I actually don't understand how you can come to the conclusion that Kid would runaway. That goes completely against his character. Also he can't be a betrayal for Luffy because he's not part of the alliance to begin with. I swear people speed read through Kid panels and completely misunderstand his character.
Future Events If/when the Raid fails, Kid may take his crew and leave Wano 'betraying' Luffy
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While I do think he would rather die than work for Kaido, I don't agree with the last part.
Kid doesn't care about the Alliance, what he cares about is himself and his crew. While surrendering to Kaido is not an option, taking his crew and fleeing Wano is. If it means getting out safe and sound, then I think he would do it.
The fact we're approaching mainland Wano should provide him the opportunity to do so.
Oda has frequently alluded to the fact that pirates betray each other, what better way of making this a reality for the SHs, by having Kid 'betray' the Alliance?
Plot wise, this would be better in the long term as it would create more animosity between the Straw Hats and Kid Pirates, especially if Luffy and Kid are meant to be proper rivals.
lol, oda would make him stick around for some stupid reason, he did it before, kid got free several days before the raid but he got back at the exact moment in the exact location despite the big confusion about the rendezvous point, the heart pirates arrival make sense because they're with the alliance, but kid plot points in wano feels extremely forced, he could've attacked kaido immediately after he got his crew back, but he had to wait just to get cool panels alongside luffy and law.
wano is hopeless, you just have to ignore the bullshit
wano is hopeless, you just have to ignore the bullshit
If it somehow hasn’t already been established for you, Kidd is not like other pirates...
I’m not sure how or why you don’t understand this, but Kidd is guy who would die instead of running away. Even if he realistically has no chance of victory.
That Kaido dialogue you posted is probably a reference to his days in the Rocks Pirates. Maybe some betrayal happened during God Valley it something.
I’m not sure how or why you don’t understand this, but Kidd is guy who would die instead of running away. Even if he realistically has no chance of victory.
That Kaido dialogue you posted is probably a reference to his days in the Rocks Pirates. Maybe some betrayal happened during God Valley it something.
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If it somehow hasn’t already been established for you, Kidd is not like other pirates...
I’m not sure how or why you don’t understand this, but Kidd is guy who would die instead of running away. Even if he realistically has no chance of victory.
That Kaido dialogue you posted is probably a reference to his days in the Rocks Pirates. Maybe some betrayal happened during God Valley it something.
I’m not sure how or why you don’t understand this, but Kidd is guy who would die instead of running away. Even if he realistically has no chance of victory.
That Kaido dialogue you posted is probably a reference to his days in the Rocks Pirates. Maybe some betrayal happened during God Valley it something.
Why did Kid leave Udon instead of getting revenge on Queen? Because he cared more for his crew.
Leaving Wano is surrendering because his goal is to beat the Yonko here. You’re not looking at the goal.
The difference between now and Udon or with Totland is that the goal was never to beat anyone in either place. In Udon his goal was not to beat Queen it was to free himself and find his crew. And that is what he did. In totland his goal was to steal something from her territory, not beat her or her commanders, and that’s what he did before leaving. Here on Onigashima the goal is to take down the Yonko. If he leaves before achieving that goal, it is running away and surrendering. Failing by getting killed or defeated is one thing, running away is another. He will not be doing that. I can promise you that.
Also by the time Kidd was freed, Queen had already sailed away from Udon with Big Mom btw, so it’s not like he even had a chance to fight him there lol.
The difference between now and Udon or with Totland is that the goal was never to beat anyone in either place. In Udon his goal was not to beat Queen it was to free himself and find his crew. And that is what he did. In totland his goal was to steal something from her territory, not beat her or her commanders, and that’s what he did before leaving. Here on Onigashima the goal is to take down the Yonko. If he leaves before achieving that goal, it is running away and surrendering. Failing by getting killed or defeated is one thing, running away is another. He will not be doing that. I can promise you that.
Also by the time Kidd was freed, Queen had already sailed away from Udon with Big Mom btw, so it’s not like he even had a chance to fight him there lol.
Short term goal vs long term goal.
Losing here doesn't mean he has to let go of his goal entirely (of beating/surpassing the Yonko) in fact it could lead him to go away and undertake intensive training to get stronger after realising he can't beat a Yonko as he is now.
Then EoS, he reappears far stronger than he has shown in Wano.
Losing here doesn't mean he has to let go of his goal entirely (of beating/surpassing the Yonko) in fact it could lead him to go away and undertake intensive training to get stronger after realising he can't beat a Yonko as he is now.
Then EoS, he reappears far stronger than he has shown in Wano.
Defeating the Yonko isn’t a long term goal. It his current goal that is his main reason he didn’t just take his crew and leave Wano. Taking down the Yonko is the goal of the Worst Generation in the Wano arc. After this arc the goal won’t mean anything because Luffy would have already done it. Oda won’t have Kidd chase the goal of defeating the Yonko when his rival already did a whole arc ago. That’s like Kidd chasing the goal of defeating a Warlord post Dressrosa.
He’s already had the reality of how powerful the Yonko are beaten into him when Kaido kicked his ass and when Shanks probably punked him. He doesn’t need another loss for motivation to go train. This isn’t Kidds first rodeo with Yonko lol.
Kidd isn’t willingly leaving Wano before completing his goal of defeating the Yonko. It is not in character for him to leave when he realizes he has no chance. That simple. When he realizes he has no chance, guess what he’ll do? Fight anyway. Just like he did when Kaido dropped onto his base lol. Not pack it up and leave Wano.
Are you reading One Piece? Eustass Kidd isn’t Bellamy lol. He isn’t a typical pirate that would run when they have “no chance.” His insane willpower and ambition has been highlighted again and again and you’re over here talking about him running when he realizes they’re losing. Lol cmon man.
He’s already had the reality of how powerful the Yonko are beaten into him when Kaido kicked his ass and when Shanks probably punked him. He doesn’t need another loss for motivation to go train. This isn’t Kidds first rodeo with Yonko lol.
Kidd isn’t willingly leaving Wano before completing his goal of defeating the Yonko. It is not in character for him to leave when he realizes he has no chance. That simple. When he realizes he has no chance, guess what he’ll do? Fight anyway. Just like he did when Kaido dropped onto his base lol. Not pack it up and leave Wano.
Are you reading One Piece? Eustass Kidd isn’t Bellamy lol. He isn’t a typical pirate that would run when they have “no chance.” His insane willpower and ambition has been highlighted again and again and you’re over here talking about him running when he realizes they’re losing. Lol cmon man.