General & Others If Zoro and Sanji get pushed to high/extreme diff by a Tobi Roppo..

#21
0 Possibility, there would literally be no character progression if that happened.

I will always go Zoro vs King, Sanji vs Queen.

2nd: There is a 0 percent chance that Zoro will fight an opponent weaker than the scabbards as zoro is stronger than all of them
There’s nothing suggesting whether or not Who’s Who, Sasaki, and Drake are weaker than Denjiro, Asura Doji, or Inu/Neku with the hype they have gotten.
 
#22
sanji is stronger then all of them why u didnt mention him
Do I think he is? IMO I dont, hence he has the raid suit, but going from no 1v1 in his own arc to Queen, will happen, which idk how oda will make sanji that strong but it is how every arc plays out is that he'll somehow fight the 3rd strongest oppoent. There's 0 definitive proof he's stronger, at least with Zoro him taming enma proved he is stronger.
 

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#23
Do I think he is? IMO I dont, hence he has the raid suit, but going from no 1v1 in his own arc to Queen, will happen, which idk how oda will make sanji that strong but it is how every arc plays out is that he'll somehow fight the 3rd strongest oppoent. There's 0 definitive proof he's stronger, at least with Zoro him taming enma proved he is stronger.
without enma zoro will be weaker
 
#24
There’s nothing suggesting whether or not Who’s Who, Sasaki, and Drake are weaker than Denjiro, Asura Doji, or Inu/Neku with the hype they have gotten.
Im going with Who's Who vs Denjiro and Sasaki vs Ashura. I think either Killer or Jimbe will face Jack, i dont think there'll be a revenge match up. i Think they will end up taking on a Number together
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without enma zoro will be weaker
2 completely differnt things, one requires training to master and the other doesnt.
 
#25
Do I think he is? IMO I dont, hence he has the raid suit, but going from no 1v1 in his own arc to Queen, will happen, which idk how oda will make sanji that strong but it is how every arc plays out is that he'll somehow fight the 3rd strongest oppoent. There's 0 definitive proof he's stronger, at least with Zoro him taming enma proved he is stronger.
So now, Zoro is automatically on YC1 level now because of Enma? The Raid Suit enhanced all of Sanji’s stats, he’s objectively stronger than he was before.
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Im going with Who's Who vs Denjiro and Sasaki vs Ashura. I think either Killer or Jimbe will face Jack, i dont think there'll be a revenge match up. i Think they will end up taking on a Number together
Those could be solid matchups (except for Killer and Jack), but still not sold on the new monster trio fighting the calamities (without help that is)
 
#26
So now, Zoro is automatically on YC1 level now because of Enma? The Raid Suit enhanced all of Sanji’s stats, he’s objectively stronger than he was before.
I think Zoro is YC2 level, we've never seen him use his trump card so we really dont know how strong his CoA truly is. How I think the fight will play out will be similar to how it was vs Daz and Kaku, losing most the fight then awakens a power at the last part and wins.

Sanji needs the raidsuit because his body is much weaker physically and wont be able to beat high tier opponents without it.
 
#27
I'm kinda already reaching that point when it comes to the series as unfortunate as that is lol. Like it's just become more and more apparent that Oda does not give a slight fuck when it comes to actual power scaling in this series and would rather pay attention to the plot.

If this were to actually happen though I would be heavily disappointed and it would honestly make Zoro eventually reaching his dream specifically way more unbelievable since his track record is garbage.
 
#28
I would be disappointed.

Like right now it’s looking like Sanji’s main fight in Wano is gonna be P1 and to go from Sanji vs Queen to Sanji vs P1 it is a bit of a let down.

Zoro might fight Who’s who and that’ll be OKAY, is it as hype as him fighting King ? No but It is what it is.

Unless the F6 are Commander level these fights are gonna be really underwhelming in my opinion.
 
#29
I would be disappointed.

Like right now it’s looking like Sanji’s main fight in Wano is gonna be P1 and to go from Sanji vs Queen to Sanji vs P1 it is a bit of a let down.

Zoro might fight Who’s who and that’ll be OKAY, is it as hype as him fighting King ? No but It is what it is.

Unless the F6 are Commander level these fights are gonna be really underwhelming in my opinion.
Based off who's who leaving and looking for yamato instead of fighting Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Killer, I believe he is going to run into Denjiro
 
#32
Based off who's who leaving and looking for yamato instead of fighting Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Killer, I believe he is going to run into Denjiro

Yeah I thought Who’s who was gonna fight Denjiro too but now that King is probably gonna fight Marco Whos who is the only realistic fight left for Zoro, Don’t you think ?
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it would be disappointing but not surprising (particularly for sanji)..im still optimistic this arc will eventually deliver on some level tho
Man if Sanji’s fight this arc is P1 I’d be so disappointed.
 
#36
Yeah I thought Who’s who was gonna fight Denjiro too but now that King is probably gonna fight Marco Whos who is the only realistic fight left for Zoro, Don’t you think ?
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Man if Sanji’s fight this arc is P1 I’d be so disappointed.
Personally I think Marco will be a supporting cast and assist in the fight vs Kaido's army, I believe who's who's is still going to run into Denjiro and Zoro will either then fight King or he will end up fighting Yamato if he's a swordsman, i think Oda is going to highlight WorstGen in this fight and popularize them after wano
 
#37
I already gave up on Power scaling, i dont take it half as serious i used to. Oda himself don't care much about it and hella inconsistent and i think it will get more messier once Kaidou is down.
I sometime wank/downplay characters if bored or get into discussions, bt not much as i used to once.

Tho, Z n S are fighting King n Queen, tho with help i feel. Who who n Sasaki are for SNs like Drake, Killer, Hawkins or RSs.
 
#40
There are a few problems with the way people complain about power scaling. First, they don't take into account story or context; so when you have Apoo beating on Luffy... that isn't Oda drawing an isolated 1v1 on a random island (as most vs debates are discussed), that is Oda trying to introduce a supernova in a situation where the beast pirates outnumber Luffy by 10,000 gifters.

Also when people scale characters based on portrayal... Oda doesn't care if some weeb calculated Black Maria can destroy half an island in one attack. He will use the power scaling he has intended for her and show it to us through feats. You can't exactly call him a hack for that.

So no I wouldn't give up power scaling, but would be a nice wake up call to change the way you power scale one piece. Using vague terms like 'yc1/2/3, veteran level, supernova level' etc need to disappear for instance.
 
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