Questions & Mysteries How strong is Blackbeard’s gravity?

[Germa66]

I’m willing to bet there is going to be a limitation on Fuji that prevents him from just crushing people outright similar to how Law can’t dissect people with sufficiently strong haki. Truly being able to apply the full force of Fuji’s gravity directly onto a person would be an instant win condition that would probably make him by far the strongest character in One Piece without rival. Either he won’t be able to do it because of haki or Oda just won’t ever let him generate the same amount of gravity on a person as he can to pull meteors.

As far as the pulling battle, I think BB would win because even if BB’s vortex isn’t written to be as powerful as a true black hole (the same way Kizaru’s light powers aren’t physics accurate either), even a sufficiently nerfed black hole should be able to overpower Fuji’s pull unless he creates his own black hole.

The thing you people can’t seem to comprehend is: Blackbeard’s darkness isn’t a blackbole to any extent. It was a comparison and hyperbole. He can only pull things in range closer.

And what kind of weird ass logic is that to say that gravity > gravity. One is a secondary effect the other is the element itself incarnated into a fruit.

This “blackhole” will have zero effect on Fujitora once he applies his own counter gravity.

Stop using the term blackhole so lightly while taking it seriously. If it were truly so he would instantly kill everyone while destroying everything in the vicinity but clearly the ground is immune to his “blackhole”

BB's black hole is only strong at drawing DF users. It's power is basically targeting the SF itself hence the user gets pulled along. Hence it is especially limited.

Fujitora's gravity is legit gravity.

Thanks you!! The “blackhole” wasn’t even damaging the environment around it. A real blackhole sucks in everything.

Blackbeard’s fanboys wank him way too hard. Fujitora has levitated a city worth of rubble and literally sends people to hell. Teech’s best feat is struggling to pull in Ace

 

[matt245]

What Black Beard uses isn't a literal black hole. A real black hole even if it's as small as a peanut has enough gravital force to suck the entire planet.

 

[Germa66]

I think people misinterpret by saying that Kizaru or Fujitora are especially nerfed by the Yami Yami when it's the opposite. Out of all DF users they have the best chances at fighting it.

"Even" light can't escape which means it has the highest chance and Fuji can definitely counter his gravity with his own.

Another thing is that at the end of the day, Blackbeard’s power is darkness and he needs it to be absolutely dark in order for his powers to work completely (go intangible and aborb powers) as light nerfs it.

Kizaru’s fruit only further increases the Yami Yami no Mi’s handicap. The guy was struggling to absorb fire that he himself compared to the sun, how in the blazes does he deal with light itself, something way brighter and intense than the Mera’s flames?

 

[Geo]

Just because he calls it "black hole" doesn't mean it is actually a black hole.
Characters name attacks however they like, it shouldn't be taken literally.
Niji for example calls his sword attack "light speed sword" ...doesn't mean it is actually light speed

 

[matt245]

Just because he calls it "black hole" doesn't mean it is actually a black hole.
Characters name attacks however they like, it shouldn't be taken literally.
Niji for example calls his sword attack "light speed sword" ...doesn't mean it is actually light speed

Zoro in his technique ISDS states that there is nothing that he can not cut. Conclusion: he is able to cut everything in the Universe because he said so.

 

[Germa66]

Just because he calls it "black hole" doesn't mean it is actually a black hole.
Characters name attacks however they like, it shouldn't be taken literally.
Niji for example calls his sword attack "light speed sword" ...doesn't mean it is actually light speed

Blackbeard also called Ace’s flames the sun

 

[MarineHQ]

Another thing is that at the end of the day, Blackbeard’s power is darkness and he needs it to be absolutely dark in order for his powers to work completely (go intangible and aborb powers) as light nerfs it.

Kizaru’s fruit only further increases the Yami Yami no Mi’s handicap. The guy was struggling to absorb fire that he himself compared to the sun, how in the blazes does he deal with light itself, something way brighter and intense than the Mera’s flames?

There's also the popular theory that the reason the Yami Yami doesn't grant intangability is due too the constant exposure to the Sun light, even at night. BB can only truly turn into his element when there's no light at all.

Kizaru would be a great nerf in that case

 

[Luffy is the mc]

It's a different type of gravity. People can resist Fujitora's gravity or fight it back, we've seen that it is impossible with BB when he uses it on DF (not too sure about non df's users). BB basically nerfs every df user in the game with his.

 

[Germa66]

There's also the popular theory that the reason the Yami Yami doesn't grant intangability is due too the constant exposure to the Sun light, even at night. BB can only truly turn into his element when there's no light at all.

Kizaru would be a great nerf in that case

Luffy and Blackbeard’s final battle:

Luffy will need all the Future Sight he can muster in order to fight in complete darkness

 

[NAMELESS]

Well? I see so many nutcases state that Blackbeards gravity is better than the literal gravity devil fruit that Fujitora has so I’m curious as to what feats he has that makes people say such stupidity.

Can he pull a meteor from outer space?

not as strong as fuji's!

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I think yami yami awakening might turn day to night,making the fruit effect stronger!

 

[Finalbeta]

What Black Beard uses isn't a literal black hole. A real black hole even if it's as small as a peanut has enough gravital force to suck the entire planet.

The point I guess is that figuratively that has still been hyped as the strongest attractive force source, considering how Blackbeard himself inferred it would be able to suck even light in.

 

[matt245]

The point I guess is that figuratively that has still been hyped as the strongest attractive force source, considering how Blackbeard himself inferred it would be able to suck even light in.

You shouldn't rlly believe everything that a character says when he is releasing an attack. Just look at Zoro, before he uses his ISDS he claims that he can cut everything in the Universe.

 

[Finalbeta]

You shouldn't rlly believe everything that a character says when he is releasing an attack. Just look at Zoro, before he uses his ISDS he claims that he can cut everything in the Universe.

Of course I do not necessarily believe it, but I don't want to dismiss it. If not there's more substance towards one direction than the other. It's that simple. I don't recall that thing about Zoro anyway?

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

It's mystery gravity - in other words defy logic so don't think about it.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Stop using the term blackhole so lightly while taking it seriously. If it were truly so he would instantly kill everyone while destroying everything in the vicinity but clearly the ground is immune to his “blackhole”

So would Kizaru moving at light speed, or Fuji’s gravity, or Oven’s heat, etc. Lots of anime powers are physics inaccurate to avoid breaking the story completely.

BB’s blackhole could actually be a blackhole in One Piece and not have the same realm of actual force behind it as a real blackhole. Just like Kizaru couldn’t be moving at true “light speed” as it exists in our universe.

I’m not sure if BB’s vortex is actually supposed to be a blackhole or not. But using real world physics and applying it to One Piece to say it can’t possibly be is a bad argument against it.

If it turns out to only suck in DF users that will be definitive evidence it’s only called that and isn’t actually one at all.

And what kind of weird ass logic is that to say that gravity > gravity. One is a secondary effect the other is the element itself incarnated into a fruit.

Its the same argument that says heat > heat when talking about Akainu vs Oven. Just because Oven has the heat heat fruit, doesn’t mean he can reach the same destructive temperatures as an Admiral, otherwise Oven would be much much more feared as he would have in Oda’s words “the highest offensive power among DFs” equal to Akainu.

 

[nik87]

Blackbeard: Why cant I pull you in, Mugiwara?!
Luffy: Because my haki is too strong.

 

[[No Name]]

Blackbeard: Why cant I pull you in, Mugiwara?!
Luffy: Because my haki is too strong.

I definitely think this Is what will happen.

 

[matt245]

Of course I do not necessarily believe it, but I don't want to dismiss it. If not there's more substance towards one direction than the other. It's that simple. I don't recall that thing about Zoro anyway?

The ISDS that he used against Pica, look at his speech.

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I definitely think this Is what will happen.

Oda is strating to use Haki as a way to nerf op dfs. Look at Law.

 

[TheRealSJay]

Teach's gravitation was said to be infinite, it can pull things in and spew things out, and so far - Nobody has escaped the Yami Yami's gravitational force, not anyone.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Blackbeard: Why cant I pull you in, Mugiwara?!
Luffy: Because my haki is too strong.

Salting already? That's not like you dude, stay calm, Blackbeard will look strong against any opponent at this point of the story