Powers & Abilities If Shanks vs. Kidd Pirates happened off panel

#21
That's even worse, that means Sengoku is listening because Shanks has ties to high ranking people in the World Govt, either that or simply because Shanks is a reasonable person. That line by Sengoku left no room for strength to play any major role, as he's talking about Shanks as a person not as a fighter.
So you believe Navy chief has to agree on a notorious pirates terms just coz he's a reasonable man !? I don't know what could be more worse than that... are you kidding or what here and that is just to downgrade Shanks !! Lol

And that's all when Shanks challenged everyone present there to fight him....
 
#22
I only got one question - If Shanks clashed with Kaido who clashed with King?
The moon to Shanks' sun or the entire remaining members of RHPs besides Shanks?
Either way, entire crew showed up to stop King and Kaido, not just Shanks. :myman:
Lucky Roux bullets clashed with King. The rest of the crew was just chilling and watching
 
#23
@ZenZu for you Akainu remains standing there like a fool just coz Shanks is reasonable.

Garp remains standing there after all hatred for Shanks, just coz he's reasonable.

Sengoku accepting Shanks terms just coz he's reasonable.....


Bro you became too much reasonable right now for sure with this.
 
#24
So you believe Navy chief has to agree on a notorious pirates terms just coz he's a reasonable man !? I don't know what could be more worse than that... are you kidding or what here and that is just to downgrade Shanks !! Lol

And that's all when Shanks challenged everyone present there to fight him....
Doffy was part of the inner circle of the Celestial Dragons, yet he was cast out and treated like trash for nothing, despite wanting to return. Meanwhile Shanks is a Yonko who stole the Nika fruit from the WG and they respect him. Lol.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#28
By the contrary @comrade you and most others were happy for it to be said shanks took kidds arm WHEN IT DID HAPPEN OFF PANEL when in reality he didn't even see shanks and it was Benn.
 
#30
Shanks is the only one though pointed out to always come with his crew. No one ever emphasized that Whitebeard pulls up with his crew, or that Big Mom does so, or that Kaido pulls up with King.

Let alone that an admiral is pulling up with a fleet. Or Garp being ganged up by the BB pirates and injured by Shiryu before Aokiji had the balls to go 1 on 1.

People make it sound like pulling up with his gang is Shanks' trademark.

:kayneshrug:
I guess it is because some Shanks fans defend the idea that, by himself, he could take the whole marineford.

Now, even if Shanks is individually one of the strongest character in the verse, since chapter 1 we know that he has no issue letting his crew deals with his foes and he is not against some underhand tactics.
Therefore what we saw later on the story make sense and the idea that he could gang up on people is not far fetched. I understand that it is used as a way to downplay him but it should not.
It is just the pirate way.
 
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#32
By the contrary @comrade you and most others were happy for it to be said shanks took kidds arm WHEN IT DID HAPPEN OFF PANEL when in reality he didn't even see shanks and it was Benn.
Since he got his arm removed, it being the job of a swordsman was more plausible than a marksman. But the fact Shanks wasn't even present while an underling did the job is obviously even more hype, since it's not like Kidd was ganged on by the entire RHP including the captain.

As @Salah WG pointed out, Shanks is the type of guy who will give his team a fair share in doing the job (e.g. giants destroying Kidd's ship), but it was always cope that Shanks and his crew gang up on an individual.
 
#33
As @Salah WG pointed out, Shanks is the type of guy who will give his team a fair share in doing the job (e.g. giants destroying Kidd's ship), but it was always cope that Shanks and his crew gang up on an individual.
In Loki's Case, i see Three Possibilities:

1. Shanks & Beckman Team-Up
2. Shanks Alone
3. Beckman, Roux & Yasopp Team-Up (Explains why Brannew singled them out & why They have Higher Bounties than other Commanders)

Almost every time a Major Foe is Defeated and it Hits News, Oda loves to give Credit to Two Characters regardless of how the Fight went,
Such as Garp/Sengoku vs Shiki - Roger/Garp vs Xebec - Luffy/Law vs Doffy - BB/Koby vs Wang Zhi ... etc
So i'm leaning towards First Possibility most, Loki was Defeated by Shanks + Beckman
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#34
Shanks is the only one though pointed out to always come with his crew. No one ever emphasized that Whitebeard pulls up with his crew, or that Big Mom does so, or that Kaido pulls up with King.

Let alone that an admiral is pulling up with a fleet. Or Garp being ganged up by the BB pirates and injured by Shiryu before Aokiji had the balls to go 1 on 1.

People make it sound like pulling up with his gang is Shanks' trademark.

:kayneshrug:
It is, Oda made it this way. Shanks is synonymous with his crew, that's his unique Yonkou trait.

Heck when the marines were listing out the Yonkou bounties, Shanks' crewmates were name dropped alongside him. No other Yonkou got this. This is very unique to Shanks.
 
#36
It is, Oda made it this way. Shanks is synonymous with his crew, that's his unique Yonkou trait.

Heck when the marines were listing out the Yonkou bounties, Shanks' crewmates were name dropped alongside him. No other Yonkou got this. This is very unique to Shanks.
Because they are exceptionally strong and were said to have made a name for themselves even prior to joining Shanks. How does that disprove the point that Shanks ganging up on people with his crew is a myth?

Shanks' commanders doing the job for him (e.g. first encounter with Kidd, Yasopp blasting Barto's ship) is no different from King sending Big Mom's ship flying on Kaido's behalf, or Jozu and Marco stopping Mihawk and Kizaru, because the king is not as easy to reach.

There is nothing "unique" aside from the fact that Shanks' crew is stronger and has better reputation.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#37
Because they are exceptionally strong and were said to have made a name for themselves even prior to joining Shanks. How does that disprove the point that Shanks ganging up on people with his crew is a myth?



Shanks' commanders doing the job for him (e.g. first encounter with Kidd, Yasopp blasting Barto's ship) is no different from King sending Big Mom's ship flying on Kaido's behalf, or Jozu and Marco stopping Mihawk and Kizaru, because the king is not as easy to reach.



There is nothing "unique" aside from the fact that Shanks' crew is stronger and has better reputation.
Then you fail to understand Shanks' entire schtick. Everytime we see Shanks he is constantly surrounded by his crew, and they are always part of the focus. Shanks is synonymous with his crew the Red Hair Pirates, moreso than any unit in the entire verse.



Even in his encounter with Kidd/Killer this was emphasized, they were all moving out as a total unit.


Kidd forced his hand, Shanks still orders Dory and Brogy to finish off the Kidd pirates and the ship, could Shanks have done it himself? Absolutely, but that's not his character. Oda first and foremost always emphasizes Shanks as a general before all else. Who is always moving and acting with the entire unit. You won't catch Shanks lacking.


Oda NEVER draws Shanks without the full force of his core crew being within the vicinity. This is the exact opposite for any other Yonkou, they are rarely seen with their full core crew even in their own island let alone off their home base.

There is no need to look at this with negativity, this is who Shanks is. It's actually the one thing I find cool about the character and here you are trying to change this unique trait he was given. A leader never lacking in security is something to be praised.
 
#38
Then you fail to understand Shanks' entire schtick. Everytime we see Shanks he is constantly surrounded by his crew, and they are always part of the focus. Shanks is synonymous with his crew the Red Hair Pirates, moreso than any unit in the entire verse.
Even in his encounter with Kidd/Killer this was emphasized, they were all moving out as a total unit.
Kidd forced his hand, Shanks still orders Dory and Brogy to finish off the Kidd pirates and the ship, could Shanks have done it himself? Absolutely, but that's not his character. Oda first and foremost always emphasizes Shanks as a general before all else. Who is always moving and acting with the entire unit. You won't catch Shanks lacking.
Yes, that's correct. But that was not the point I tried to make, which you apparently happen to agree with.
could Shanks have done it himself? Absolutely, but that's not his character.
He comes with his crew, but he takes the lead. He doesn't need to gang on individuals, he is perfectly capable of humiliating the likes of Akainu alone before challenging MF with his entire unit, rather than waiting in the back until someone stabbed and injured his opponent before he feels confident stepping in.

:catpole:
 
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