Questions & Mysteries How would have the war changed with Doflamingo in Onigashima?

#23
Worse threatment, not the same masterpiece background story as he get in Dressrosa. No among of hype as he get in DR, he would probably be the third most opinion since King and Queen would take more hype then Doffy. He would get defeated by Law in a 1on1(with let me believe that current Law could be already above Doffy) before Law would get up to Kaido, with meaning his performance and also feats would be even worse.

In that case no Sanji hype,no meteor hype or any other big hype since Kaido,King and Queen would steal his show,perhaps he would probably take down early then the other beast pirates duo the point that Law need to defeat him first until joining the battle at the rooftop.

Doffy and his fans can be happy that Doffy get his own arc, own great background story and hype in one of the longest arc. If he would be in Wano most like his screentime wouldn't be even 1/4 of that what he take in Dressrosa.
 
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#30
We really can’t tell because we don’t know when the plan around Doffy was changed.

People are talking about Law. But if Doflamingo on Wano was the original plan, thought up when Doflamingo first appeared after Alabasta, then Law didn’t even exist as a concept back then. So the main plotline everyone is suggesting, that Doflamingo would have been Law’s fight, couldn’t be an option.

Also, Oda makes things up as he goes along a lot. He doesn’t really hide that in interviews. I think the biggest example of that in Wano is Big Mom’s presence, which I’m almost certain is something that was thrown in pretty late, much like Shanks showing up at Marineford. That could mean Oda didn’t have any more of an idea of what would happen with Doflamongo other than “we’ll deal with him on Wano with Kaido.” He might not even have planned him to be an ex-Celestial Dragon originally.
 
#31
Well Law would face him. But he would have to face him with another character in order to win. As Oda has shown in recent chapters, Law is basically employing the same arsenal he's had since DR.
He would probably have to fight DD with Drake + plot in extreme diff match
 

Veku

Flamboyant
#36
We really can’t tell because we don’t know when the plan around Doffy was changed.

People are talking about Law. But if Doflamingo on Wano was the original plan, thought up when Doflamingo first appeared after Alabasta, then Law didn’t even exist as a concept back then. So the main plotline everyone is suggesting, that Doflamingo would have been Law’s fight, couldn’t be an option.

Also, Oda makes things up as he goes along a lot. He doesn’t really hide that in interviews. I think the biggest example of that in Wano is Big Mom’s presence, which I’m almost certain is something that was thrown in pretty late, much like Shanks showing up at Marineford. That could mean Oda didn’t have any more of an idea of what would happen with Doflamongo other than “we’ll deal with him on Wano with Kaido.” He might not even have planned him to be an ex-Celestial Dragon originally.
Well, we know that Oda originally planned to make Doffy a powerful ally of Kaido, so based on that we can at least tell that he'll originally planned for Doffy to play a bigger role in Wano.

I think what Kaido said about Doffy in his introduction may be a left over of his original plan(a little easter egg you could say?), solidifying what Oda said.
 
#37
So as we know the story it would be the fight for Law, but Joker goes back much further.

I think between what we have in Coby training with Garp and meeting with Rebecca and Kyros, we'd have had a God Valley styled team up either in place of or as a parallel. I think Drake is a placeholder of sorts too.

The thing I know for sure is no birdcage, that's a completely shoehorned idea.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#38
this is highly unlikely. this is essentially saying, "oda has put a major character in a position for no reason." writing 101 - nothing is done without purpose. the idea that law would have no role in this fight also belies the fact that this fight is the entire point of the Straw Heart alliance formed on punk hazard. in fact, you could argue that oda introduced gamma knife vs. doflamingo expressly to set up internal damage which has become crucial to this current fight. oda would have to be a pretty inept writer to have an alliance building for hundreds of chapters and provide no pay off.

strategically, you don't get rid of the paddle in your boat if it leaves you stranded up the stream with no way home. doflamingo is the paddle in this case. oda got rid of him early, so there's some other story piece that has taken his place. in my opinion, it's the fact that this battle is no longer just about toppling a yonko, but also serves as a fight with One Piece, the poneglyphs, and Pirate King title on the line. this means Kid, Law, and Luffy should be the premier fighters when you consider what the fight represents.
That makes no sense. Luffy kid and law wont be pirate king. Only luffy will. Luffy left law behind in dressrosa and will do the same to kidd now.
Law had no actual plan for kaido in punk hazard
he only said that to get luffy on board to his plan to take down doflamingo
a plan he himself fucked up by getting too caught into taking down doflamingo himself instead of letting kaido do it despite sanji warning him not to
the theme for this arc is clear its the finalisation of kozuki odens story and dream to free wano and take kaido out and open its borders
law and kidd would have been front and center all arc with all the build up if that were the case but they werent
its clear the two being pushed are the two who had the most panel time and the two that were shown to train for this fight
 
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