Future Events How strong will the world government be in the final war?

#61
I mean they can be fighters but not as strong as admirals while also being just as annoying to fight.

Imu could very well just have insane conquerors haki such that his conquerors coating is so strong he’s untouchable or he has other abilities.

The Gorosei are going to fight the rest of the EB5 and Sabo as they more than likely stand for the five precepts of Buddhism:

1. No War - Sabo the soldier
2. No Stealing - Nami the thief
3. No Bearing False Witness - Usopp the liar
4. No sexual misconduct - Sanji the Pervert
5. No Intoxication - Zoro the Alcoholic

I believe each of these five will have prior fights before the Gorosei so they’ll already be weakened anyways.
Gorosei stand for UN security council though
 
#63
Imu is gonna turn out to be another Orochi, albeit a serious one.
I'm gonna be sad if it's the case. In shonen, the godly figure is usually godlike in powerlevel. Gorosei dont have to obey him either if they can use force to control him, so if Imu is gonna be a strategist without unmatched strength then its gonna feel stale for me at least
 
#66
I'm gonna be sad if it's the case. In shonen, the godly figure is usually godlike in powerlevel. Gorosei dont have to obey him either if they can use force to control him, so if Imu is gonna be a strategist without unmatched strength then its gonna feel stale for me at least
As long as it works on an ideological level, i would be fine with it. Oda does not have to go to the same place every other well known Shonen went. Naruto had Kaguya, Bleach had the grandfather (i think he was called Yachwei?), it´s usually pretty dull.
 
#67
The Yonko rule large parts of the new world. More importantly, the strongest countries. Fishmen island was under Whitebeard's protection, Wano belongs to Kaido, Elbaf is probably allied with Shanks. WG only rules over fodder countries.
For the Gorosei the Yonkou ( and Admirals) are merely replaceable tools holding up the current status quo for them. The Yonkou prevent the rise of a new PK due to the deadlock, that's about it. They could seriously never become a threat that could take over the WG.

As we've seen when it's time to get rid of the current system the Gorosei just do the great cleansing.
 
#68
For the Gorosei the Yonkou ( and Admirals) are merely replaceable tools holding up the current status quo for them
The Gorosei are in shock of 2 Yonko meeting. 2 Yonko teaming up is viewed as a huge threat. All 4 Yonko with their allies combined would be too much for the WG to handle.
 
#69
As long as it works on an ideological level, i would be fine with it. Oda does not have to go to the same place every other well known Shonen went. Naruto had Kaguya, Bleach had the grandfather (i think he was called Yachwei?), it´s usually pretty dull.
Yeah the problem with godlike figure the author get no answer how to handle that kind of figure. I also hope for Oda to had "someone" appear in an arc after Wano, and had deep interaction with Luffy in a moment, a long dialogue consisting of different perspective in viewing things like power and victory and dreams and what we should hold dear etc.

After that, we see "this someone" from time to time in various scenes and chapters, being melancholic or being in a state of deep thinking or deep conversing with others, and also being surrounded in wars etc, contemplating about freedom and destiny, which one was more righteous, showing us his feelings and inner struggle, char development etc, making us rooting for him like we root for a protagonist,

...until one decisive moment in the very last final arc climactic battle, where its revealed that "this someone" is Imu.

Just like Moriarty in 1st season of BBC Sherlock. If only Oda can build up that kind of twist, i think it'd be the most explosive and beautiful moment.

The rest is narrative i guess. If Imu has powers to warp reality, Oda can always make Luffy get another final powerup to destroy dimensions or something, just like shonen standards. But yeah i also want ideological clash.
 
#70
The Gorosei are in shock of 2 Yonko meeting. 2 Yonko teaming up is viewed as a huge threat. All 4 Yonko with their allies combined would be too much for the WG to handle.
No it wouldn't. Marineford + Shichibukai alone equal the Yonkou. The WG isn't even included in this.

All Cipher pol units, Impel down, Kong, Gorosei and IM are left out.

The WG is much mightier than the Yonkou
 
#71
Yeah the problem with godlike figure the author get no answer how to handle that kind of figure. I also hope for Oda to had "someone" appear in an arc after Wano, and had deep interaction with Luffy in a moment, a long dialogue consisting of different perspective in viewing things like power and victory and dreams and what we should hold dear etc.

After that, we see "this someone" from time to time in various scenes and chapters, being melancholic or being in a state of deep thinking or deep conversing with others, and also being surrounded in wars etc, contemplating about freedom and destiny, which one was more righteous, showing us his feelings and inner struggle, char development etc, making us rooting for him like we root for a protagonist,

...until one decisive moment in the very last final arc climactic battle, where its revealed that "this someone" is Imu.

Just like Moriarty in 1st season of BBC Sherlock. If only Oda can build up that kind of twist, i think it'd be the most explosive and beautiful moment.


The rest is narrative i guess. If Imu has powers to warp reality, Oda can always make Luffy get another final powerup to destroy dimensions or something, just like shonen standards. But yeah i also want ideological clash.
Well Bleach did that with Aizen for a while, but that went down the drain pretty quickly.
 
#72
The Marines alone with SSG are attempting to balance the Yonko . and they're the "gate" to Mariejois , based on this , i think the force Strawhats & Allies will face in Mariejois will at least be as strong as Marines , if not stronger

overall , the World Government is the most powerful force in the world by a long shot

i also believe the Gorosei could very well turn out to be top tier fighters , the clue might be the Shodai Kitetsu one of them holds , and if we look at other Supreme Grade Blades owners :

Roger - Ace
Whitebeard - Murakumogiri
Mihawk - Yoru

they were/are all top tiers . so while that one Ghandi looking elder has the strongest case of turning out to be a top tier currently , i believe the other 4 could turn out to be top tiers too considering they're also Imu's main underlings ( and i believe Imu is the Final Villain ) .
 

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#73
i'm calling it right now, some of the marines would betray WG, like Garp, Coby, Smoker, Drake, SWORD too or even Fujitora.
Yeah Fujitora is a great bet. He is so against Absolute Justice despite he cares for the Marine. But he might wish to become Neutral Party and trust a new order to arise.
 
#75
Yeah Fujitora is a great bet. He is so against Absolute Justice despite he cares for the Marine. But he might wish to become Neutral Party and trust a new order to arise.
yes, its wouldnt mean literal allies to the pirates or revolutionary, but only fight for clean government or something like that
 
#76
No it wouldn't. Marineford + Shichibukai alone equal the Yonkou. The WG isn't even included in this.

All Cipher pol units, Impel down, Kong, Gorosei and IM are left out.

The WG is much mightier than the Yonkou
MarineHQ+Shichibukai balancing the Yonko that aren't a unified force. MarineHQ+Shichibukai are the fifth player, not a force opposing all 4 Yonko combined.

Hence Sengoku said it's not clear whether they will beat Whitebeard, even though it was MarineHQ+Shichibukai+Pacifista+home advantage (Siege Wall, etc.)

And Shanks was confident enough to challenge them, with the Marines realizing the threat.

Wouldn't make sense if Marines were 4 times as strong
 
#77
MarineHQ+Shichibukai balancing the Yonko that aren't a unified force. MarineHQ+Shichibukai are the fifth player, not a force opposing all 4 Yonko combined.

Hence Sengoku said it's not clear whether they will beat Whitebeard, even though it was MarineHQ+Shichibukai+Pacifista+home advantage (Siege Wall, etc.)

And Shanks was confident enough to challenge them, with the Marines realizing the threat.

Wouldn't make sense if Marines were 4 times as strong
That was never said. The Balance sees the Yonkou as a United force. Going by that logic each Yonkou crew ~ MarineHQ/Shichibukai which was proven wrong during MF.

Shanks being confident in challenging the Marines doesn't say much. If the WG's forces were all committed The Red hair pirates would've gotten wiped out as Mihawk already stalls Shanks while the Admirals/Sengoku/Garp stomp the rest.

- Marine HQ with all of the Marines in the world, Shichibukai with their crews ~ Combined forces of the Yonkou

There's a reason why Oda coincidentally has 4 Top Tiers on each side with Mihawk/Ben being wild cards.
 
#78
MarineHQ+Shichibukai balancing the Yonko that aren't a unified force. MarineHQ+Shichibukai are the fifth player, not a force opposing all 4 Yonko combined.

Hence Sengoku said it's not clear whether they will beat Whitebeard, even though it was MarineHQ+Shichibukai+Pacifista+home advantage (Siege Wall, etc.)

And Shanks was confident enough to challenge them, with the Marines realizing the threat.

Wouldn't make sense if Marines were 4 times as strong
And yet Marineford had an overwhelming victory where Garp and Sengoku did not even have to participate for the most part. They didn’t just fight the Whitebeard pirates but an entire fleet of allied pirate crews as well along with escapees of impel down.

This was also without CP0 who are said to be the ultimate shield of the celestial dragons, Warlords switching sides such as Jinbe/Boa/Crocodile/Blackbeard all being detrimental to the world governments side in this fight.

Without the warlords, the World government has supposedly gotten stronger. They’ll also have CP0 as well.
 
#79
And yet Marineford had an overwhelming victory where Garp and Sengoku did not even have to participate for the most part. They didn’t just fight the Whitebeard pirates but an entire fleet of allied pirate crews as well along with escapees of impel down.
Well. Whitebeard was a corpse getting heart attacks and unable to use CoC to even save Ace from the first execution try.

Though yeah. Marine HQ > 1 Yonko crew
 
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