Speculations How was 30 broken bones Zoro able to do what Snitch couldn't?
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? Must have watched a different marineford because the one i saw had mihawk's attack stopped by jozu, admitting inferiority to cancer ridden not able to use advanced haki WB and VANISHING as soon as shanks appeared.
On the other hand, shanks stopped a war, made akainu shit his pants and stopped kaido from going to marineford.
On the other hand, shanks stopped a war, made akainu shit his pants and stopped kaido from going to marineford.
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I never gave yonkou fandom that win because There are consequences to angering a Emperor of the sea.
Greenbull wasn't assigned to that , he went unofficially and it could have lead to war between marines and Emperor and both side always tries to avoid direct confrontation no matter what. even WB showed up only when ace was about to executed.
I personally believe yonkou > Admirals but the fight will be extreme-high diff no matter what. Wankers never learn.
Greenbull wasn't assigned to that , he went unofficially and it could have lead to war between marines and Emperor and both side always tries to avoid direct confrontation no matter what. even WB showed up only when ace was about to executed.
I personally believe yonkou > Admirals but the fight will be extreme-high diff no matter what. Wankers never learn.
Because only MCs are allowed to do significant shit.
And because their clash was just that. A clash. But it was enough for kaido to see that Shanks was above him and Put him with the likes of Roger and WB and Rocks.
If anything, this speaks to shanks's strength. That kaido would stand down and run back to Wano after just a small clash and would put him together with people that would and have beat him.
And because their clash was just that. A clash. But it was enough for kaido to see that Shanks was above him and Put him with the likes of Roger and WB and Rocks.
If anything, this speaks to shanks's strength. That kaido would stand down and run back to Wano after just a small clash and would put him together with people that would and have beat him.
If anything, this speaks to shanks's strength. That kaido would stand down and run back to Wano after just a small clash and would put him together with people that would and have beat him.
Prime WB never challenged Kaido despite Kaido going out of wano for expeditions. Kaido > Prime WB.
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Kaido never challenged WB either. So by your own logic, WB>Kaido
How does that work?
WB had his family excuse. Kaido wanted a challenge and great death. So what's kaido's excuse?
Kaido is done. He's fucking dead. Standard shonen powerscaling applies to OP too.
Shanks, and any subsequent main threats, will be stronger than kaido.
Idc if you want to cope by pretending it's not gonna happen. You should just accept it tho.
How does that work?
WB had his family excuse. Kaido wanted a challenge and great death. So what's kaido's excuse?
Kaido is done. He's fucking dead. Standard shonen powerscaling applies to OP too.
Shanks, and any subsequent main threats, will be stronger than kaido.
Idc if you want to cope by pretending it's not gonna happen. You should just accept it tho.
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Bro was ready to crash Marineford party lol.
Kaidou was removed before handedly because he was Too OP to exist.
Kaidou top 5 only said "Capable" of fighting him , and yet proceeded to bonk luffy twice after that.
there's a difference in capable of fighting and actually winning.
Top 5 are swordsman and if not AdCoC user with Insane AP of DF.
Swords + adCoC are worst match up for Kaidou.
Kaidou was removed before handedly because he was Too OP to exist.
Kaidou top 5 only said "Capable" of fighting him , and yet proceeded to bonk luffy twice after that.
there's a difference in capable of fighting and actually winning.
Top 5 are swordsman and if not AdCoC user with Insane AP of DF.
Swords + adCoC are worst match up for Kaidou.
--Kaido did indeed challenged WB as his intro said , and even single handedly.
--WB went on suicide mission to save ace and garp even mentioned that even if ace died , WB would have come. Why would WB have a different out look against Kaido?
--Not at all. Only Imu and Eos BB and maybe Lakainu (if he ends up as a big arc villain) are going to be above Kaido. Shanks main story is to fight BB and lose logically. He will clash with luffy at some point but he isn't set up to be a villain like others I mentioned.
--Kizaru also a threat sucked compared to Kaido for example.
--It is you who give importance to an off screen fight lol
--WB went on suicide mission to save ace and garp even mentioned that even if ace died , WB would have come. Why would WB have a different out look against Kaido?
--Not at all. Only Imu and Eos BB and maybe Lakainu (if he ends up as a big arc villain) are going to be above Kaido. Shanks main story is to fight BB and lose logically. He will clash with luffy at some point but he isn't set up to be a villain like others I mentioned.
--Kizaru also a threat sucked compared to Kaido for example.
--It is you who give importance to an off screen fight lol
shanks literally challenged everyone at marineford
When kidd came , shanks presented 2 options
1. Either run away while leaving ur ponygelphs
2. GEt destroyed by us
Shanks end of the day still wants to get the onepiece
If he ever encountered kidd pirates , he would have taken the ponygelph no matter what
Trying to keep the balance of the world doesn’t mean shanks simply doesn’t wanna fight anyone
It is not abt staying true to any character
What u said destroys kaido’s character
If shanks somehow fights kaido , that won’t hurt shanks’ character one bit
is literally searching for a strong opponent and a place to die but when that opponent actually comes
He will simply run away ??
doesn’t make any sense
Powerlevel wise , kaido getting wifi diffed is also very weird
When kidd came , shanks presented 2 options
1. Either run away while leaving ur ponygelphs
2. GEt destroyed by us
Shanks end of the day still wants to get the onepiece
If he ever encountered kidd pirates , he would have taken the ponygelph no matter what
Trying to keep the balance of the world doesn’t mean shanks simply doesn’t wanna fight anyone
It is not abt staying true to any character
What u said destroys kaido’s character
If shanks somehow fights kaido , that won’t hurt shanks’ character one bit
is literally searching for a strong opponent and a place to die but when that opponent actually comes
He will simply run away ??
doesn’t make any sense
Powerlevel wise , kaido getting wifi diffed is also very weird
As opposed to you zoro fans pretending Mihawk is > Roger WB rocks and everyone in the manga?
At least have a little self awareness
Did he though?
And he got deterred by shanks and his crew alone. If kaido was as strong as you pretend, he would have just gone through after beating shanks. Instead he ran back to wano like a good little boy. And then had shanks in his top 5 lol.
No. Kaido was beaten because he was an arc villain. That's what arc villains do. They get beaten. And kaido died cause he wanted a death.
Like, we didn't see Don't Kreig and Gin after Baratie. Does that mean they were that much of a threat that oda had to remove them from the story?
Rocks - his captain and the dude who had multiple yonko under him.
Roger - the dude who beat his captain, and also the dude who kaido glazes up constantly every chance he gets.
WB - another dude who kaido glazes up constantly. And was Rogers equal.
Lolden - the dude who beat kaido and had him at death's door were it not for cheap tricks.
Shanks - the dude who send kaido back to wano. A kaido that was ready to take on the entire marine Ford by your own admission.
And he asked luffy how high his potential will go. So how strong luffy would be in the future. He didn't put luffy with those 5. This is what happens when you have no reading comprehension...
Yet he was beaten by a rubber goof with a giant fist...
And his intro also said he got beaten 7 times lol. One of those was probably WB. One of them might even be Shanks lmao.
Don't intro scale. You're gonna lose from kaidos own intro statements.
Because that's how stories work. And that's also why Oden and his whole character and flashback is trash.
Kaido needed to be kept alive until the MCs beat him. So oda gave a lame excuse for WB.
Lolden was in wano with the whole pirate King crew and that retard didn't even think if beating kaido with their help. We know they easily could have. Because Oden alone beat kaido.
But, because it's a story, oda didn't kill off kaido the main villain of that arc in the flashback.
That's the same reason WB didn't go and attack kaido.
And also, WB thought Ace was the next PK and the one who would lead the world against the WG. Roger thought it was Ace and Roger talked with WB. That's why WB risked his life for Ace.
Hmm. So op will have like 3 main arcs at best. And you yourself have 3 villains above kaido.
Then why the fuck are you putting kaido above everyone else?
Shanks main story isn't gonna be just that. He's connected to the One piece, the celestials and the whole story. But keep dreaming though.
Besides the fact that Kizaru isn't going all out and we haven't seen what he can do fully,
Egg head isn't a main arc. It's an intermittent arc. And Kizaru is not the main villain by the looks of it either. The gorosei seems to be above the yonko too. So that's 5 more dudes above your precious kaido...
Because that's the only interaction we know of kaido and shanks lol.
And we know the result of that. Which is kaido ran back to wano even though he was determined to die a great death in marine Ford...
It's not favourable to you. So you try to ignore it's significance and the implications of Kaido putting shanks with legends like Roger WB and Rocks and also a dude who almost beat him.
But yeah. I'm giving false importance to it...
At least have a little self awareness
Did he though?
And he got deterred by shanks and his crew alone. If kaido was as strong as you pretend, he would have just gone through after beating shanks. Instead he ran back to wano like a good little boy. And then had shanks in his top 5 lol.
No. Kaido was beaten because he was an arc villain. That's what arc villains do. They get beaten. And kaido died cause he wanted a death.
Like, we didn't see Don't Kreig and Gin after Baratie. Does that mean they were that much of a threat that oda had to remove them from the story?
Rocks - his captain and the dude who had multiple yonko under him.
Roger - the dude who beat his captain, and also the dude who kaido glazes up constantly every chance he gets.
WB - another dude who kaido glazes up constantly. And was Rogers equal.
Lolden - the dude who beat kaido and had him at death's door were it not for cheap tricks.
Shanks - the dude who send kaido back to wano. A kaido that was ready to take on the entire marine Ford by your own admission.
And he asked luffy how high his potential will go. So how strong luffy would be in the future. He didn't put luffy with those 5. This is what happens when you have no reading comprehension...
Yet he was beaten by a rubber goof with a giant fist...
And his intro also said he got beaten 7 times lol. One of those was probably WB. One of them might even be Shanks lmao.
Don't intro scale. You're gonna lose from kaidos own intro statements.
Because that's how stories work. And that's also why Oden and his whole character and flashback is trash.
Kaido needed to be kept alive until the MCs beat him. So oda gave a lame excuse for WB.
Lolden was in wano with the whole pirate King crew and that retard didn't even think if beating kaido with their help. We know they easily could have. Because Oden alone beat kaido.
But, because it's a story, oda didn't kill off kaido the main villain of that arc in the flashback.
That's the same reason WB didn't go and attack kaido.
And also, WB thought Ace was the next PK and the one who would lead the world against the WG. Roger thought it was Ace and Roger talked with WB. That's why WB risked his life for Ace.
Hmm. So op will have like 3 main arcs at best. And you yourself have 3 villains above kaido.
Then why the fuck are you putting kaido above everyone else?
Shanks main story isn't gonna be just that. He's connected to the One piece, the celestials and the whole story. But keep dreaming though.
Besides the fact that Kizaru isn't going all out and we haven't seen what he can do fully,
Egg head isn't a main arc. It's an intermittent arc. And Kizaru is not the main villain by the looks of it either. The gorosei seems to be above the yonko too. So that's 5 more dudes above your precious kaido...
Because that's the only interaction we know of kaido and shanks lol.
And we know the result of that. Which is kaido ran back to wano even though he was determined to die a great death in marine Ford...
It's not favourable to you. So you try to ignore it's significance and the implications of Kaido putting shanks with legends like Roger WB and Rocks and also a dude who almost beat him.
But yeah. I'm giving false importance to it...
And his intro also said he got beaten 7 times lol. One of those was probably WB. One of them might even be Shanks lmao.
Don't intro scale. You're gonna lose from kaidos own intro statements.
Because that's how stories work. And that's also why Oden and his whole character and flashback is trash.
Kaido needed to be kept alive until the MCs beat him. So oda gave a lame excuse for WB.
Lolden was in wano with the whole pirate King crew and that retard didn't even think if beating kaido with their help. We know they easily could have. Because Oden alone beat kaido.
But, because it's a story, oda didn't kill off kaido the main villain of that arc in the flashback.
That's the same reason WB didn't go and attack kaido.
And also, WB thought Ace was the next PK and the one who would lead the world against the WG. Roger thought it was Ace and Roger talked with WB. That's why WB risked his life for Ace.
Hmm. So op will have like 3 main arcs at best. And you yourself have 3 villains above kaido.
Then why the fuck are you putting kaido above everyone else?
Shanks main story isn't gonna be just that. He's connected to the One piece, the celestials and the whole story. But keep dreaming though.
Besides the fact that Kizaru isn't going all out and we haven't seen what he can do fully,
Egg head isn't a main arc. It's an intermittent arc. And Kizaru is not the main villain by the looks of it either. The gorosei seems to be above the yonko too. So that's 5 more dudes above your precious kaido...
Because that's the only interaction we know of kaido and shanks lol.
And we know the result of that. Which is kaido ran back to wano even though he was determined to die a great death in marine Ford...
It's not favourable to you. So you try to ignore it's significance and the implications of Kaido putting shanks with legends like Roger WB and Rocks and also a dude who almost beat him.
But yeah. I'm giving false importance to it...
Don't intro scale. You're gonna lose from kaidos own intro statements.
Because that's how stories work. And that's also why Oden and his whole character and flashback is trash.
Kaido needed to be kept alive until the MCs beat him. So oda gave a lame excuse for WB.
Lolden was in wano with the whole pirate King crew and that retard didn't even think if beating kaido with their help. We know they easily could have. Because Oden alone beat kaido.
But, because it's a story, oda didn't kill off kaido the main villain of that arc in the flashback.
That's the same reason WB didn't go and attack kaido.
And also, WB thought Ace was the next PK and the one who would lead the world against the WG. Roger thought it was Ace and Roger talked with WB. That's why WB risked his life for Ace.
Hmm. So op will have like 3 main arcs at best. And you yourself have 3 villains above kaido.
Then why the fuck are you putting kaido above everyone else?
Shanks main story isn't gonna be just that. He's connected to the One piece, the celestials and the whole story. But keep dreaming though.
Besides the fact that Kizaru isn't going all out and we haven't seen what he can do fully,
Egg head isn't a main arc. It's an intermittent arc. And Kizaru is not the main villain by the looks of it either. The gorosei seems to be above the yonko too. So that's 5 more dudes above your precious kaido...
Because that's the only interaction we know of kaido and shanks lol.
And we know the result of that. Which is kaido ran back to wano even though he was determined to die a great death in marine Ford...
It's not favourable to you. So you try to ignore it's significance and the implications of Kaido putting shanks with legends like Roger WB and Rocks and also a dude who almost beat him.
But yeah. I'm giving false importance to it...
--Oda needed Kaido to do that and this. We are going by what is in the manga. WB never challenged Kaido and gave a BS casualty excuse.
--Lolden never beat Kaido. Kaido immediately got up and was going to fight him. Even scabbards made dragon Kaido fall with only difference that they were not strong enough to open his scar. Kaido in hybrid didn't fall from a stronger attack in asura from zoro and didn't fall proving Hybrid Kaido > dragon Kaido.
--Its a story hence my claim wins even though its head canon.
--Because shanks simply isn't one of luffy's main big fight lol. His main is thing is to jobb to BB.
--One attack did Kizaru in. One adv coc attack lol.
--Its not really. Kaido in 1043 or 1044 said no one can beat him which included shanks. This means what ever happened between their off screen fight , Kaido still held himself as superior combatant. And shanks had his own crew + Kaido was still held as world's strongest and not shanks.
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As opposed to you zoro fans pretending Mihawk is > Roger WB rocks and everyone in the manga?
At least have a little self awareness
At least have a little self awareness
Shanks gave him Nika heads up lol and he aint the nika or joyboy.
given shanks and kaidou has no scar they never fought lmao.
Lmao , you're another one with no Reading comprehension lmao.
rocks - Never had Yonkou under him , they became yonkou later on in the series , there power level varies by a lot of margins lol.
roger - Fighting a 18-20 yo old kaido lol , do you even read your own posts before writing the bullshit. roger beat rocks in 2v1 lol , Bro was talking about reading comprehension doesn't know how what canonically happens. lol
WB - wasnt yonkou level when he served under Ricks lmao.
shanks - would have died if they actually fought lol , they never fought.
Lmao he's current potential is running out of battery after landing only one punhc to an admiral who wasn't even trying to fight.
That's plot armour lol.
he took 3 L's before that + magicla recovery.
throw current luffy and kaido in to a new 1v1 and kaido wins lol.
