Chapter Discussion I am sorry but I just cant take Luffy seriously anymore

#62
Oda has done Luffy dirty. Putting aside the unrealistic expectations that some had for him, he shouldn’t be needing food to recover after fighting a top tier for a bit.

It’s simply terrible, we should be well past that stage. It also doesn’t do any favours for the previous arc too.
You guys haven’t accepted that Luffy is admiral level and that’s a part of the problem lol
 
#64
or ya know he could be trusting that his crew can handle themselves while he refuels:choppawhat::choppawhat::choppawhat::kayneshrug::kayneshrug::kayneshrug:
Would you prefer
A). Luffy does everything and his crew is useless
B). His crew carry their own weight
?
Thing is, they couldn't.

Which is why we are not even getting stall piece, instead we're getting talk piece where Saturn and Kizaru were talking with vegapunk for majority of the chapter.

Anyway, Luffy does need to eat to recharge like against Kaido, so he isn't fooling around necessarily.


There is needing food and then there is pigging out so much you cant move.
Luffy did that against Kaido too.

He just absorbs them very fast soon and be fully ready.
 
#65
Zero tension whatsoever.

Everyone and their mothers know that Nika will save the day.
This chapter was fucking ass for everyone
You’re talking to the wrong person. I believe that Luffy is a top tier like an Admiral.
That’s precisely why it makes little sense for him to need to eat a ton of food just to get up after fighting an Admiral who is just fine and doesn’t need any food.

Why are you all reading One Piece ? It seems like you can't enjoy it anymore.. Why do you guys hurt yourself ?

Luffy's need for food is directly linked to the way he thinks and the way his fruits works. Luffy doesn't heal because he eats. Luffy heals because he thinks food can heal him.

That the basic propriety of the fruit, the power of bending reality of the body and environment to Luffy's will.
 
#66
Why are you all reading One Piece ? It seems like you can't enjoy it anymore.. Why do you guys hurt yourself ?

Luffy's need for food is directly linked to the way he thinks and the way his fruits works. Luffy doesn't heal because he eats. Luffy heals because he thinks food can heal him.

That the basic propriety of the fruit, the power of bending reality of the body and environment to Luffy's will.
You don’t have to be an Oda Angel to read and love One Piece.
It’s still my favourite manga series at a 10/10 which is precisely why I criticize it when Oda drops the ball.

Luffy shouldn’t have to “heal” in the first place when Kizaru didn’t do that much to him. He should be at a similar level to Kizaru at the moment…so if Kizaru (who isn’t even an awakened Zoan btw) doesn’t need to eat to keep fighting, neither should Luffy.
 
#67
You don’t have to be an Oda Angel to read and love One Piece.
It’s still my favourite manga series at a 10/10 which is precisely why I criticize it when Oda drops the ball.

Luffy shouldn’t have to “heal” in the first place when Kizaru didn’t do that much to him. He should be at a similar level to Kizaru at the moment…so if Kizaru (who isn’t even an awakened Zoan btw) doesn’t need to eat to keep fighting, neither should Luffy.
Newly awakened users have a limit, and it takes a toll on thier body. Law and Kid could only use thier abilities safely once I believe, and and more than that came at a high risk.

So it's either this, or Luffy awakens, and for some reason the rules don't apply to him, and he can go nuts as much as he wants. And if that was the case we'd get threads of people bitching that it's BS that there is no drawbacks for Luffys awakening.

Oda is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
 
#72
This. I’ve seen folks complain and complain about how luffy gets all the screen time and the moment the focus is on the crew they’re upset LMAO
Because even when they get screentime they are absolutely useless. Oda had to make kizaru/saturn extremely dumb standing frozen in front of Vegapunk instead of killing him like their primary objective just so that the SH can escape from them.

One crew member is sent to fetch another member due to possibility of him being lost, but that dude is jobbing to fucking lucci that got one-shot by Stussy.
 
#73
Tbh, my biggest issue with the way Oda is using Luffy at the moment, is the fact that he feels the need to have Luffy jump right into G5, when he clearly got a massive boost to his base on Wano, and was able to go toe to toe with Kaido, without any gears.

Utilizing the drawbacks of a newly awakened user is fine, because it makes sense that someone can't just awaken, and be just as proficient and accustomed to it as someone who has had it, and practiced it for a long time.

Making Luffy use G5, thus making it a necessity to have him stalled out for awhile, when he clearly has the means to fight without it, before needing to use it to finish the fight is what's annoying.
 
#76
Newly awakened users have a limit, and it takes a toll on thier body. Law and Kid could only use thier abilities safely once I believe, and and more than that came at a high risk.

So it's either this, or Luffy awakens, and for some reason the rules don't apply to him, and he can go nuts as much as he wants. And if that was the case we'd get threads of people bitching that it's BS that there is no drawbacks for Luffys awakening.

Oda is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
The issue isn’t Luffy’s awakening. You can’t change the subject.

The issue is him needing to beg for tons of food when he did not need to when he was supposedly at death’s door.
If Luffy restarted his heart beat and was back up around the same time as Kizaru, there wouldn’t be as many complaints.

It’s the fact that Luffy started in a better state against Kizaru, at worst suffered similar damage (I’d even give you a bit more damage) from Kizaru yet needs so much food to get up long after Kizaru that’s the problem.

I can only see it being fine if one wants to claim that fighting Kizaru is that much worse than fighting Kaido.
 
#79
Its always the same nerds circlejerking their one piece hate in these L-threads lmao. Asolute morons haahahahajahahaahhaha
One average chapter and everyone comes out of their shithole clamoring how everything had been so bad all along
 
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#80
Why are you all reading One Piece, it seems like you can't enjoy it anymore ? Why do you guys hurt yourself ?

Luffy's need for food is directly linked to the way he thinks and the way his fruits works. Luffy doesn't heal because he eats. Luffy heals because he thinks food can heal him.

That the basic propriety of the fruit, the power of bending reality of the body and environment to Luffy's will.
Luffy shouldn’t have to “heal” in the first place when Kizaru didn’t do that much to him
Luffy isn't just healing, he is recharging. The concept of time limits of his devil fruits was precisely demonstrated by the battle of Wano.
If Luffy managed to keep coming back to his Nika form on Wano its only because he knew that all he had to do was to beat Kaido to end the battle which ended in Luffy being out for 7 days. Its not that simple here. Defeating a monster is not enough, Luffy needs all his strenght until everyone are safe. Even after the transformation

Despite his fruit, Luffy is not a god. So, he needs to takes time to recharge and not push himself to the limit. And he does that by what he thinks can "heal" him. Food.

Simple logic.
 
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