Questions & Mysteries I still don't get the point of the raid suit

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stealthblack

#1
Beyond cool transformation.

The body is already Like armor that can break swords, and You already get super strength and regeneration.

And sanji can still go invisible

So is only the flight?



Or is IT Like RPG game. Human sanji is level 1 armor, genes transformation is Like level 10 armor and raid suit is Like level 20 armor??
 
#5
Beyond cool transformation.

The body is already Like armor that can break swords, and You already get super strength and regeneration.

And sanji can still go invisible

So is only the flight?



Or is IT Like RPG game. Human sanji is level 1 armor, genes transformation is Like level 10 armor and raid suit is Like level 20 armor??
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Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#7
Beyond cool transformation.

The body is already Like armor that can break swords, and You already get super strength and regeneration.

And sanji can still go invisible

So is only the flight?



Or is IT Like RPG game. Human sanji is level 1 armor, genes transformation is Like level 10 armor and raid suit is Like level 20 armor??
Raid suit is "+ stats".
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#8
It awakened his genetics, boosting his strength in the way a training tool would do, through a different mechanism of course (genetic, rather than skill), but to the same general end of powering him up.
If by training you mean just triggering the modification factor then yes, but that's a redundant definition of training I would suggest. I would rather call it an injection but the learning process started once the suit was already removed.
 
#9
The Raid Suit gives top notch mobility and more speed with its unmatched flying potential by its speed boosters and floating devices, more durability (apart from the Exoskeleton), the cape works as a shield, and it most likely boosts those powers that the Exoskeleton naturally gives (like Electricity, Light and stuff)

Thats all. Although Sanji is a skilled martial artis, called Black Leg for a reason, who can use his emotions as an offensive power up, which is Devil Leg, and now who got the Exoskeleton boost and also apparently his birthright power up, which is the invisibility.

Although how the invisibility could be boosted by the Raid Suit stills unknown. Maybe the invisibility doesn't get a boost like the other powers from Sanji's siblings.

From what i managed to guess until now is that Sanji in the Raid Suit can get permanently invisible, like the Devil Fruit. Sanji hit Page One while invisible, exactly to how Shyriu hit Moria.

Against Queen, Sanji most likely turned invisible, but when speaking or attacking the invisibility turned off. This could mean two things:

1 - Sanji yet didn't realized he can turn invisible without the suit, and consequently cannot afford to control it properly (very likely in my opinion)

2 - As i said initially, the invisibility works differently without the suit, so Sanji turns invisible while trying to speed blitz someone, or when moving around, like dodging and escaping. Basicly he would get more tricky, but he wouldn't be invisible the whole time cuz he would need to make an actual effort to "turn on" the invisibility, while the suit could do it permanently on its own.

That 2nd possibility would basicly confirm the idea that the Raid Suit boost their powers.

But this one is more complex, so im not sure
 
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#12
Flight plus acceleration (ergo increased strength) are obvious additions that "base Vinsmokes" lack. I also recall they could protect themselves with the capes against the bullets made to penetrate their skin. The suits are fireproof too, which their bare skins aren't necessarily, and they seem to get an overall power up while using them (when they were trapped by Perospero they kept saying it wouldn't have happened with the suits).

So there it is. Suits give significants additions to the power level of a person, whether modified or not.
 
#13
The suit is still a power up in its own right more durability plus insanely more speed it makes sky walk a joke , it's always good to have a more of anything like luffy who has alot of everything
 

Garp the Fist

Bwahahahaha
#15
It’s allowed him to have his powerups because Oda shafted Sanji hard for years and randomly decided to throw in some Kamen Rider Super Sentai stuff to rectify it.

And there’s still a good chance of it coming back in some form later on from Franky and Usopp, or even Vegapunk

From a wider ”what’s the point” level though I have to agree with this:
A failed attempt at Lanji's character development.
I don’t care about the Sanji/Germa plot. Because Germa are so laughably, hysterically badly written cookie cutter villains. There is nothing interesting about Judge and his kids, and so Sanji’s “dilemma” to not be like them just falls completely flat, because of course our hero isn’t going to end up like his family

If Judge and co were a bit more morally grey, had some good and bad in them, a sign that there was some affection between Sanji and his family, that then might have made the story effective. Perhaps Oda could have tried to show Germa as a genuine alternative for Sanji to potentially choose over the Strawhats. Of course he wouldn’t, but if the Vinsmokes were actually semi-likeable or interesting (I include the two incredibly boring characters of Reiju and Sora in this) then it could at least provided some interesting choices for Sanji.

A poor man’s Nami/Robin story.

PS the Saint Sanji the World’s Kindest Man has always been nonsense as well

PPS the Germa semi-redemption into anti-heroes can go suck a big one
 
#16
Powerup
Germa and MADs connection
Lost personality and lost memory about all good thing - one personality(Germa) suppresses the other(good Sanji)
The appearance of a Pudding with a preserved emotional piece of memory of Sanji's old personality, which might bring his personality back.
 
J

Jailer

#17
It was there just so sanji can awaken his exoskeleton.

Tougher body = much better defense than his before frail body, harder strikes thanks to that too, his DJ will hit harder.

But I am indifferent as of now, need to see more what to make of the RS being destroyed.
 
#18
Beyond cool transformation.

The body is already Like armor that can break swords, and You already get super strength and regeneration.

And sanji can still go invisible

So is only the flight?



Or is IT Like RPG game. Human sanji is level 1 armor, genes transformation is Like level 10 armor and raid suit is Like level 20 armor??
It amplifies everything
 
F

Formerly Seth

#19
Overall. Vinsmokes are at their best with Raid Suits on.

So exoskeleton alone is not that impressive.

Lanji destroying RS closes the gates for him to even amplify his dura and shit.
 
#20
Think of it like this:
Exoskeleton gives:
- Armor like body
- healing power
- Higher stats in general for the body (thus higher speed and stronger attacks)
- A gift ability like electricity, poison…etc (I’m assuming Sanji’s will be stealth/invisibility)

Raid Suit will be:
- Adding another layer of armor on top of the armor they have…
- This stronger attacks and stronger defense
- Accelerators for even higher speed + stronger kicks
- Floating device for better flight than people who can use sky walk
- Amplifies your ability (for example, Sanji with his coat can cover another human being to be invisible with him during infiltration than just rely on exoskeleton

so it amplifies all your abilities to the other level
 
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