Future Events If ZKK doesn't happen then

[Absolute Justice]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

 

[Seth]

We don't have to worry about this since ZKK is happening.

 

[Peroroncino]

No that just show where you put your expectations.

 

[uyuu]

Lets wait until Wano ends. Even if ZKK doesnt happen, Zoro had done much this arc anyway.

 

[Adamxero]

 

[serialwinnerv7]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

Failed to fulfil Enma's will

Kawamatsu explained in 953 that the new sword wielders will carry on the previous sword wielder's' unfinished battle with the Beast Pirate. Coincidentally, that was the same chapter Zoro inherited Enma.

What was Oden's final battle? Against Kaido where Oden wanted to cut his head off.

I honestly find this point the riveting case for the theory and it's overlooked.

 

[Finalbeta]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

These are the arguments at to why ZKK is almost certainly happened and it's just part of the full explanation.

I would also add he is the only one apt to kill him will manifestation wise, there would be Teach but that would constitute such bad writing imo.

 

[zzShinichi]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

This is exactly why Oda will make ZKK happen. Too many false promises even for Zoro. And Zoro is his fucking favorite character
Oda doesn't fucking cock tease when it comes to Zoro
997 - Oda teased Zoro COC
1010 - There it is

 

[WesMidnight]

Luffy is the one taking him down 1vs1 as has been reiterated dozens of times, Zoro exectuing a 1% Kaido is dishonorable and pointless and not "fulfilling Ryuma" either.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Thread : Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Answer: Zoro is already fullfill Ryuuma comparison.

Spoiler: Ryuma

Spoiler: Zoro

Especially Dragon Kaidou is not the same type of a dragon that Ryuma cut it's head.

Thread : Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Answer : His captain will do it instead of him ,when Zoro has not enough strength to do it by himself.
But by beating Kaidou, not kill Kaidou.

LoL that dragon not even from wano
And Luffy still cant even fucking land a hit 1v1 Nerfed weakened kaido meanwhile Kaido cant land a single fucking hit on 30 broken bones nerfed Zoro

see the gap? luffy not strong enough to defeat kaido from the beging

and Zoro will Kill kaido when he do it by the hyru kaen, healthy Zoro capable to almost kill healthy kaido since chapter 1002

Zoro > Luffy
Killing the Strongest Skin/Creature by cuting him >>>>>> Punching the merfed weakened kaido and it not even Close

 

[The White Crane]

Thread : Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Answer: Zoro is already fullfill Ryuuma comparison.

Spoiler: Ryuma

Spoiler: Zoro

Especially Dragon Kaidou is not the same type of a dragon that Ryuma cut it's head.

Thread : Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Answer : His captain will do it instead of him ,when Zoro has not enough strength to do it by himself.
But by beating Kaidou, not kill Kaidou.

That last one is still a notable failure, though.

Ushimaru will be like, "Dude, what the fuck? You let your boss do your job for you? Smh."

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Luffy is the one taking him down 1vs1 as has been reiterated dozens of times, Zoro exectuing a 1% Kaido is dishonorable and pointless and not "fulfilling Ryuma" either.

Delivering coup de grace is dishonorable? Since when?

 

[m0nst3Rx]

:laughmoji:

Its really pathetic now Kings AP higher than Kaido
LoL

zoro beating a Guy who had higher ap than kaido , Luffy strugling with a Nerferd weakened guy who had weaker AP than King

Thank god They all nerfed and damaged kaido so Condom can Match with 10% strengght kaido then no one will bully him

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

If ZKK doesn't happen then Zoro stans are going to come crying and whining about how Oda is some big fraud just because their favorite character didn't get the final blow on the main antagonist.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Failed to be as big as Ryuma in his own home country (sword god lol)
Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Failed to cut Kaido to pieces as he says
Failed to live to fate when bringing Shusui back (he brought Shusui back so Luffy can win )
Failed to make Kaido fall down as said in chapter 1010
Vivre cards are bullshit (Oni Hunter my ass)
Failed to avenge Yasui when Orochi killed him
Sat out for 10 chapters just to beat King who was losing to Marco 90% of the time

1, he did that in Punk hazard
2. Other ways to do that look at Usopp in Dressrosa
3. Zoro doesn’t know about him.
4. He cut Kaido already
5. This doesn’t make sense
6. That ones a stretch
7. The VC was referring to the ice oni virus
8. He did this by helping Luffy
9. Nothing wrong with beating king?

Most of these points just don’t work. Kaidos being defeated by Luffy this is the only thing we know.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Luffy is nerfed than Kaidou. Kaidou never K.O in after Onigashima war begins. Luffy get KO. 2 times. Luffy is suffered and far superior nerfed more than Kaidou.

Spoiler: Kaidou has a Fresh health but Luffy is nerfed in 1026.

Unlike Zoro who heal by magical aspull drug but still no match for YC1 level that Luffy beat long time ago.

You sure luffy can beat king? lmao mf struggling with 10% kaido let alone fight with fresh king
and condom getting fully healed after eating this is fresh condom vs 10% of kaido btw

Kaido got a Scar from deathbed zoro that enought to split luffy into 2 pieces and oneshot kill :cheers:

 

[Finalbeta]

It's gonna happen, it's coming Rome

 

[Fn Lucci]

Thread : Failed to Fulfill Ryuuma comparison
Answer: Zoro is already fullfill Ryuuma comparison.

Spoiler: Ryuma

Spoiler: Zoro

Especially Dragon Kaidou is not the same type of a dragon that Ryuma cut it's head.

Thread : Failed to avenge Ushimaru who is killed by Kaido
Answer : His captain will do it instead of him ,when Zoro has not enough strength to do it by himself.
But by beating Kaidou, not kill Kaidou.

1, he did that in Punk hazard
2. Other ways to do that look at Usopp in Dressrosa
3. Zoro doesn’t know about him.
4. He cut Kaido already
5. This doesn’t make sense
6. That ones a stretch
7. The VC was referring to the ice oni virus
8. He did this by helping Luffy
9. Nothing wrong with beating king?

Most of these points just don’t work. Kaidos being defeated by Luffy this is the only thing we know.

"Fulfilled by PH dragon."
No. It's a clear reference but not the same feat. Ryuma killed a dragon above the capital, this makes him heroic as it appeared as an actual threat, and impressive as people saw a feat not easily duplicated. He wouldn't be the sword god, with a black blade, if it was something relative to what Zoro accomplished at the beginning of the new world, that will remain unknown in his personal lore as the eventual WSS/second Ryuma.

"Zoro will not avenge Ushimaru, doesn't know him"
Oda had no obligation to create the character and make him so much like Zoro. Explicitly, as we saw other characters mention. Why is it that Luffy can unknowingly bear the likenesses or fulfill the dreams of Roger, Ace, Oden, Dragon, Garp, Nika, Joy Boy, and possibly others and Zoro can't meet his specific parallels under similar conditions?

"He already cut Kaido"
And was unsatisfied by it. He declared he'd be cutting Kaido to pieces, why would it just be left there?

"Ice Oni virus"
Talk about a stretch, wow. He cut the only dude who wasn't even an ice Oni. Hitting Chopper would have even made more sense in that case.

"Nothing wrong with beating King"
Except, it does nothing to resolve his narrative in Wano.

 

[Rivaille]

ZKK is and will stay the most prevalent theory in the community, it happening or not.

I never saw a theory to be talk this much and with this much heated debate.

 

[Rekien]

If Luffy 1v1's Kaido right now that just means Kaido is currently one of the weakest top tiers instead of the strongest.

What would be the tension if Luffy can defeat the strongest character in the vers ein a 1v1 this early? How would we have an interesting fight if all admirals, including Akainu where weaker than Kaido? Theres still at least 2 arcs to end the manga, and theres no way Luffy wont need to face even stronger foes.


Luffy is definely getting help or Kaido is just all bark and no bite.

 

[omegalul]

we'll know in less than 10 chapters