Character Discussion How would you have handled Smoker and Tashigi after Alabasta arc ?

#22
Smoker Promotion to admiral after Akainu becomes FA.
- Smoker fits the bill , logia type , Animal Zodiac if I'm not wrong.

He just had to become stronger.

And placing Tashigi under Bogard , marine has Zero known Swordsman of top tier ability.
So maybe Vice Admiral. Or candidate to Admiral Alongside Coby like Gion and that rabbit.
 
#26
Worthless vids a good theory do not make.
in that video from more than a year ago i say that ju peter will fight strawhats on the moon. now we know his monster form is the sandowrm. dune also takes place on a barren location in space. the moon has craters that go very deep. ju peter could dig through them or create new craters. the surface of the moon is covered by a sand like susbstance called regolith, fitting for the sandworm.
 
#27
in that video from more than a year ago i say that ju peter will fight strawhats on the moon. now we know his monster form is the sandowrm. dune also takes place on a barren location in space. the moon has craters that go very deep. ju peter could dig through them or create new craters. the surface of the moon is covered by a sand like susbstance called regolith, fitting for the sandworm.
We're not leaving the blue planet.
That's why Enel's story is focused on the Moon. So the SHs don't have to go.
Enel's return will provide the narrative beats necessary to understand what took place up there, which, alongside the Void Century flashback, will give us a full picture of the world's history & conflict.
There won't be a space arc.
 
#28
Why though? Oda randomly makes characters stronger all the time. Look at Crocodile or whatever. Smoker also has importance as someone who Luffy has always liked and personally yelled at the Gorosei.
He randomly makes them stronger, but I am yet to be convinced that he'll use them right. Cross Guild looks promising but it remains to be seen if it will delivers storywise. These last three arcs (WCI, Wano and Egghead) have eroded my faith in Oda.
 
#29
What do you think of the way Smoker and Tashigi have been used and written after Alabasta arc, with them disappearing of the story for a long time before making a few appearances in Marineford, and then reappearing after Fishman Island arc, only having a major role in Punk Hazard arc, where their handling was controversial, and to not have had any major importance since then ?

How would you have used, treated and portrayed them after Alabasta, and especially after the timeskip during and after Punk Hazard arc ? Where would you have them appear ? In which role ?
And also what powers and abilities and skills would you have given to them ?
So many good answers here.

I just wanna add that not having proper Luffy vs Smoker and Zoro vs Tashigi post-TS is such a miss. Even if Smoker and Tashigi are beaten badly, they still deserve actual results instead of being put aside for 20 years.
 
#30
So many good answers here.

I just wanna add that not having proper Luffy vs Smoker and Zoro vs Tashigi post-TS is such a miss. Even if Smoker and Tashigi are beaten badly, they still deserve actual results instead of being put aside for 20 years.
It reminds me that in Loguetown novel, Zoro and Tashigi's fight was actually more balanced with Zoro acknowledging Tashigi as faster and better at drawing the sword and that he couldn't be distracted or make a mistake, with them being matched for a time before he overpowered her.

In this novel Zoro also acknowledges how different of Kuina Tashigi is, while Tashigi does acknowledges that Zoro is different from other bounty hunters and criminals and does have a special connection with his swords.

It's something that should have been brought up in the manga. And Tashigi should have had her own battles and victories and progresses shown or at least mentioned, and her coming to Wano and becoming even stronger and knowledgeable about ancient swords and the lore behind them here.
 
#32
After punk hazard I’d keep them hidden until a little after wano, where we see tashigi and smoker 2v1ing a better zephyr than we saw in the movie but weaker than his prime, like around yc1 level zephyr, making zephyr now canon and making the evil marines canon and in the story, with tashigi having had found the snow fruit after Monet was killed and her fruit was found in a marine base where tashigi and smoker are now in Sword, replacing drake, who wouldn’t be apart of sword, since we do NOT need drake in sword, he has no character and he’s boring. Then make smoker and tashigi disappear until we see them fighting a newly introduced character in Elbaf who could’ve been apart of Zephyr’s evil marines, like his son or brother, but they lose and get killed, so the word gets spread, causing sword, some marines and Hina and some other characters to come to Elbaf, meaning we’d get marines coming to Elbaf.
 
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