Future Events If ZKK doesn't happen then

#41
Lol what you gonna say if hiyori kills him
pretty much the same :sanmoji:

i kinda hope its Kin tho but he's done even before he can achieve anything since Punk Hazard lmao, so i hope its either Denjiro since he's the only one missing for now, then Zoro for avenging Yasuie and fulfill Hiyori hopes.
 
#42
Yes you're right oda made gyukimaru tell us ryuma slayed a dragon above the capital
And then will make zoro a direct descendant of ryuma will have his dad die to kaido all to ignore the dragon that's going to be above the Flower Capital in a bit to slay a gorosei. Makes sense
there are one of 2 options

either
  1. Oda is a shit writer by continuously building up Luffy as the person to defeat kaido only for Zoro to do it instead
  2. You are so blinded by fanboyism you can't comprehend the story properly
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
there are one of 2 options

either
  1. Oda is a shit writer by continuously building up Luffy as the person to defeat kaido only for Zoro to do it instead
  2. You are so blinded by fanboyism you can't comprehend the story properly
Yes despite kaido being beheaded and dying being pushed ALL ARC AND SINCE HIS INTRO
BY ALL OF WANO FOR GENERATIONS FROM YASU TO ODEN TO SCABBARDS oda put that there for no reason.
Be happy with the fake w luffy getting before kaido gets back up
 
#44
Yes despite kaido being beheaded and dying being pushed ALL ARC AND SINCE HIS INTRO
BY ALL OF WANO FOR GENERATIONS FROM YASU TO ODEN TO SCABBARDS
Just because kaido will (probably) die doesn't mean zoro is going to kill him. In all likelihood its going to be blackbeard.

There's a 90% chance Teach has some sort of connection to Xebec. We also saw him encounter moria at the start of the arc.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#45
Just because kaido will (probably) die doesn't mean zoro is going to kill him. In all likelihood its going to be blackbeard.

There's a 90% chance Teach has some sort of connection to Xebec. We also saw him encounter moria at the start of the arc.
Yes all that blackbeard in wano build up we've got right
Blackbeard must be ryumas son to slay the dragon in the capital.
Can't wait for bb to get the dragon fruit and just wave goodbye to luffy who will be a sitting duck to kill and just leave wano
Fucking genius you are.
 
#46
Just because kaido will (probably) die doesn't mean zoro is going to kill him. In all likelihood its going to be blackbeard.

There's a 90% chance Teach has some sort of connection to Xebec. We also saw him encounter moria at the start of the arc.
unlikely, if BB comes to Wano, then he also has a chance to kill a bad shape Luffy after that, which is really bad to the plot either for Luffy, SH, Wano and the alliance.
 
#47
Yes all that blackbeard in wano build up we've got right
Blackbeard must be ryumas son to slay the dragon in the capital.
Can't wait for bb to get the dragon fruit and just wave goodbye to luffy who will be a sitting duck to kill and just leave wano
Fucking genius you are.

learn some reading comprehension
 
#49
Luffy is the only one who can defeat kaido

meaning for ZKK to happen, either:
  1. Luffy won't defeat kaido
  2. Zoro will kill a defeated kaido
#1 would be shit writing and so we can be assured it won't happen. #2 won't happen because
  1. Zoro has a time limit do to the medication. There's absolutely no reason for him to power through all that pain just to kill a defeated kaido.
  2. Killing a person who is already defeated is generally, a dishonorable thing to do and Oda wants to keep the straw hats the good guys.
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I can read fine. It doesn't say he's gonna kill kaido which is the point of the whole raid.
You clearly can't

Your comment about the "fake W" indicates you don't actually think Luffy will beat kaido.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#50
Luffy is the only one who can defeat kaido

meaning for ZKK to happen, either:
  1. Luffy won't defeat kaido
  2. Zoro will kill a defeated kaido
#1 would be shit writing and so we can be assured it won't happen. #2 won't happen because
  1. Zoro has a time limit do to the medication. There's absolutely no reason for him to power through all that pain just to kill a defeated kaido.
  2. Killing a person who is already defeated is generally, a dishonorable thing to do and Oda wants to keep the straw hats the good guys.
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You clearly can't

Your comment about the "fake W" indicates you don't actually think Luffy will beat kaido.
Yes all luffy getting is a fake w
Kaido will get back up. And be a dragon above the Flower Capital ryuma will do the rest.
 
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Indigo

#52
Luffy is the only one who can defeat kaido

meaning for ZKK to happen, either:
  1. Luffy won't defeat kaido
  2. Zoro will kill a defeated kaido
#1 would be shit writing and so we can be assured it won't happen. #2 won't happen because
  1. Zoro has a time limit do to the medication. There's absolutely no reason for him to power through all that pain just to kill a defeated kaido.
  2. Killing a person who is already defeated is generally, a dishonorable thing to do and Oda wants to keep the straw hats the good guys.
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You clearly can't

Your comment about the "fake W" indicates you don't actually think Luffy will beat kaido.
Zoro will kill Kaido the same way he defeated Captain Morgan in his introduction arc, it won't be "dishonorable" because he will be helping Luffy

:goyea:
 
#54
As I said before, Kaido will not accept his defeat against Luffy (foreshadowed when Kaido "killed" Kinemon, talking about very few accepting defeat when it comes), both will be out of haki and everyone will be present there. Kaido will try to flee/attack the flower capital and the Grandmaster will perform ZKK. Then Zoro can rest in the next arc.

:catsure:
 
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Indigo

#55
As I said before, Kaido will not accept his defeat against Luffy (foreshadowed when Kaido "killed" Kinemon, talking about very few accepting defeat when it comes), both will be out of haki and everyone will be present there. Kaido will try to flee/attack the flower capital and the Grandmaster will perform ZKK. Then Zoro can rest in the next arc.

:catsure:
I think Zoro will use his fucked up physical form state to train his mind and CoC usage in the next arc.
 
#57
There are two scenarios for zkk
Zoro kill a non defeated kaido- can’t happen since this is luffy piece
Or zoro kill a defeated kaido- dishonorable
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#58
There's only one rather consistent scenario in which ZKK doesn't happen and that is Teach stealing the kill. But that would look extremely contrived by Oda, any other scenario such as Zoro not being convinced anymore would be outright ridiculous also because Kaido should prefer to reach what he labeled as perfection rather than preferring life imprisonment.
 
#60
As I said before, Kaido will not accept his defeat against Luffy (foreshadowed when Kaido "killed" Kinemon, talking about very few accepting defeat when it comes), both will be out of haki and everyone will be present there. Kaido will try to flee/attack the flower capital and the Grandmaster will perform ZKK. Then Zoro can rest in the next arc.

:catsure:
Ah I see you have regained your belief in ZKK :finally:
 
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