Questions & Mysteries How strong is Blackbeard’s gravity?

[Dr_Professor83]

Sigh... Clearly it’s not regular darkness, genius. I’m saying that his power is NOT gravity, therefore it isn’t a blackhole which is evident to anyone with a fraction of a brain. It is “darkness” with a supernatural secondary effect of being able to suck things in akin to a blackhole while not actually being one.

And his darkness is manifested as a dark mist and last I checked a blackhole had no phyiscal form as it is just a warphole of pure gravity.

I’ve said earlier that I’m not entirely sure whether Blackbeard’s vortex/blackhole stuff is meant to be a literal representation of a blackhole in the OP word or not. It’s clearly not exactly like a blackhole in our world, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t Oda’s idea of a blackhole for his world he’s created. But either way it mimics the properties of gravity which is all that really matters when discussing who would win in a tug of war between him and Fuji which is the original question.

BB’s darkness has properties of a blackhole, which is in most fiction, the end all be all when it comes to gravity attacks. If you want to argue that whatever force BB is using to suck things in and crush them isn’t at all like gravity then idk how you think it operates? If it operates the same as gravity as it’s been shown to (and called) it may as well be gravity. But even if you want to call it suction or magnetism or anything else, what matters is how it stacks up against Fuji.

BB has two things going for him over Fuji: 1.) his power is analogous/based on the idea of blackholes, which are seen as the end all be all of gravity/attractive forces in most fiction. And 2.) BB is likely stronger than Fuji as an individual. Which is relevant because fire can actually get much hotter than magma, yet Akainu’s magma was described as hotter than Ace’s fire. It’s the same for Oven, who could theoretically achieve heats greater than Akainu but likely can’t because he isn’t as strong as Akainu.

Also thank you for recognizing my intellect. I’m not sure I’m actually a genius, but I do appreciate the flattery.

 

[matt245]

Teach's statement is more believable considering we haven't even seen the upper bounds of the Yami Yami no no, like I said, nobody has escaped from its gravitation.

Same thing applies for Zoro, everything that he tried to cut was sliced so far.

 

[TheRealSJay]

Same thing applies for Zoro, everything that he tried to cut was sliced so far.

did zoro have the most dangerous devil fruit in history?

 

[matt245]

did zoro have the most dangerous devil fruit in history?

Does Black Beard have it? He proclaimed his own fruit as the most dangerous, that doesn't mean that it is real.

 

[TheRealSJay]

Does Black Beard have it? He proclaimed his own fruit as the most dangerous, that doesn't mean that it is real.

Do any other fruits have the ability to nulify other devil fruit users .

Even the power of the yami yami no mi's gravity is extremely potent.

Teach read the devil fruit encyclopaedia, meaning he's knowledgeable about fruits to a certain extent. Knowing that, if Teach was willing to wait 20+ years just for the chance to get his hands on a single, specific, individual devil fruit then its pretty safe to that it most likely IS the most dangerous in history.

 

[Germa66]

I’ve said earlier that I’m not entirely sure whether Blackbeard’s vortex/blackhole stuff is meant to be a literal representation of a blackhole in the OP word or not. It’s clearly not exactly like a blackhole in our world, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t Oda’s idea of a blackhole for his world he’s created. But either way it mimics the properties of gravity which is all that really matters when discussing who would win in a tug of war between him and Fuji which is the original question.

BB’s darkness has properties of a blackhole, which is in most fiction, the end all be all when it comes to gravity attacks. If you want to argue that whatever force BB is using to suck things in and crush them isn’t at all like gravity then idk how you think it operates? If it operates the same as gravity as it’s been shown to (and called) it may as well be gravity. But even if you want to call it suction or magnetism or anything else, what matters is how it stacks up against Fuji.

BB has two things going for him over Fuji: 1.) his power is analogous/based on the idea of blackholes, which are seen as the end all be all of gravity/attractive forces in most fiction. And 2.) BB is likely stronger than Fuji as an individual. Which is relevant because fire can actually get much hotter than magma, yet Akainu’s magma was described as hotter than Ace’s fire. It’s the same for Oven, who could theoretically achieve heats greater than Akainu but likely can’t because he isn’t as strong as Akainu.

Also thank you for recognizing my intellect. I’m not sure I’m actually a genius, but I do appreciate the flattery.

You keep hyping it up because it was specifically compared to a blackhole and somehow you believe it’s more potent than Fujitora’s despite the fact that it’s just regular gravity (if its gravity at all) and Fujitora’s control is far stronger and greater.

Blackbeard only calls it a blackhole because its black and suck things in, the term gravity might not even be true, just some random attraction force but obviously characters will immediately think gravity.

At the end of the day Fujitora can replicate everything Blackbeard’s gravity can do but FAR better, including launching mofos into space then sending them crashing into a real blackhole:

Do any other fruits have the ability to nulify other devil fruit users .

Even the power of the yami yami no mi's gravity is extremely potent.

Teach read the devil fruit encyclopaedia, meaning he's knowledgeable about fruits to a certain extent. Knowing that, if Teach was willing to wait 20+ years just for the chance to get his hands on a single, specific, individual devil fruit then its pretty safe to that it most likely IS the most dangerous in history.

Get a better argument. That weasly bastard saying his favorite fruit is the strongest doesn’t make it true.

Sanji argues otherwise.

Eneru’s was called invincible by multiple people and it in fact is better logia power >>>

Whitebeard has people Worldwide believe he’s was the strongest

Law’s fruit was called the strongest and most valued

I think Big Mom’s is the most dangerous
Seeing a pattern here? Yeah. Stop wanking character statements

 

[Just a member]

Depends on what the plot needs

 

[TheRealSJay]

You keep hyping it up because it was specifically compared to a blackhole and somehow you believe it’s more potent than Fujitora’s despite the fact that it’s just regular gravity (if its gravity at all) and Fujitora’s control is far stronger and greater.

Blackbeard only calls it a blackhole because its black and suck things in, the term gravity might not even be true, just some random attraction force but obviously characters will immediately think gravity.

At the end of the day Fujitora can replicate everything Blackbeard’s gravity can do but FAR better, including launching mofos into space then sending them crashing into a real blackhole:

Get a better argument. That weasly bastard saying his favorite fruit is the strongest doesn’t make it true.

Sanji argues otherwise.

Eneru’s was called invincible by multiple people and it in fact is better logia power >>>

Whitebeard has people Worldwide believe he’s was the strongest
Law’s fruit was called the strongest and most valued

I think Big Mom’s is the most dangerous
Seeing a pattern here? Yeah. Stop wanking character statements

Still haven't shown me any canon feats that the zushi zushi has had that puts it's gravity decisively above the Yami Yami.

Enerus fruit was a powerful logia agreed but it hasn't been hyped to he the most unique, dangerous or most evil devil fruit in history. The fact that the user got defeated by pre t's pre gears luffy really undermines its power though, even though it was because luffy wad rubber.


Knowing that blackbeard is cunning and decisive, and the fact He read the devil fruit encyclopedia, Why would he waste 20+ years on a ship to get a single fruit if the statements he had about it weren't true?

Fujitora hasn't shown any things such as powerful as black holes, the extent of his power so far is directional gravity and meteors. His gravity was weak enough to be escaped by Dressrosa Zoro whereas blackbeards gravity can crush buildings with infinity force and pull in a yonko second division commander.

Everyone of blackbeards attacks actually resemble and have properties of its name, such as:
- Black hole

The definition of a black hole is a district of spacetime where gravity is so strong nothing can escape from it.

Blackbeards uses an attack that draws things in with its overwhelming gravity and nothing can escape.


- Dark vortex

A vortex Is where fluids revolve around a axis in a circular motion, drawing things into its centre. Blackbeards uses the vortex to draw things or people into him.

Enels power was called invincible mainly because it was the first logia to be introduced, and all logia are invincible. Saying it's a better power than the Yami Yami is purely opinion based especially as facts and portrayal point towards it being the most powerful logia.

Whitebeards psramecia is ind3edd the strongest and most destructive psramecia, which is why when blackbeard paired it with the Yami Yami he called himself invincible as they were both the most powerful fruits in both of their categories.

Laws fruit was said to be value at 5 billion berries purely because it can give eternal youth with the sacrifice of the users own life, not because of its power which is misinformation.

Big moms fruit being the most powerful is purely an abstract statement with No indications or manga statements to show otherwise.



The fact that you called teach a "weasly bastard" shows you clearly have something against him, so it's not wise to argue about characters you dislike as your argument with have a negative bias.

 

[Germa66]

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Still haven't shown me any canon feats that the zushi zushi has had that puts it's gravity decisively above the Yami Yami.

Enerus fruit was a powerful logia agreed but it hasn't been hyped to he the most unique, dangerous or most evil devil fruit in history. The fact that the user got defeated by pre t's pre gears luffy really undermines its power though, even though it was because luffy wad rubber.


Knowing that blackbeard is cunning and decisive, and the fact He read the devil fruit encyclopedia, Why would he waste 20+ years on a ship to get a single fruit if the statements he had about it weren't true?

Fujitora hasn't shown any things such as powerful as black holes, the extent of his power so far is directional gravity and meteors. His gravity was weak enough to be escaped by Dressrosa Zoro whereas blackbeards gravity can crush buildings with infinity force and pull in a yonko second division commander.

Everyone of blackbeards attacks actually resemble and have properties of its name, such as:
- Black hole

The definition of a black hole is a district of spacetime where gravity is so strong nothing can escape from it.

Blackbeards uses an attack that draws things in with its overwhelming gravity and nothing can escape.


- Dark vortex

A vortex Is where fluids revolve around a axis in a circular motion, drawing things into its centre. Blackbeards uses the vortex to draw things or people into him.

Enels power was called invincible mainly because it was the first logia to be introduced, and all logia are invincible. Saying it's a better power than the Yami Yami is purely opinion based especially as facts and portrayal point towards it being the most powerful logia.

Whitebeards psramecia is ind3edd the strongest and most destructive psramecia, which is why when blackbeard paired it with the Yami Yami he called himself invincible as they were both the most powerful fruits in both of their categories.

Laws fruit was said to be value at 5 billion berries purely because it can give eternal youth with the sacrifice of the users own life, not because of its power which is misinformation.

Big moms fruit being the most powerful is purely an abstract statement with No indications or manga statements to show otherwise.



The fact that you called teach a "weasly bastard" shows you clearly have something against him, so it's not wise to argue about characters you dislike as your argument with have a negative bias.

Teech doesn’t have a blackhole or any attractive force that rivals Fujitora’s which can levitate a city and snatch meteors from outer space. Keep dreaming