Speculations If this Valley Flashback even slightly highlights the "Golden Lion" Shiki then this Arc gets a instant 10/10

#10
If and when we get a God Valley flashback then imo Shiki will be at the very least shown on panel, if you are lucky even some fight, but don't expect anything since either way he will be a small fry in the God valley incident.
 
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#11
If and when we get a God Valley flashback then imo Shiki will be at the very least shown on panel, if you are lucky even some fight, but don't expect anything since either way he will be a small fry in the God valley incident.
Shiki was the third in command inside rocks crew, ain´t no way the guy equal to roger, WB, Garp and Sengoku will be a small fry.
 
#12
Shiki was the third in command inside rocks crew, ain´t no way the guy equal to roger, WB, Garp and Sengoku will be a small fry.
Where is it stated that he was the 3rd in command?

Anyway Xebec, Roger and Garp will take the main spot along with Garling, then you can expect Kaido and BM to take more panel than shiki cause they are way more notorious in the manga, BM could very well be stronger than shiki. Then there are guys like Ray, who for sure will get more focus, and then there is Bogard who could take more or equal screen time, maybe he could compete with Scopper too for focus. In the end there are also captain John, Silver axe and I forget if there was another one lol. Shiki really will not be anything special in that flashback, don't set yourself up for a delusion (if you care like the OP).
 

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#13
I just hope we get a insight of his prime strength people got him up there with prime Garp and Roger but personally got him a bit below down with Oden, Ray and Sengoku

Who I believe is a ring below Garp and Roger

Lemme put it this was if

Garp and Roger = 100
Rayleigh and Shiki= 98

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but Shiki isn't ar the top with Garp and Roger
 
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Where is it stated that he was the 3rd in command?

Anyway Xebec, Roger and Garp will take the main spot along with Garling, then you can expect Kaido and BM to take more panel than shiki cause they are way more notorious in the manga, BM could very well be stronger than shiki. Then there are guys like Ray, who for sure will get more focus, and then there is Bogard who could take more or equal screen time, maybe he could compete with Scopper too for focus. In the end there are also captain John, Silver axe and I forget if there was another one lol. Shiki really will not be anything special in that flashback, don't set yourself up for a delusion (if you care like the OP).
Kaido was a rookie during rocks time and big mom was the weakest yonko, since we already know shiki was equal and rival to garp, sengoku, WB and Roger, just make the link and you can find out
 
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Kaido was a rookie during rocks time and big mom was the weakest yonko, since we already know shiki was equal and rival to garp, sengoku, WB and Roger, just make the link and you can find out
He was a rival of Roger or WB as much as Kidd is a rival of Luffy. I don't want to bash Shiki but he is just second rate when compared to Roger or WB, he was a yonko while Roger and WB were pirate king tier.
 
#18
In my mind Shiki was the yonko that Shanks beat to become a yonko. It would be nice to see him in the flashback and also if my theory is right if Oda could touch upon it in an SBS.
 
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#19
He was a rival of Roger or WB as much as Kidd is a rival of Luffy. I don't want to bash Shiki but he is just second rate when compared to Roger or WB, he was a yonko while Roger and WB were pirate king tier.
Bullshit, shiki was shown as a roger rival + kid WILL be luffy´s rival by EoS, he was portrayed ever since sabaody as luffy´s equal just like law.
 
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