Hey everyone,
I wanna know how do you guys determine who's dead and who isn't? In the present storyline, no flashbacks, named characters only.
I did a video on this topic [ Understanding Death in One Piece ], and I've come to the conclusion that I only believe a certain death by it's narrative significance. I'll explain what I mean.
Yes, there are other more explicit ways to confirm a death:
1-By the passing of a DF, a death must be implied
2-By the narrator's speech box, which in One Piece is an omniscient narrator that hasn't lied to us in almost 1k chapters
3-If the exact moment of death or a lifeless corpse is explicitly shown, which I think was only shown 3 times, White Beard, Ace and Yasuie
But I think if that's not Oda's go to style. If he uses that for every character of present story line , it will take out the dramatic impact. That's why Oda has only done it 3 time so far. Most deaths in OP (if flashbacks death included) are suggested or silhouetted. That's because if an author has to explicilty confirm every death in the story, it becomes a boring story.
So which off-screen deaths should you believe? How can you trust some suggested off-screen deaths and which ones you should watch out for a potential future plot twist?
To answer this, I took the examples of Pound and Pedro.
Although Pound has not been "confirmed" to be alive, I think a lot people of the community have always been skeptical about it. But to make it short:
For a death to be true, it has to do 1 of 3 things:
1-Impact a character's persona (e.g. Béll Mére, Sora, Kuina, Tom, Nico Olivia, ACE etc...)
2-Impact the Story/Develop the plot (White Beard, Yasuie
3-Explore a theme (Queen Otohime, Fisher Tigger)
Pound:
1-Pound's "death" had no impact to any character. His daughter Chiffon didn't remember him, nobody that liked him witnessed his death.
2-Although you could say that his death made Bege and Chiffon escape Oven's boiling water technique but in fact that's not the case. Pound was supposedly "killed" because he had already stopped Oven. Not the other way around. Death has to create dramatic action, not be caused because of it.
3-Pound's theme is Family. Which development was made by Pound dying? That Big Mom and her sons value politics over family bounds? That was already established with Lola, Chiffon, Puddin, and with just Pound's backstory. Dyeing there would just have a cheap dramatic effect that Oda is too good.
Pedro:
1- Carrot becomes more responsible and inheirts Pedro's dream of helping the SH's achieve the Dawn of the World
2- Not only allows the Sunny to escape from Perospero's candy, later on, it also motivates Pekoms to betray the Big Mom Pirates and help Luffy out of the mirror world and Cacao island. Furthermore, Pedro's death was the pay for the SH's getting the better out of a Yonko. If half of the SH's could enter a Yonko territory, steal a Poneglyph a leave all dandy candy, our perception of the Yonko would fall rock bottom.
3- Pedro's Death is a piece of the puzzle of the One Piece, revealing the advent of the Dawn of the World, and bringing the Pirate Mink Samurai Alliance closer together
Following this logic, which characters do you think are dead?
Vergo
Monet
Charllote Opera
Pound
Pedro
Morya
Thanks dudes!
______________________________
TLDR; When an off-screen death happens, ask yourself how does this suit the story?
I wanna know how do you guys determine who's dead and who isn't? In the present storyline, no flashbacks, named characters only.
I did a video on this topic [ Understanding Death in One Piece ], and I've come to the conclusion that I only believe a certain death by it's narrative significance. I'll explain what I mean.
Yes, there are other more explicit ways to confirm a death:
1-By the passing of a DF, a death must be implied
2-By the narrator's speech box, which in One Piece is an omniscient narrator that hasn't lied to us in almost 1k chapters
3-If the exact moment of death or a lifeless corpse is explicitly shown, which I think was only shown 3 times, White Beard, Ace and Yasuie
But I think if that's not Oda's go to style. If he uses that for every character of present story line , it will take out the dramatic impact. That's why Oda has only done it 3 time so far. Most deaths in OP (if flashbacks death included) are suggested or silhouetted. That's because if an author has to explicilty confirm every death in the story, it becomes a boring story.
So which off-screen deaths should you believe? How can you trust some suggested off-screen deaths and which ones you should watch out for a potential future plot twist?
To answer this, I took the examples of Pound and Pedro.
Although Pound has not been "confirmed" to be alive, I think a lot people of the community have always been skeptical about it. But to make it short:
For a death to be true, it has to do 1 of 3 things:
1-Impact a character's persona (e.g. Béll Mére, Sora, Kuina, Tom, Nico Olivia, ACE etc...)
2-Impact the Story/Develop the plot (White Beard, Yasuie
3-Explore a theme (Queen Otohime, Fisher Tigger)
Pound:
1-Pound's "death" had no impact to any character. His daughter Chiffon didn't remember him, nobody that liked him witnessed his death.
2-Although you could say that his death made Bege and Chiffon escape Oven's boiling water technique but in fact that's not the case. Pound was supposedly "killed" because he had already stopped Oven. Not the other way around. Death has to create dramatic action, not be caused because of it.
3-Pound's theme is Family. Which development was made by Pound dying? That Big Mom and her sons value politics over family bounds? That was already established with Lola, Chiffon, Puddin, and with just Pound's backstory. Dyeing there would just have a cheap dramatic effect that Oda is too good.
Pedro:
1- Carrot becomes more responsible and inheirts Pedro's dream of helping the SH's achieve the Dawn of the World
2- Not only allows the Sunny to escape from Perospero's candy, later on, it also motivates Pekoms to betray the Big Mom Pirates and help Luffy out of the mirror world and Cacao island. Furthermore, Pedro's death was the pay for the SH's getting the better out of a Yonko. If half of the SH's could enter a Yonko territory, steal a Poneglyph a leave all dandy candy, our perception of the Yonko would fall rock bottom.
3- Pedro's Death is a piece of the puzzle of the One Piece, revealing the advent of the Dawn of the World, and bringing the Pirate Mink Samurai Alliance closer together
Following this logic, which characters do you think are dead?
Vergo
Monet
Charllote Opera
Pound
Pedro
Morya
Thanks dudes!
______________________________
TLDR; When an off-screen death happens, ask yourself how does this suit the story?
