist because then the scene about Luffy taking the most indirect route then doesnt make sense.

- Is the 4th RP/Burned Man plotline even tied to any of the above? My guess is the island past Elbaf at least, but can we be sure? What will it consist of? Will it be a war between the 4 Yonko? That plus the Marines? On top of the WG? Or does it get split up into multiple conflicts over time?

- Lodestar/Laugh Tale are also things.

- It doesnt matter when the Revo's fight the WG, they are hardly the focal point of that war. Imu has a thing against non-Revolutionaries, so its clear the endgame has ties to them too. When does Noah get used to rescue the Fishmen? Does this entire thing happen after Laugh Tale?

- Then we dont even know the scale of these conflicts or how long they last

Do you see why 150-200 chapters even seems to not make sense on its own? People keep throwing the "but Marineford was 30 chapters" nonsense when it did not resolve shit except 2 deaths lol. This is not how Oda draws climactic battles, he'll have nothing to hide by that point.
 
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Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#96
#96
mmd said:
100_150
I think that after the arc of Egghead, the speed of the story will increase like descending from a waterfall
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I feel like the exact same thing was said after Wano lol

Edit: And before anyone states that Egghead increased pace, all it did was sacrifice Strawhat/Egghead panel time for outside conflict updates. We still have to go back to Egghead and continue where we left off
 
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mmd

mmd

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#98
#98
Paperchampion23 said:
I feel like the exact same thing was said after Wano lol
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It was really Zoro's arc and we can ignore it
We now enter Luffy's story... According to Oda, he drew Luffy's story for this reason so that he could also tell us the story of Dragon and Garp...And these characters started moving now
Considering Oda's age and the turmoil that I see between the characters, I don't think there are more than 200 chapter of the story.:kayneshrug:
 
Paperchampion23

Paperchampion23

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#99
#99
mmd said:
It was really Zoro's arc and we can ignore it
We now enter Luffy's story... According to Oda, he drew Luffy's story for this reason so that he could also tell us the story of Dragon and Garp...And these characters started moving now
Considering Oda's age and the turmoil that I see between the characters, I don't think there are more than 200 chapter of the story.:kayneshrug:
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Again but....what does that have to do with Egghead, Elbaf and the Burned Man lol? Garp and Dragon have nothing to do with Laugh Tale. Thats a Yonko plotline.
 
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