General & Others If you were writing for One Piece how would you write Kaido and Big Mom?
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Honestly there is nothing wrong with the way either of them are written, but the biggest glaring issue with Kaido is that there hasn't been enough focus on him. With Big Mom, her actions or lack thereof became justified after her flashback. She has the mentality of a child, but the strength of an absolute monster. So all the gaglike moments that pertain to her character can be excused, because she was never meant to be the most competent person to begin with. She has a one track mind, and when she wants something, she goes for it, as a child would. She loses focus around her on anything that doesn't pertain to the immediate thing she is currently fixated on.
With Kaido, there is no context to his behavior. The most we know about him is that he values strength above all and has a tendency to "try to commit suicide", but we don't know why. None of his actions or lack thereof are justified because we don't fully know what makes him tick. We have bits and pieces of information that we can try to put together, but we need to know the full story. Yeah, he's a Yonko and commands a powerful crew, but at the same time, Oda typically focuses on Kaido as an individual with the information we are given. It's always "He alone" when it comes to Kaido. His strength alone is what got him recognized as a Yonko. He alone challenged the World Government and other Yonko's.
To me it seems like even though Kaido is a Captain of a Yonko crew, it's mainly just a facade, and he doesn't really care about it, because he can't get what other Pirate crews have. He forces people to submit to him and be "apart of his crew" using his overwhelming strength, but it lacks the comradery of a typical crew. He's trying to achieve what other crews have, but his means of going about it is all wrong. Most pirate Captains are respected by their crew, so there is a certain dynamic between everyone. In the case of the Beast Pirates it seems they are held together through fear of Kaido over anything else. He breaks their will, and forces them to submit to him. I don't think this is what Kaido actually wants, but it's the only way he can achieve what others have that he wants.
This is just my take on him from the tiny little clues we have to go on, but I fully expect that Oda will be giving him his own flashback that will flesh out his character and put everything into better perspective.
With Kaido, there is no context to his behavior. The most we know about him is that he values strength above all and has a tendency to "try to commit suicide", but we don't know why. None of his actions or lack thereof are justified because we don't fully know what makes him tick. We have bits and pieces of information that we can try to put together, but we need to know the full story. Yeah, he's a Yonko and commands a powerful crew, but at the same time, Oda typically focuses on Kaido as an individual with the information we are given. It's always "He alone" when it comes to Kaido. His strength alone is what got him recognized as a Yonko. He alone challenged the World Government and other Yonko's.
To me it seems like even though Kaido is a Captain of a Yonko crew, it's mainly just a facade, and he doesn't really care about it, because he can't get what other Pirate crews have. He forces people to submit to him and be "apart of his crew" using his overwhelming strength, but it lacks the comradery of a typical crew. He's trying to achieve what other crews have, but his means of going about it is all wrong. Most pirate Captains are respected by their crew, so there is a certain dynamic between everyone. In the case of the Beast Pirates it seems they are held together through fear of Kaido over anything else. He breaks their will, and forces them to submit to him. I don't think this is what Kaido actually wants, but it's the only way he can achieve what others have that he wants.
This is just my take on him from the tiny little clues we have to go on, but I fully expect that Oda will be giving him his own flashback that will flesh out his character and put everything into better perspective.
Problem is not the characters writing, but how Oda made gags turn off, and how dissrespectful they showed up. I mean compare Big Mom to any admirals in Marinford, do you remember any attack from admirals that was avoided by their target because it missed? So yeah, Oda for no reason killed all hype for Kaido and BigMom, and now hypes new arc...while this atc supposed to be new Marinford.
I could understand that he wanted to show SH from their best side, but he didn't develope any character except Luffy and now he is trying to pretend that SH was strong enough already, wich is still has no sence. That's why we got that cringy but funny moment with BigMom in last chapter. It was cool, but that doesn't change fact that SH are still not strong enough from plot point.
I could understand that he wanted to show SH from their best side, but he didn't develope any character except Luffy and now he is trying to pretend that SH was strong enough already, wich is still has no sence. That's why we got that cringy but funny moment with BigMom in last chapter. It was cool, but that doesn't change fact that SH are still not strong enough from plot point.
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Well, unlike oda I would show how much KOUZUKI oden was inferior to kaido without fear, it would not create a situation in which the character ODEN would humble himself for 5 years as a means of creating a reason for the character to hurt the other, I would change kaido to its base mode which is more than enough and after 30 minutes of fighting the oden would fall into the hands of kaido.
It would make yamata be the daughter of IM-SAMA, and the reason why kaido attacking the navy is for something involving them, would also make kaido beyond as the most powerful being of the most powerful race on earth that was extinct 700 years ago.
Things did not end as I wanted the result between kaido vs oden remains the same. Kaido: 1 wins Oden: 1 defeat.
The fear that oda would spoil oden's past by making him defeated by kaido was real
(Beaten), so much that he made the fight end soon, that was pathetic, in addition to putting kaido in a pathetic form of struggle.
About big mom I would start taking away your food crises
It would make yamata be the daughter of IM-SAMA, and the reason why kaido attacking the navy is for something involving them, would also make kaido beyond as the most powerful being of the most powerful race on earth that was extinct 700 years ago.
Things did not end as I wanted the result between kaido vs oden remains the same. Kaido: 1 wins Oden: 1 defeat.
The fear that oda would spoil oden's past by making him defeated by kaido was real
(Beaten), so much that he made the fight end soon, that was pathetic, in addition to putting kaido in a pathetic form of struggle.
About big mom I would start taking away your food crises
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No more “Wedding Cake!” or hunger pangs when it’s not needed.
This is what makes her less of a threat. If she’s devolving into a mindless beast that would attack her own people or crew and only be stopped by the food she wants.
How the hell could any of the Big Mom Pirates even stand staying with her despite these issues?
This is what makes her less of a threat. If she’s devolving into a mindless beast that would attack her own people or crew and only be stopped by the food she wants.
How the hell could any of the Big Mom Pirates even stand staying with her despite these issues?
Kaido
- I would make Kaido beign extreme version of Revolution army by Creating him being very very against World Government (he belives/know WG is corrupted he experiencied it and etc, i hope you guys understand me.) and his ultimate goal is wage war against World Government and Creating new world (in his Mind better for everyone)
- He took Wano due to Wano vast resources (Gold, sea Stones, weapons....)but he thinks he helps Wano with "protection from outside" and he is aware of suffering of Wano citizens but he thinks end justify means,
- Give him more splotligh and story involving, Orochi get more story involved than Kaido (only Wano arc) and make him less Drunk
- Make Kaido Really wanting war! By beign excited that war is coming, but also irrirated that isn’t Navy(BM scene) , make during story before Wano that Beast pirates raids WG (Navy bases, Ships, WG allied countries,..) and are crazy and seriosly dangerous
- Make him beign irrirated by Orochi (due to Orochi personallity but due to Orochi army he need Orochi) but at end after realising Orochi tried avoid that war(as Orochi agree that they should preapre Wano for that war in past ) and had secret deals with WG that would betray Kaido.. Which at end Kaido execute him how it been, and Make Kaido better morale
- Give him clean win over Oden to justify his hype beign strongest and make Kaido a little admired by Oden and make scene like Roger and Garp, but Kaido wants Oden bend knee and rule together/under Kaido so they ultimate destroy World Government (as Kaido is aware of Oden being to Raftel and probably know from Adventure of corruption from Outside) and Oden warn about that war which going happen in 20 years, make him beign mention by Rayleigh or somebody from Roger crew which warn Oden of Kaido
- Creating Yamato put of nowhere and Giving Kaido beign pure evil by explodive handcuffs i would write him Giving fake handcuffs and that theory of him trying Save Ace/wage war against Navy would suit better..
- Make numerous capturing of Kaido beign by Yamato running away,beign in danger and Kaido needing to save her/trade himself for her
- Dont make him beign so easily damaged by Scabbards and make him more
- Make his flashback showing beign in pain and suffering which create his agenda of destroying World (WG)
