Bougya I challenge all Zoro fans to prove Mihawk is stronger than Vista. You can't mention his title, bounty, Zoro or Shanks.

Where does Mihawk stand by feats?


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I kind of think the same though in terms of power level I dont think it would be good for Sanji to unlock ACoC later than Luffy and Zoro. ACoC is different from FS in terms of power level (its a straight up boost while FS is about dodging/evasion, one of a defensive maneuver you can say). Of course if Oda retcons the Power of Love to be some form of ACoC or Sanjis flame abilities being a form of ACoC then I can accept it. One way or another Sanji is bound to be above Prime Gaban who was an ACoC, ACoA (Ryou, he is flowing haki to the axe) and ACoO (FS) user.
Your visual appeal thing is correct, Sanjis strikes are beautiful, his combos indeed look visually better (better flow and choreography) than a big punch or a single sword slash, though I dont think the no touch version is an absolute requirement. Personally I wouldnt want Sanji to have black flames (I think it is too overused) and pure white flames against Sanjis thematic black pants would look better in the manga medium.
I mean the non-touching kinda the distinction tho to normal haki, and a larger range even to ryou. Oda already draws haki like ass, thats why half of this discussions happens in the first place. So if its not gonna use Coating, which is yes, a AP upgrade but also a range, what the fuck is even the point? Ruin the visual art with black lightning shit that looks exactly like armament and cause dumb arguments and ruin the art style of sanjis artstyle?

I like the white lightning idea, my only issue, or rather issue that oda doesnt gonna do that is because IJ already shits out White lightning as if he was enel at this point, which is gonna be stronger not weaker going forward


My hope/cope is at this point to be honest is Power Of Love is still its own thing like i wished for and he gonna combine acoc pol and Future sight into its own fighting style but that is what i wish for, its some prime cope realisticly it gonna be some dogshit "mouton shot extra coc" that gonna look ass :pepecopium::pepecopium::pepecopium:
 
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Its not strenght
Yeah the pirate king who is wanked like pirate jesus has same status as his underling despite being the most wanked in-universe character. Alright
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@Bullet You forgot to mention "narrative" as part of the things which shall not be mentioned as well.
"Prepare an egg without cracking an egg" ahh
 

ZenZu

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I understand this thread is supposed to mock the Sanji thread but it doesn't work because Sanji has gone all-out and shown feats, and these all-out feats place him at best at YC1, around guys like Marco. Mihawk has never fought seriously in the manga, has minimal feats, but his portrayal clearly places him in and around the top of the verse. Sanji's portrayal doesn't place him anywhere above YC1.

Honestly, this may be the first time ever that a fanbase gets their fav character placed on fraudwatch. Sanji fans are jumping the gun - making claims that Sanji is currently on Zoro's or even Luffy's level when he can't even beat pre-1010 Luffy feat-wise is insane work. There is nothing more concrete than a complete set of feats - that's the definition of fraudulence: when a character's portrayal doesn't match their complete set of feats. Sanji's complete set of feats place him at YC1, so that's where he is. His EoS level has absolutely no impact on that - that's a completely different debate.
Tbf it's also Sanji at EOS vs Mihawk right now so it balances out. It's hard to prove the EOS strength of a character to begin with, as it's always headcanon, current feats can't answer that question. Removing the benchmarks makes it impossible, that thread was probably dumber than this one.
 
I mean, Oda isn’t giving us this to dehype Shiryu. He’s trying to build him as a threat so it definitely stands
Idk
I would normally agree, but this goes beyond him
I think so far he portrayed every single BBP crew member (exception if you count kuzan) totally ass

People meme about Jack but I take Jack above any BBP in potrayal currently and I can prove it too
 
Idk
I would normally agree, but this goes beyond him
I think so far he portrayed every single BBP crew member (exception if you count kuzan) totally ass

People meme about Jack but I take Jack above any BBP in potrayal currently and I can prove it too
Well he is one top guy of worlds strongest creature
I guess thats something
 
Well he is one top guy of worlds strongest creature
I guess thats something
It's not that even at his "worst" like against 2 sulongs that were prior in legendary crews or against Tsuru fuji and sengokus crew

Meanwhile you look at shit like shiryu who gets internal bleeding by a slam and got literally called janitor in the story or garp literally throwing away San Juan, a guy who's only ability is being big, miles away

Jack was aura farming while he got slammed by zunisha
 
It's not that even at his "worst" like against 2 sulongs that were prior in legendary crews or against Tsuru fuji and sengokus crew

Meanwhile you look at shit like shiryu who gets internal bleeding by a slam and got literally called janitor in the story or garp literally throwing away San Juan, a guy who's only ability is being big, miles away

Jack was aura farming while he got slammed by zunisha
Oda didnt Even let one of the shc defeat the Poor guy
 
I understand the thread was an answer to the one made for Sanji fans but you did it wrong.

If I'm not mistaking, the intention of the author was to make Sanji fans only look at his current feats to evaluate his EoS strength.

So with that logic, you have to call out Mihawk's fans (not Zoro fans, the difference is important) and ask them to prove that Mihawk is stronger than Vista by using only feats. And by stronger I mean a lot stronger. And by feats, I mean feats on panel and only feats on panel.
 
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