Speculations How would you frame the presumed last 3 arcs?
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I actually agree, I think it might be a free-for-all at first. Everybody is involved, I find it even hard to imagine that BBP vs SHP will be isolated. It’s hard to write multiple scenarios where 2 major factions conveniently gets isolated in a row. Like RHP and BBP just happens to meet randomly in an isolated island? Then the same shit will happen to BBP vs SHP? Lol, that’s bad writing. Every piece is moving and will try to interfere with one another.
Exactly might point. Maybe Im not sounding as negative as Im trying to convey, I think thats exactly what will happen lol.
But imo, thats the best we'll get. The difference is Shanks vs Blackbeard probably wouldnt be like Law/Kid vs BM because there probably wouldnt be a victor between them, at least not in some random isolated event unless you need to believe Blackbeard defeats Shanks.
The only thing we can hope for is that Oda doesnt bring a million secondary and tertiary characters and involve them. Do the Strawhat Fleet and Yamato make sense? Yes. Do we need to have Rebecca or Kyros or any other arc ally take up screentime? No.
How I personally see things going is all of this being in service to Luffy. Luffy will just end up defeating Shanks, Blackbeard, Akainu, Imu, etc, none of them will defeat each other. Cant say the same rule applies to the rest of the crew, but in that way I cant see anyone but Zoro defeating Mihawk, Shiryu, whichever Admiral, etc either.
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They cannot do this guys. We learned that ordinary maps do not work in grandline very early on in this series. Skipping islands does not work without an eternal pose. Picking an island between the RPs very likely requires you to be at Lodestar first, following whatever set of directions it provides outside of just matching a spot in GL.
At that point, however Oda explains it, will they be able to go after Lodestar to LT. Trying to head to LT from Elbaf for example will just get them lost.
But imo, thats the best we'll get. The difference is Shanks vs Blackbeard probably wouldnt be like Law/Kid vs BM because there probably wouldnt be a victor between them, at least not in some random isolated event unless you need to believe Blackbeard defeats Shanks.
The only thing we can hope for is that Oda doesnt bring a million secondary and tertiary characters and involve them. Do the Strawhat Fleet and Yamato make sense? Yes. Do we need to have Rebecca or Kyros or any other arc ally take up screentime? No.
How I personally see things going is all of this being in service to Luffy. Luffy will just end up defeating Shanks, Blackbeard, Akainu, Imu, etc, none of them will defeat each other. Cant say the same rule applies to the rest of the crew, but in that way I cant see anyone but Zoro defeating Mihawk, Shiryu, whichever Admiral, etc either.
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They cannot do this guys. We learned that ordinary maps do not work in grandline very early on in this series. Skipping islands does not work without an eternal pose. Picking an island between the RPs very likely requires you to be at Lodestar first, following whatever set of directions it provides outside of just matching a spot in GL.
At that point, however Oda explains it, will they be able to go after Lodestar to LT. Trying to head to LT from Elbaf for example will just get them lost.
Ehhh, this contradicts what Oda has been saying for years. That the series ends when One Piece is found and the journey ends. We cant say for sure if we'll ever go back to Mariejoa. For example:
- Imu has Uranus and can just fly to Laugh Tale once its known.
- Imu could also be the person who destroys Mariejoa for whatever unexplained reason. Maybe thats what prompts Noah to be used and for Shirahoshi to be taken by Sea Kings to LT.
- The big war everyone thinks is happening can just be for One Piece itself. We can find out about the Void Century and OP before the final fights.
Oda has been very adamant on the Yonko, Marines and WG fighting each other over this tbh
- Imu has Uranus and can just fly to Laugh Tale once its known.
- Imu could also be the person who destroys Mariejoa for whatever unexplained reason. Maybe thats what prompts Noah to be used and for Shirahoshi to be taken by Sea Kings to LT.
- The big war everyone thinks is happening can just be for One Piece itself. We can find out about the Void Century and OP before the final fights.
Oda has been very adamant on the Yonko, Marines and WG fighting each other over this tbh
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The way I see it is cross guild and BB get resolved by the end of laugh tale, shanks might stay till last arc cause he's got connection to WG.
I don't see a reason for the marines, god knights, gorosei and imu to all get on laughtale and fight it.
for me it makes more sense that we learn about the whole story(or most of it) and then fighting off the wg, learning the rest potentially and destroying the red line, cause that's heavily hinted it's gonna happen with luffys dream.
I don't see a reason for the marines, god knights, gorosei and imu to all get on laughtale and fight it.
for me it makes more sense that we learn about the whole story(or most of it) and then fighting off the wg, learning the rest potentially and destroying the red line, cause that's heavily hinted it's gonna happen with luffys dream.
Again, you are assuming Sharley's vision was literal lol. It had "Luffy" walking in front of flames, thats all. Even if it is him, theres nothing suggesting he will be physically at Fishman Island or Mariejoa when this happens. This could something caused by One Piece itself, or some other plot nonsense.
I wont deny having Kuma (if he lives) now makes this far easier to jusitfy, but I dont see Imu waiting to use Uranus either and just sitting around if Luffy gets to One Piece.
I wont deny having Kuma (if he lives) now makes this far easier to jusitfy, but I dont see Imu waiting to use Uranus either and just sitting around if Luffy gets to One Piece.
While I do believe there will a massive battle royale on Laugh Tale with One Piece as a reward , likely involving the four emperors and potentially the marine I don't think this will be the LAST battle.
The void century being revealed AFTER all the big bads are defeated simply make no sense. It'd be like having Robin's flashback after they rescued her.
There's a *possibility* we learn about the void century before the One Piece is found but I'd be shocked considering these two things have always been linked.
I won't call Oda a liar but he does state semi-truth sometimes.
At very least the WG has to fall after the One Piece is found.
The void century being revealed AFTER all the big bads are defeated simply make no sense. It'd be like having Robin's flashback after they rescued her.
There's a *possibility* we learn about the void century before the One Piece is found but I'd be shocked considering these two things have always been linked.
I won't call Oda a liar but he does state semi-truth sometimes.
At very least the WG has to fall after the One Piece is found.
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Thats what Im saying. Imo:
- Battle for One Piece (Yonko/Marines) before Laugh Tale
- Battle against the WG (after OP is found) on Laugh Tale.
My only true disagreement is where that last battle takes place. I think Oda will end the series there, not Mariejoa, but I could entirely be wrong. I just think Imu wont sit and wait. Kuma is alive (apparently), so if he's a strawhat or just an ally, he can send anyone and anything to Mariejoa fairly quickly. Ultimately, if we do go backwards, he's the answer.
- Battle for One Piece (Yonko/Marines) before Laugh Tale
- Battle against the WG (after OP is found) on Laugh Tale.
My only true disagreement is where that last battle takes place. I think Oda will end the series there, not Mariejoa, but I could entirely be wrong. I just think Imu wont sit and wait. Kuma is alive (apparently), so if he's a strawhat or just an ally, he can send anyone and anything to Mariejoa fairly quickly. Ultimately, if we do go backwards, he's the answer.
You guys could be right, maybe the RA doesnt attack until after LT. Its possible Dragon involves himself earlier since he can seemingly travel fast due to his powers (so we get Akainu, Garp, Luffy lore, etc). Maybe Uranus is used prior to this as well.
I just think the simplest way to address everything is at the end, I guess we'll see how it goes
I just think the simplest way to address everything is at the end, I guess we'll see how it goes
Ultimately I picture Laugh Tale to be mainly a battle involving pirates as this island has always been where the pirate king is crowned
Luffy having a secret dream after becoming the PK makes Laugh Tale being the dead last island even more unlikely.
I just can't see the Holy Land, the home turf of Imu/WG not hosting some kind of battle. It's too much of a major and symbolic place for it to be ignored. Oda also likes his villains to be defeated in their "home". (Even if it is not an unbreakable rule)
I don't think Imu will stay finger crossed, but I have an easier time picturing him sending Uranus to destroy Laugh Tale than going there himself.
Luffy having a secret dream after becoming the PK makes Laugh Tale being the dead last island even more unlikely.
I just can't see the Holy Land, the home turf of Imu/WG not hosting some kind of battle. It's too much of a major and symbolic place for it to be ignored. Oda also likes his villains to be defeated in their "home". (Even if it is not an unbreakable rule)
I don't think Imu will stay finger crossed, but I have an easier time picturing him sending Uranus to destroy Laugh Tale than going there himself.
