Future Events If ZKK doesn't happen then

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Zoro can't even stop some fodder slash from King, while Luffy surpassed Jozu who stopped Mihawk's worlds strongest slash.

Zoro ain't stronger than any version of Luffy post time skip.

jozu who stopped mihawks unnamed casual slash

 

[sanjikun]

Zoro easily parried Kaido's slashes, something Luffy couldnt do and had to dodge. And when did Luffy surpassed Jozu's defense? Last time i checked he was dodging Kaido's slashes not blocking them.

Took Luffy 4 powerups since dressrosa for Luffy to be able to do damage to Kaido, meanwhile the only powerup Zoro got was one week training with Enma and thats it. Zoro in WCI would mid diff Katakuri, FS or not, not to mention how easily he would have dealt with Cracker, an opponent Luffy struggled with for hours.

Luffy doesn't touch slashes because he doesn't have a weapon. In terms of physical strength Boundman takes a giant steamy dump on Zoro.

jozu who stopped mihawks unnamed casual slash

"The Strongest Slash in the World" the size of the Moby Dick aimed at Whitebeard.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Luffy doesn't touch slashes because he doesn't have a weapon. In terms of physical strength Boundman takes a giant steamy dump on Zoro.



"The Strongest Slash in the World" the size of the Moby Dick aimed at Whitebeard.

mihawk threw out a casual flying slash and jozu had to tank it for whitebeard because the old man was that weak. mihawk "measured the distance" and they were so far apart whitebeard needed a commander to protect him

 

[sanjikun]

mihawk threw out a casual flying slash and jozu had to tank it for whitebeard because the old man was that weak. mihawk "measured the distance" and they were so far apart whitebeard needed a commander to protect him

How the fuck was that a "casual" slash? It was literally meant to test the "distance" between him and Whitebeard.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

How the fuck was that a "casual" slash? It was literally meant to test the "distance" between him and Whitebeard.

yes, by using one of his standard unnamed casual attacks. and whitebeard was that far away lmfao. the old man was so weak even an unnamed, one-handed flying slash from the Worlds Strongest Swordsman would have killed him so he had to call in Jozu to protect his ass.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Regardless of ZKK heppening or not, Zoro's performance in this arc pretty much confirms how much stronger he was compared to even Luffy before Luffy got his double powerup in this arc.

Pica was likely way more capable than he seemed to be, Zoro was just too strong to the point where Pica looked like trash.

Zoro is getting trashed by King, whereas Pre-1010 Luffy was easily stronger than any YC1

 

[sanjikun]

yes, by using one of his standard unnamed casual attacks. and whitebeard was that far away lmfao. the old man was so weak even an unnamed, one-handed flying slash from the Worlds Strongest Swordsman would have killed him so he had to call in Jozu to protect his ass.

What named moves have you seen from Mihawk? An attack that size aimed at a Yonko is not a "casual attack".

Look at Roger and Whitebeard being so casual. Not even naming their attacks.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

What named moves have you seen from Mihawk? An attack that size aimed at a Yonko is not a "casual attack".

Look at Roger and Whitebeard being so casual. Not even naming their attacks.

yeah, luffy and kaido didnt throw out named attacks either for their clash. that's the level of power a true yonko tier fighter can command. old dying whitebeard could barely stand up to his own commanders in strength. marineford wb is mega nerfed, thats the point of the mihawk scene. that in the past, whitebeard was scary, but now, the distance between him and the WSS is so great that he can't even handle his weakest attacks alone

 

[Rekien]

Luffy doesn't touch slashes because he doesn't have a weapon. In terms of physical strength Boundman takes a giant steamy dump on Zoro.



"The Strongest Slash in the World" the size of the Moby Dick aimed at Whitebeard.

Your arguments are completely nonsensical, as expected of a sanjiboy.

Jozu's defense is top tier, he is made of diamond after all, he didnt need a weapon to block that due to his DF, yet Luffy cant even block kaido's normal slashes. Yeah there is no fucking way Luffy's boundman is superior in defense compared to Jozu, not a way in hell.

Luffy couldnt even make Kaido chuckle the first tiem they fight, not to mention how inneficient he was in breaking Cracker's fucking biscuits, something Zoro wouldnt had any trouble at all. Luffy is a more balanced fighter after all, i dont deny that in terms of mobility and speed he is superior to Zoro by a lot, but the same also goes when we compare Zoro's endurance and strenght.

 

[Finalbeta]

Like the only fall in Jozu's defence is literally just the fact he is likely unable to cover all his body in diamond at once since he never did so despite there was no need not to.

 

[sanjikun]

Your arguments are compeltely nonsensical, as expected of a sanjiboy.

Jozu's defense is top tier, he is made of diamond after all, he didnt need a weapon to block that due to his DF, yet Luffy cant even block kaido's normal slashes. Yeah there is no fucking way Luffy's boundman is superior in defense compared to Jozu, not a way in hell.

Luffy couldnt even make Kaido chuckle the first tiem they fight, not to mention how inneficient he was in breaking Cracker's fucking biscuits, something Zoro wouldnt had any trouble at all. Luffy is a more balanced fighter after all, i dont deny that in terms of mobility and speed he is superior to Zoro by a lot, but the same also goes when we compare Zoro's endurance and strenght.

The issue is not Jozu's skin, it's his STRENGTH. He did not move even 1 inch back.

Zoro got sent flying by random fodder slashes from King. Zoro is not even 20% strength of Boundman. At most G3 level strength (but lethalithy is more since he's using swords, not punches).

 

[Rekien]

The issue is not Jozu's skin, it's his STRENGTH. He did not move even 1 inch back.

Zoro got sent flying by random fodder slashes from King. Zoro is not even 20% strength of Boundman. At most G3 level strength (but lethalithy is more since he's using swords, not punches).

And in what you base for that nonsensical %? Just blocking Hakai even if for a second shows how much stronger Zoro is compared to Luffy phisicaly withoud any haki stuff, or are you trying to sugest King's stupid fodder slashes are stronger than Hakai? Luffy's only damaging Kaido right now because his adv CoA and now CoC allows him to bypass Kaido's skin, wich is the whole argument here WCI Zoro>WCI Luffy since Zoro already had Asura and thus he already could harm Kaido even before wano, but Luffy couldnt.


I wont even go into endurance territory, seen how easily Luffy is to KO compared to Zoro.

 

[kenedyfake]

mihawk threw out a casual flying slash and jozu had to tank it for whitebeard because the old man was that weak. mihawk "measured the distance" and they were so far apart whitebeard needed a commander to protect him

White Beard has no named attack, but no one doubts his gura punches do they? I could even understand his reasoning, but Mihawk was trying to kill WB, so he put in his top attack.

 

[The White Crane]

Killing an 'unconscious' enemy is shameful and not something you're likely to see in Shonen go read the edgy crap if you want to see stuff like that.

So the 1 v 1 has already been diluted as it is and you want Zoro to outshine Luffy overall in this arc? Dude you must be reading Sword Piece

Calling it shameful does not make it shameful when you do not support it with proofs.

And are you going to argue, after the gauntlet Kaido went through, that Luffy's victory remains a solo effort?

Also, again, having a Yonko slayer works for Luffy is a prestige, not a shame.

 

[Zara]

The number of Zoro Fans reading Two Pieces is too damn high. Zoro never finished a boss in an arc, and it won't ever happen. And don't give me "but Hody!"

Hody wasn't in his final form and weak as fuck compared to the SH in base.

Who defeated Axe Hand Morgan?

 

[The White Crane]

Mate, when zoro's timelimit expires, he's going to probably be near death

The rooftop damage alone left zoro incapable of movement. Zoro is going to take double that on top of what he's taking from king.

Why on earth would he risk death to kill an already defeated kaido? Especially when Kaido is probably going to be arrested anyways.

You actually asked why Zoro would risk death to fulfill his objective?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

You actually asked why Zoro would risk death to fulfill his objective?

The objective in question is utterly meaningless

If we assume Luffy will defeat kaido, like has been said over a million times(including by zoro himself), then why does Zoro specifically need to kill kaido? At that point almost anyone with the necessary haki/internal damage techniques could do it.
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Zoro would effectively be throwing away his life for nothing

 

[Kishido]

It will happen

 

[The White Crane]

The objective in question is utterly meaningless

If we assume Luffy will defeat kaido, like has been said over a million times(including by zoro himself), then why does Zoro specifically need to kill kaido? At that point almost anyone with the necessary haki/internal damage techniques could do it.
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Zoro would effectively be throwing away his life for nothing

 

[sircrocodile666]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

There is a real possibility King actually killed Ushimaru.