General & Others If Zoro and Sanji get pushed to high/extreme diff by a Tobi Roppo..

#41
And it’s their main fight for Wano, would you give up on powerscaling?
This would actually be nice to be honest. Like an extreme diff fight is one where you fight an opponent who you are roughly equal to. The existence of Drake is proof that the flying six are in at the same level with people like Zoro and Sanji.
All I know is Sanji fans would be fine with it but the Z boyz would be salty as fuck after all the zolo YC1 is nonsense :myman:
 
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#43
This would actually be nice to be honest. Like an extreme diff fight is one where you fight an opponent who you are roughly equal to. The existence of Drake is proof that the flying six are in at the same level with people like Zoro and Sanji.
All I know is Sanji fans would be fine with it but the Z boyz would be salty as fuck after all the zolo YC1 is nonsense :myman:
Huh! Sanji fans would be fine with it?!! They were putting Sanji up against King till Marco showed up.

If Who's Who is equal or near equal to King/Queen/Jack, then it won't be an issue. Who's Who will be in worshipped to high heavens by us (Zoro fans) and denigrated by rest. If Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, then we would be salty. Similar is true for Sanji fans.

Currently, the consensus in Zoro fandom is that Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, hence they refuse to acknowledge Who's Who vs. Zoro as the main Zoro fight.

But I got the feeling that Oda will never show Who's Who's power-level in relation to the Calamities. So, if Zoro vs. Who's Who end up being the main Zoro fight for the arc, there will be blood spilt between Zoro and Anti-Zoro faction.

Guess what?! Same is true for Sanji and Anti-Sanji faction. Only three factions will end up as winners if Who's Who end up being Zoro's main fight:
  1. Luffy faction
  2. Kid faction
  3. Law faction
But...all things considered, Zoro vs. Who's Who being Zoro's main fight is a strong possibility right now, even if rest of the Zoro fandom doesn't agree. Fortunately, up to Ch. 981, Zoro remains a main player along with Luffy and Kid. So, this is probably not the time for Anti-Zoro faction to be excited.
 
#46
All-Stars (and are not scared of them), meaning that they are probably, relatively, around the same strength as Jack/Queen/King (I'm talking about BROAD scope, compared to other members
This is impossible. Theres no other Yonkou crew that has such a dynamic so why would kaido crew have it.

That's like claiming perospero or oven are as strong as cracker

You're going to say "No Persopero and oven have never wanted to be sweet generals" but then since when does WANTING a promotion equal to BEING WORTH IT.

Remember Hanyabaal wanted Magellan's position and wasn't scared of him and actively kept sabbotaging Magellan to get him fired and in the end he actually got Magellan's job. AND HANYABAAL REMAINS FODDER TO MAGELLAN.

The mere concept that Who's Who and Sasaki are comparable to King and Queen means Kaido's crew is definitively the strongest pirate cree in the world. WHICH IS NOT TRUE
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#49
Huh! Sanji fans would be fine with it?!! They were putting Sanji up against King till Marco showed up.

If Who's Who is equal or near equal to King/Queen/Jack, then it won't be an issue. Who's Who will be in worshipped to high heavens by us (Zoro fans) and denigrated by rest. If Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, then we would be salty. Similar is true for Sanji fans.

Currently, the consensus in Zoro fandom is that Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, hence they refuse to acknowledge Who's Who vs. Zoro as the main Zoro fight.

But I got the feeling that Oda will never show Who's Who's power-level in relation to the Calamities. So, if Zoro vs. Who's Who end up being the main Zoro fight for the arc, there will be blood spilt between Zoro and Anti-Zoro faction.

Guess what?! Same is true for Sanji and Anti-Sanji faction. Only three factions will end up as winners if Who's Who end up being Zoro's main fight:
  1. Luffy faction
  2. Kid faction
  3. Law faction
But...all things considered, Zoro vs. Who's Who being Zoro's main fight is a strong possibility right now, even if rest of the Zoro fandom doesn't agree. Fortunately, up to Ch. 981, Zoro remains a main player along with Luffy and Kid. So, this is probably not the time for Anti-Zoro faction to be excited.
Sanji fans only did it to troll zoro fans.
 
#50
So if zoro and sanji only feat Tobi roppo, it's still fine.
No Oda cares about power scaling. An example is

Zoro gets Enma and says "Once I train with this, I will be MUCH STRONGER"

Oda has just established that the Zoro who cut mountains and destroyed Hawkin's strawman and beat killer IS MUCH WEAKER than the current Zoro

That's power scaling directly from Oda

And this Zoro is supposed to fight Who's who as his main opponent? The Zoro who is MUCH STRONGER than The mountain cutting Zoro is gonna fight Who's who to extreme diff?
 
#52
Huh! Sanji fans would be fine with it?!! They were putting Sanji up against King till Marco showed up.

If Who's Who is equal or near equal to King/Queen/Jack, then it won't be an issue. Who's Who will be in worshipped to high heavens by us (Zoro fans) and denigrated by rest. If Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, then we would be salty. Similar is true for Sanji fans.

Currently, the consensus in Zoro fandom is that Who's Who is decidedly weaker than King/Queen/Jack, hence they refuse to acknowledge Who's Who vs. Zoro as the main Zoro fight.

But I got the feeling that Oda will never show Who's Who's power-level in relation to the Calamities. So, if Zoro vs. Who's Who end up being the main Zoro fight for the arc, there will be blood spilt between Zoro and Anti-Zoro faction.

Guess what?! Same is true for Sanji and Anti-Sanji faction. Only three factions will end up as winners if Who's Who end up being Zoro's main fight:
  1. Luffy faction
  2. Kid faction
  3. Law faction
But...all things considered, Zoro vs. Who's Who being Zoro's main fight is a strong possibility right now, even if rest of the Zoro fandom doesn't agree. Fortunately, up to Ch. 981, Zoro remains a main player along with Luffy and Kid. So, this is probably not the time for Anti-Zoro faction to be excited.
I heard a theory from Greg that include 2 different areas where they ll finish all the fight. The battle starts in Onigashima but it will end in Wano. In this theory Greg state that some epic fight between Zoro and King will happen to the top of Mount Fuji which will have a strong payoff for all the saga.

I dont see any progression for the story (which Oda builds all One Piece) and for Zoro if he has to face just WhoWho in Onigashima. He has to be shown by the citizen of Wano so that they ll remember is legacy.

Dressrosa legacy went to Usop,Luffy!
Wano legacy could go to Zoro,Luffy right? They both spent a lot time by bounding with Wano people, none of the other character aka other strawhat, worstegeneration and white bear pirate have that thing. So this 2 have to have an epic climax !! Oda build all the story like this where bonds matter way more than headcanon fans idea about powerscaling
 
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#53
the F6 are Commander level
This is impossible. No other Yonkou crew has this dynamic so unless kaido’s crew is literally a tier above every other Yonkou crew, this is impossible
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sanji vs king or marco vs king with every chapter zoro vs king become less and less possible
But Zoro is stronger than Sanji, he's supposed to fight stronger opponents.

And Zoro is a main character and Marco is not. Why would Marco get an extended 1v1 and yet he's not a main character. You think Oda has time for such things
 
#55
This would actually be nice to be honest. Like an extreme diff fight is one where you fight an opponent who you are roughly equal to. The existence of Drake is proof that the flying six are in at the same level with people like Zoro and Sanji.
All I know is Sanji fans would be fine with it but the Z boyz would be salty as fuck after all the zolo YC1 is nonsense :myman:
You're saying the flying six are on The same level as Zoro? So why would this be an interesting fight then?

Like since when is it interesting to see people on the same level fighting? Like was Zoro on daz bones level when they started fighting? Was luffy on Lucci's level?

I thought this is shonen where the main appeal is that weaker guys fight stronger guys and the weaker guys BECOME STRONGER throughout the fight because of will power and friendship and shit and then get strong enough to win.

Since when are opponents supposed to be on the same level for the fight to be good? Isn't it usually the opposite in fact?
 
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Formerly Seth

#57
Then Oda needs to reconsider his manga and completely remove the Haki system.
His power scaling is so inconsistent that I want to throw up.
Let's make Luffy beat everyone via the power of friendship and make Zoro fight only fodder swordsmen and Sanji only cook.

WE NEED ZORO AND SANJI TO BEAT F'ING COMMANDERS OR LUFFY IS NOT A PK MATERIAL FFS.
 
#59
Then Oda needs to reconsider his manga and completely remove the Haki system.
His power scaling is so inconsistent that I want to throw up.
Let's make Luffy beat everyone via the power of friendship and make Zoro fight only fodder swordsmen and Sanji only cook.

WE NEED ZORO AND SANJI TO BEAT F'ING COMMANDERS OR LUFFY IS NOT A PK MATERIAL FFS.
You know what? I think after 9 years of powerscalling headcanon for the new world a lot fans have such strong power construction that for them is impossible that any of the strawhat can surpass a Commander. Even if the plot (and story demand that) because Oda want to finish One Piece as soon as possible. I ll prepare some :ihaha:and enjoy each chapter.

2 weeks ago luffy and Zoro were trashed cuz for them they took L because Apoo landed some attacks which both tanked without any complication and said that Kidd had to step in to save them...., Today chapter happen to shut up this guys... Same will happen for all the finals fight.
 
#60
Completely fine if Zoro and Sanji face Flying six specially Who's who and Sasaki since Oda is already hyping them up to be close to commander level (at least YC 3) so its honestly its not something worth getting upset about.After they beat the flying six then they join in the final battle against Kaido.

Just don't get how people are so confident that Zoro can beat King then have enough energy to help in the final fight when Luffy who just beat a 1st commander struggled to even move after the fight, there is a limit to how much you can mindlessly fanboy .
 
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