Future Events If ZKK doesn't happen then

[Finalbeta]

You actually asked why Zoro would risk death to fulfill his objective?

If there's a man who showed the balls many time to do that it was Zoro.

The most blatant time was for "Nothing Happened" or recently tackling that beastly Hakai. Perhaps he had other moments of that kind during his 2 years training and lost his eye.

 

[Adamxero]

Calling it shameful does not make it shameful when you do not support it with proofs.

And are you going to argue, after the gauntlet Kaido went through, that Luffy's victory remains a solo effort?

Also, again, having a Yonko slayer works for Luffy is a prestige, not a shame.

It's a shame when a secondary main character outshines the actual main character. It may seem like a prestige to the Zoro lovers on this forum but to everyone else it's not.

 

[The White Crane]

It's a shame when a secondary main character outshines the actual main character. It may seem like a prestige to the Zoro lovers on this forum but to everyone else it's not.

Zoro's involvement with the Yonkos ends with killing Kaido.

Luffy will still prove himself against Shanks and Teech to become PK.

Killing Kaido will never outshine becoming PK.

 

[Adamxero]

Zoro's involvement with the Yonkos ends with killing Kaido.

Luffy will still prove himself against Shanks and Teech to become PK.

Killing Kaido will never outshine becoming PK.

Luffy wants to beat all the Yonko. Meaning Kaido, Shanks, Blackbeard and Big Meme.

Zoro being 'allowed' this one makes no sense.

Regardless Zoro will not leave Wano with a greater reputation than Luffy and killing Kaido would do that and you know it would which is why you're arguing for it.

So when you look at it logically either Zoro leaves Wano with a greater reputation than his captain and strongest in the crew or...he beats King who is also notorious for being Kaido's second strongest and leaves Wano as a legit YC1 power level with the reputation of defeating King which makes more sense to the hierarchy of the crew.

 

[HA001]

Luffy wants to beat all the Yonko. Meaning Kaido, Shanks, Blackbeard and Big Meme.

Zoro being 'allowed' this one makes no sense.

Regardless Zoro will not leave Wano with a greater reputation than Luffy and killing Kaido would do that and you know it would which is why you're arguing for it.

So when you look at it logically either Zoro leaves Wano with a greater reputation than his captain and strongest in the crew or...he beats King who is also notorious for being Kaido's second strongest and leaves Wano as a legit YC1 power level with the reputation of defeating King which makes more sense to the hierarchy of the crew.

Why was he happy to let meme be poisoned by capone then ?

 

[The White Crane]

Luffy wants to beat all the Yonko. Meaning Kaido, Shanks, Blackbeard and Big Meme.

Zoro being 'allowed' this one makes no sense.

Regardless Zoro will not leave Wano with a greater reputation than Luffy and killing Kaido would do that and you know it would which is why you're arguing for it.

So when you look at it logically either Zoro leaves Wano with a greater reputation than his captain and strongest in the crew or...he beats King who is also notorious for being Kaido's second strongest and leaves Wano as a legit YC1 power level with the reputation of defeating King which makes more sense to the hierarchy of the crew.

Er, Zoro delivering a coup de grace to Kaido is not gonna outshine Luffy defeating Kaido, dude.

 

[Adamxero]

Why was he happy to let meme be poisoned by capone then ?

Because his goal was to get Sanji back that arc. When he seen the poison didn't work he even said once 'I' deal with Kaido you're next right to Big Mom.
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Er, Zoro delivering a coup de grace to Kaido is not gonna outshine Luffy defeating Kaido, dude.

Explain how?

Either Luffy defeats Kaido and Kaido gets up and still causes destruction and Luffy is unable to stop him meaning Luffy never really defeated him which then in your headcanon I guess you see Zoro killing Kaido.

What do you think people will remember? Luffy beating Kaido temporarily or Zoro beheading him above the flower capital?

You don't see it as undermining Luffy's win because you don't care and anything that advances Zoro prestige comes first despite the story always showing Luffy outshining all his crewmates.

Unless you can bring forward a logical reason how Zoro killing Kaido can occur without out shining Luffy's victory over him I don't see it happening.

 

[The White Crane]

The objective in question is utterly meaningless

If we assume Luffy will defeat kaido, like has been said over a million times(including by zoro himself), then why does Zoro specifically need to kill kaido? At that point almost anyone with the necessary haki/internal damage techniques could do it.

Zoro would effectively be throwing away his life for nothing

Zoro himself said he already threw away his life when he set upon his journey. And if anybody with a decent Ryou could do it, why not let Zoro be the one to do it?

Explain how?

Either Luffy defeats Kaido and Kaido gets up and still causes destruction and Luffy is unable to stop him meaning Luffy never really defeated him which then in your headcanon I guess you see Zoro killing Kaido.

What do you think people will remember? Luffy beating Kaido temporarily or Zoro beheading him above the flower capital?

You don't see it as undermining Luffy's win because you don't care and anything that advances Zoro prestige comes first despite the story always showing Luffy outshining all his crewmates.

Unless you can bring forward a logical reason how Zoro killing Kaido can occur without out shining Luffy's victory over him I don't see it happening.

As so many people said, Kaido's reputation is built on his 1 vs 1 wins and being unkillable.

Luffy defeating Kaido 1 vs 1 = ZKK.

Neither one overshadows the other.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Luffy wants to beat all the Yonko. Meaning Kaido, Shanks, Blackbeard and Big Meme.

Luffy also wants to beat all the admirals do you believe that puffy will defeat all the Admirals 1v1 aswell

 

[Adamxero]

Luffy also wants to beat all the admirals do you believe that puffy will defeat all the Admirals 1v1 aswell

Never has he said he'll beat all the Admirals this here is using a panel out of context. He said he'd never run away from one.

luffy actually did say he intended to beat all Yonko on PH

If you're going to use panels to discredit something at least know the context.

 

[HA001]

Never has he said he'll beat all the Admirals this here is using a panel out of context. He said he'd never run away from one.

luffy actually did say he intended to beat all Yonko on PH

If you're going to use panels to discredit something at least know the context.

He literally says he can't be pirate king if he doesn't BEAT each and every yonko and Admiral. Wtf are you on about.

 

[Adamxero]

He literally says he can't be pirate king if he doesn't BEAT each and every yonko and Admiral. Wtf are you on about.

I remember the official translation being something why should I run away meaning if they came at him he wouldn't run away from a fight.

I could be remembering this wrong like.

Regardless it doesn't change my original point of Luffy saying he wanted to defeat all of the Yonko and if Zoro kills one then he hasn't defeated him.

 

[Finalbeta]

I wonder if Luffy will ever beat Shanks. Perhaps they will have a friendly sparring and Luffy will win but it looks odd to me expecially since once Kaido and BM are defeated Teach may wish to take out Shanks in order to become the undisputed ruler of the New World when it comes to actual established yonko.

 

[Adamxero]

I wonder if Luffy will ever beat Shanks. Perhaps they will have a friendly sparring and Luffy will win but it looks odd to me expecially since once Kaido and BM are defeated Teach may wish to take out Shanks in order to become the undisputed ruler of the New World when it comes to actual established yonko.

I can see that and I'd see Luffy beating Shanks by beating Blackbeard whom Shanks could not beat.

I have the same thought of Zoro surpassing Mihawk being killed by Shiryu but I have no doubt it's an unpopular opinion here.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

I can see that and I'd see Luffy beating Shanks by beating Blackbeard whom Shanks could not beat.

I have the same thought of Zoro surpassing Mihawk being killed by Shiryu but I have no doubt it's an unpopular opinion here.

It’s not an unpopular opinion just retarded

I remember the official translation being something why should I run away meaning if they came at him he wouldn't run away from a fight.

I could be remembering this wrong like.

Regardless it doesn't change my original point of Luffy saying he wanted to defeat all of the Yonko and if Zoro kills one then he hasn't defeated him.

the picture i posted was the official translation

 

[Adamxero]

It’s not an unpopular opinion just retarded

How boring...

Zoro wants to be WSS not Mihawk beater. If someone was to beat Mihawk before Zoro then naturally Zoro's target would change. Not saying it would happen but that's the case.

Can't see a scenario where the story leads for a 1 v 1 between Zoro and Mihawk personally the two have gained a master and student relationship which takes the sting out of any confrontation again personally.

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro is most likely going to become the World's Strongest like Ryuma seemingly was many centuries ago. I doubt Oda would not let that happen considering how compelling the portrayal has been looking so far.