General & Others I thought when Kaido turned hybrid it was going to one shot city, what happened?

[matt245]

he will be just tougher and faster if you ask me. his Dragon from is for wide and big attacks

Probably he has less aoe in the attacks meaning that they are more concentrated and thus stronger.

 

[Monet]

Yeah it comes from his devil fruit. Luffy outright said I need ryou to break his DRAGONNSCALES
killer outright pointed out he couldn't break through his DRAGON SCALES

nah its not
if its from his DF then its simple put on him sea cuffs and kill him as any other DF user .
also the second point , it can't be his DF if he remembered rocks cuz he only got DF when rocks got defeated or same day

if its cuz of his DF then kaidou can easily kill him self
oda said even he cant kill himself

 

[matt245]

nah its not
if its from his DF then its simple put on him sea cuffs and kill him as any other DF user .
also the second point , it can't be his DF if he remembered rocks cuz he only got DF when rocks got defeated or same day

if its cuz of his DF then kaidou can easily kill him self
oda said even he cant kill himself

That's a good point. If it is only because of his df why did they fail to execute him?

 

[Finalbeta]

And Zoro pierced thru his scales. Conclusion: Zoro>Everyone

He in all likelihood had the potential to pull an Oden without most likely even remotely rely on his strongest or fastest attack after all.

 

[Monet]

That's a good point. If it is only because of his df why did they fail to execute him?

yep that's why the hardness is not related to the DF .
also yamato has some hardness which is not clear yet , she eats cannon shots like nothing .

 

[HA001]

nah its not
if its from his DF then its simple put on him sea cuffs and kill him as any other DF user .
also the second point , it can't be his DF if he remembered rocks cuz he only got DF when rocks got defeated or same day

if its cuz of his DF then kaidou can easily kill him self
oda said even he cant kill himself

That's irrelevant
He was an apprentice on Roxs crew with no fruit. Someone who big mom looked at as her little brother.
I guarantee you he never fought toe to toe with rox. Or even Roger or primebeard.

Again no 938 luffy said he needs ryou to break past kaidos scales
1002 killer also talks about how tough his scales are.

 

[Cinera]

nah its not
if its from his DF then its simple put on him sea cuffs and kill him as any other DF user .
also the second point , it can't be his DF if he remembered rocks cuz he only got DF when rocks got defeated or same day

if its cuz of his DF then kaidou can easily kill him self
oda said even he cant kill himself

Seastone cuffs don't stop Luffy from being rubber. Even while underwater, Luffy's body could still stretch.

yep that's why the hardness is not related to the DF .
also yamato has some hardness which is not clear yet , she eats cannon shots like nothing .

That's just high tier durability IMO. Half dead Whitebeard ate nearly 50 cannonballs. We can also see that Yamato is pretty roughed up by it.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Seastone cuffs don't stop Luffy from being rubber. Even while underwater, Luffy's body could still stretch.

Did Luffy ever stretch in Seastone?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

point

All they would need to use is seastone, or get magellean they just never took him serious

 

[matt245]

All they would need to use is seastone, or get magellean they just never took him serious

They didn't take serious a Yonko who escaped prision several times and survived a lot of executions? I am sorry but what you just said is dumb lol

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

They didn't take serious a Yonko who escaped prision several times and survived a lot of executions? I am sorry but what you just said is dumb lol

WG: The 3 great powers must be protected
Narrator: He escaped
The only person to escape from impel is luffy,shiki
so its already a fact he wasn't in impel, which means they didn't take him as a threat and he wasn't a yonko what you said is plain stupid

 

[Monet]

That's irrelevant
He was an apprentice on Roxs crew with no fruit. Someone who big mom looked at as her little brother.
I guarantee you he never fought toe to toe with rox. Or even Roger or primebeard.

Again no 938 luffy said he needs ryou to break past kaidos scales
1002 killer also talks about how tough his scales are.

its clear that rocks can affect on his hardness
otherwise there's no reason for oda to draw them when luffy managed to do it .
..
your guaranteeing is just speculation.
while it stated in the manga that the only way to surpass his hardness is haki .

 

[HA001]

its clear that rocks can affect on his hardness
otherwise there's no reason for oda to draw them when luffy managed to do it .
..
your guaranteeing is just speculation.
while it stated in the manga that the only way to surpass his hardness is haki .

No it's to surpass his dragon scales. That's what's stated. His hardness is from his fruit.

 

[MonsterKaido]

No it's to surpass his dragon scales. That's what's stated. His hardness is from his fruit.

No from his race......he don't have scales in his human form..........he obvi gets added dura in his dragon/hybrid form from scales

 

[Zowo]

No from his race......he don't have scales in his human form..........he obvi gets added dura in his dragon/hybrid form from scales

kaido used the dragon fire on base so he should get the durability to of the fruit
marco can use the fire abilities on base
orochi apparently used his fruit in base and didn t die
mythical fruits have that property i guess

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

bro it's from his devil fruit lol

 

[MonsterKaido]

kaido used the dragon fire on base so he should get the durability to of the fruit
marco can use the fire abilities on base
orochi apparently used his fruit in base and didn t die
mythical fruits have that property i guess

Well abilites like flame clouds are not body related.......he can "produce them" same as marco's flames........if he is producing partial scales then it is ok.........but he isn't...........about orochi thing it can be fukurujo's doing.....its better to see what is the case with him............

 

[HA001]

No from his race......he don't have scales in his human form..........he obvi gets added dura in his dragon/hybrid form from scales

What race. Why doesn't he Marco can use his flames in base. Luffy trained for his scales

 

[MonsterKaido]

What race. Why doesn't he Marco can use his flames in base. Luffy trained for his scales

Yes but marco creates flames.......kaido is not using partial scales on his body to defend.......we don't see that.............luffy fought dragon kaido initially......he mostly is referring to that......

 

[matt245]

If the problem is his df? Why didn't the marines use seastone to make him normal to execute him ezpz?