Powers & Abilities I hate how CoC is being handled
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how is zoro yc1 level when he bodied a yc1 without getting touched once after acoc
I'm sorry man but this just comes off as incredibly salty 
Nice essay, you manage to be wrong on every single point, what a waste of time, you'd be better off reading the manga again.
Haki overall is a bad power system tbh
Oda could have handled it better for instance by attributing things like kinemon's fire techniques, vista's flowers, the breath of all things, the voice of all things, sanji's flammes etc... To haki and revealing that they're just really advanced applications of haki
Like kinemon uses ryou to create controlled explosions and generate flammes
And breath of all things is a type of observation haki reserved for swordsman who bonded so well with their swords that they essentially feel through the sword
Haki is essentially canon plot armor, you can legit replace "haki" by "plot" in any sentence it was mentioned in and it would still make sense
Oda could have handled it better for instance by attributing things like kinemon's fire techniques, vista's flowers, the breath of all things, the voice of all things, sanji's flammes etc... To haki and revealing that they're just really advanced applications of haki
Like kinemon uses ryou to create controlled explosions and generate flammes
And breath of all things is a type of observation haki reserved for swordsman who bonded so well with their swords that they essentially feel through the sword
Haki is essentially canon plot armor, you can legit replace "haki" by "plot" in any sentence it was mentioned in and it would still make sense
Yeah I guess Oda just ran out of creative ideas for PU's
It is 1 out of million though, something can be hereditary without being dominant
Almost all of BM's children have different fathers, if it is a recessive gene then that makes sense
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It is 1 out of million though, something can be hereditary without being dominant
Almost all of BM's children have different fathers, if it is a recessive gene then that makes sense
And in that case anyway, why wouldn't Big Mom have kids with conquerors? No, it's headcanon.
The real problem of CoC is that it rewards people with specific birth traits/personality.
One can born cowardly, but become courageous after childhood. Yet, they won't get/unlock coc. One can born "kingly", but became a coward after growing up. Granted, these people probably won't unlock coc, but they can have it nonetheless.
The true problem however, is that almost all of the strongest people have CoC, which imply "you can only be strong if you have CoC". This notion is shitting on the concept of hardwork.
Don't curse at Oda after you understand what I meant.
The real problem of CoC is that it rewards people with specific birth traits/personality.
One can born cowardly, but become courageous after childhood. Yet, they won't get/unlock coc. One can born "kingly", but became a coward after growing up. Granted, these people probably won't unlock coc, but they can have it nonetheless.
The true problem however, is that almost all of the strongest people have CoC, which imply "you can only be strong if you have CoC". This notion is shitting on the concept of hardwork.
Don't curse at Oda after you understand what I meant.
One can born cowardly, but become courageous after childhood. Yet, they won't get/unlock coc. One can born "kingly", but became a coward after growing up. Granted, these people probably won't unlock coc, but they can have it nonetheless.
The true problem however, is that almost all of the strongest people have CoC, which imply "you can only be strong if you have CoC". This notion is shitting on the concept of hardwork.
Don't curse at Oda after you understand what I meant.
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The real problem of CoC is that it rewards people with specific birth traits/personality.
One can born cowardly, but become courageous after childhood. Yet, they won't get/unlock coc. One can born "kingly", but became a coward after growing up. Granted, these people probably won't unlock coc, but they can have it nonetheless.
The true problem however, is that almost all of the strongest people have CoC, which imply "you can only be strong if you have CoC". This notion is shitting on the concept of hardwork.
Don't curse at Oda after you understand what I meant.
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Still salty.
And still wrong.
And still wrong.
Jumping massive levels skipping the basic pre-ts feat of unconcsious base CoC, to conscious CoC , to 2 years of control training and not being a CoC specialist, and still ass-pulling adv CoC because of Enma is not good writing lol.
Sanji got his massive powerup and Zoro needed something to match that, that's all it is.
Zoro having it is no problem at all considering his ambition to stand at the top of his field, a field that is more impressive than ruling a country.
CoC being this sign of fate that you are destined to rule on the other hand is a different issue.
Had Oda made it in a way that particular, very rare experiences stimulate and inspire you in a way to develop such an ambition that your determination manifests itself physically would have been a much better choice.
And if you look at the ones we know have or had CoC, makes a lot more sense that way, at least for the most part.
CoC being this sign of fate that you are destined to rule on the other hand is a different issue.
Had Oda made it in a way that particular, very rare experiences stimulate and inspire you in a way to develop such an ambition that your determination manifests itself physically would have been a much better choice.
And if you look at the ones we know have or had CoC, makes a lot more sense that way, at least for the most part.
Where did Zoro use base CoC before the roof?
Jumping massive levels skipping the basic pre-ts feat of unconcsious base CoC, to conscious CoC , to 2 years of control training and not being a CoC specialist, and still ass-pulling adv CoC because of Enma is not good writing lol.
Sanji got his massive powerup and Zoro needed something to match that, that's all it is.
Jumping massive levels skipping the basic pre-ts feat of unconcsious base CoC, to conscious CoC , to 2 years of control training and not being a CoC specialist, and still ass-pulling adv CoC because of Enma is not good writing lol.
Sanji got his massive powerup and Zoro needed something to match that, that's all it is.
Only your expectations.
That's what happens when you spend two years training instead of playing with animals. Zoro was strong enough to cruise through
post skip all the way to the rooftop without even showing his trump card. Luffy needed to catch up with multiple training arcs, extreme diff fights and power ups only to end up on same rooftop and still be carried by Zoro.
Zoro's CoC was kept under wrap up all the time to protect Luffy fans and make them think he was special.
Indeed!
And Enma was confirmed and shown to be a nerf all the way to through arc despite the anti Zoro fandom spending one year coming up with haki bag and other bullshits.
But it's OK. With Mid stealing Big Meme and ZKK alive and kicking I'd also be nervous if I were a Luffy fan.
What did Zoro skip?
Only your expectations.
That's what happens when you spend two years training instead of playing with animals. Zoro was strong enough to cruise through
post skip all the way to the rooftop without even showing his trump card. Luffy needed to catch up with multiple training arcs, extreme diff fights and power ups only to end up on same rooftop and still be carried by Zoro.
Zoro's CoC was kept under wrap up all the time to protect Luffy fans and make them think he was special.
Indeed!
And Enma was confirmed and shown to be a nerf all the way to through arc despite the anti Zoro fandom spending one year coming up with haki bag and other bullshits.
But it's OK. With Mid stealing Big Meme and ZKK alive and kicking I'd also be nervous if I were a Luffy fan.
Only your expectations.
That's what happens when you spend two years training instead of playing with animals. Zoro was strong enough to cruise through
post skip all the way to the rooftop without even showing his trump card. Luffy needed to catch up with multiple training arcs, extreme diff fights and power ups only to end up on same rooftop and still be carried by Zoro.
Zoro's CoC was kept under wrap up all the time to protect Luffy fans and make them think he was special.
Indeed!
And Enma was confirmed and shown to be a nerf all the way to through arc despite the anti Zoro fandom spending one year coming up with haki bag and other bullshits.
But it's OK. With Mid stealing Big Meme and ZKK alive and kicking I'd also be nervous if I were a Luffy fan.
Didn't even know what was ryuo properly (indicated by Zoro's own statements about Luffy's abilities) and was carried by Enma on the roof (indicated by Kaido, BM and most others on the roof who cared).