Questions & Mysteries If marines are not coming in the next chapters, SH alliance is dead

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#24
Why would the Marines be so dumb and throw themselves in the center of attention, knowing that two Pirate forces are about to go at each others throats?

They should use the alliance and sneak their way onto Wano in one push.

Everything else would be plain stupid.

Also, Oden walked into Kaido with 10 men against 10K and he also didn't get washed
Except luffy isnt oden, nowhere close and that was 20 years ago kaido who wasnt a yonko yet who still was gathering forces and got a good deal stronger himself. Not the same scenario.
 

Worst

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#25
It's funny cuz many people think the alliance won't have so much trouble lol Act 3 should end with the alliance totally demolished by BM/Kaido.
But i don't want navy to get involved so soon, i want to see Yonkos in action, now sure something needs to happen to break the alliance between BM and Kaido cuz let's be real these 2 alone can wipe out ALL the alliance without too much effort (hell i think currently just one of them can get rid of the alliance if he rly goes all out).
Unless i'm rly underestimating a couple of characters, only Luffy and possibly Kid can get close to a Yonko without dying instantly we're talking about taking them down, even if Luffy and Kid can take on Kaido OR BM would be for a limited period of time, untill they run out of Haki/options or Kaido/BM gets bored and decides to kill them, BM will probably go crazy for some reason and start attacking Kaido giving the SHs time to take out the top guys of the BP/BMP and take on the 2 Yonkos (which should have weakened each other a little) as final bosses imho it's the only way to make it believable.
 
#26
They're ok, nekomamushi and his reinforcements will be enough to deal with the yonko alliance.
Basically on one side there are: kaido and big mom. Then the 4 yc (king, queen, jack, smoothie), 5 flying six + perospero and daifuku (drake will switch side), the numbers. The rest is irrelevant.

On the other side: luffy, kidd, law
Zoro, jimbei, sanji, killer, drake
8 scabbards with 4 of them being around yc level (denjiro, ashura, the dukes)
You'll have sulong mink who are a lot stronger than their base form.
Neko's reinforcements with probably a few veteran level character, possibly even marco.

The yonko has an advantage but that's how oda wants to start the battle, a fight against the odds is what he enjoys portraying.
People just need to get ready for what they refer as to plot armor or PIS.
 

Worst

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#27
They're ok, nekomamushi and his reinforcements will be enough to deal with the yonko alliance.
Basically on one side there are: kaido and big mom. Then the 4 yc (king, queen, jack, smoothie), 5 flying six + perospero and daifuku (drake will switch side), the numbers. The rest is irrelevant.

On the other side: luffy, kidd, law
Zoro, jimbei, sanji, killer, drake
8 scabbards with 4 of them being around yc level (denjiro, ashura, the dukes)
You'll have sulong mink who are a lot stronger than their base form.
Neko's reinforcements with probably a few veteran level character, possibly even marco.

The yonko has an advantage but that's how oda wants to start the battle, a fight against the odds is what he enjoys portraying.
People just need to get ready for what they refer as to plot armor or PIS.
It's obvious that the plot will do his dirty job, we're just wondering what that will be, BM turning against Kaido? The Navy? There are many possibilities......the Lurking legend have yet to be introduced he might be the one to do that
 
#28
It's funny cuz many people think the alliance won't have so much trouble lol Act 3 should end with the alliance totally demolished by BM/Kaido.
But i don't want navy to get involved so soon, i want to see Yonkos in action, now sure something needs to happen to break the alliance between BM and Kaido cuz let's be real these 2 alone can wipe out ALL the alliance without too much effort (hell i think currently just one of them can get rid of the alliance if he rly goes all out).
Unless i'm rly underestimating a couple of characters, only Luffy and possibly Kid can get close to a Yonko without dying instantly we're talking about taking them down, even if Luffy and Kid can take on Kaido OR BM would be for a limited period of time, untill they run out of Haki/options or Kaido/BM gets bored and decides to kill them, BM will probably go crazy for some reason and start attacking Kaido giving the SHs time to take out the top guys of the BP/BMP and take on the 2 Yonkos (which should have weakened each other a little) as final bosses imho it's the only way to make it believable.
The alliance totally demolished means death and end of one piece. What a let down after 977 chapters of luffy screaming he will become pirate king.
 
#29
It's obvious that the plot will do his dirty job, we're just wondering what that will be, BM turning against Kaido? The Navy? There are many possibilities......the Lurking legend have yet to be introduced he might be the one to do that
I don't see the navy coming, drake will just make his report at the end of the arc, that's it. They are busy somewhere else.
The main plot surprise will be the arrival of neko and his reinforcements.
For the rest it's just going to be fights all over the place.
 
#30
I doubt that the marines will bring a huge force,because in the end Wano will be independent from big powers(yonkous,WG) or they will become Luffy's territory.
 
N

NeutralWatcher

#31
Straw Hat still has Grand Fleet+remnants of WB Pirates. Big Mom turning against Kaido is also a possibility so I think Straw Hats might have a chance but important characters from the alliance might die I think as the cost of going against two yonkos.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#32
The alliance totally demolished means death and end of one piece. What a let down after 977 chapters of luffy screaming he will become pirate king.
Luffy also screamed he would be pirate king before getting one shot. He should learn to keep his mouth shut. But I guess he knows he’s invincible and is running his stupid mouth everywhere.
 
#34
The marines may come either in act 4 and fight some of the pirates, perhaps distracting Big Mom from the final battle between the supernovas and Kaido, or they come in act 5 at the end of the arc.
 
#36
My point is that luffy is a dumbass and that he should stop taking bigger than he can chew. He should stop saying that bs until his scrub ass can back it up.
The thing is he always gets things done at the end of the arc so he can scream whatever he wants because he can chew whatever he aim for in the future.

So dumbass or not, he's right at the end.
 
#37
Not all marine will join. I think it's just Coby, X Drake, Fujitora, and Smoker.
Coby will help Luffy just like Garp and Roger.

But without them knowing. Marine decide to comes at the end to get all the pirates. But Momo as the new shogun of the land will protect the alliance and refuse the marine to enter. Of course marine have no right to do so. I guess that is a good char development
 
F

Formerly Seth

#39
Would Sabo and Revos commanders change the tides at least by a little? Sabo is above the commander level no doubt at all.
But on the other hand, there is completely 0 evidence that could indicate that Sabo is coming to Wano besides "I will always be there for Luffy" or maybe he saw Luffy's Vivre card burning after Kaido sent him Flying Six. I want Sabo to be there to help Luffy but as I said I can't imagine circumstances in which Sabo would show up at Wano.
 
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